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FWR split continued

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RebeccaMumsnet · 29/06/2012 17:11

We have decided to start a new thread about this as the other thread was near capacity and taking a while to load.

Here is Justine's post from earlier on

We can give a Radical Feminism topic a go if that's what people want and see if it works. Obviously we need to be crystal clear that no one is obliged to post in one particular place and no one should feel excluded from any topic but we could test it out, and see if it helps resolve tensions. We'll do that in the next few days.

There are a couple of other things to think about as well.

First, those who come onto FWR to derail and inflame. We acknowledge that we have been too slow in the past to spot these posters for what they were. We're sorry about that and hope we're a lot quicker at dealing with them now. We're all for opinions but we do draw the line at posters whose only obvious intent is to goad.

And secondly, this idea that FWR can be an unwelcoming place to those who aren't following the 'party line'. Judging by posts on recent threads and by our inbox this is a view of a significant number of Mumsnetters and obviously that's not a healthy situation. Mumsnet is a place for discussion and for diverse opinion and it's the exchange of ideas and tolerance of differing opinions that makes it the board it is.

We do hope threads like this help to clear the air a bit and remind everyone that, whatever the differences of opinion, the FWR board will only ever be the stimulating, thought-provoking, enriching place we'd all like it to be if people feel that they can express themselves without being jumped on.

Please do continue to let us know your thoughts.

OP posts:
garlicbutt · 30/06/2012 16:50

Shock Good grief, Didi, does it really say that??!

Surely he exploits it if he hurts her? Otherwise, it's safe consensual sex. Confused

Definitely best I stay away from those threads!

Didireallydoit · 30/06/2012 16:50

Bah sorry hit post in Error.

But neither is a man demanding tea on the table (or a woman) demanding anything from anyone is wrOng.

Himalaya · 30/06/2012 16:50

This is why I think splitting the board won't work - whatever the categories. This board is called "site stuff" people Grin

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 30/06/2012 16:51

Yes, some feminist ideas are really hard to think about. Unpicking our choices can be an uncomfortable process. I frequently find myself having an immediately defensive response to an idea but if I get past that, I can usually see the points being made.

Didireallydoit · 30/06/2012 16:52

Yes garlic that's a direct post.

Dittany - I am not upset - I have been rather enjoying the debate tbh.

Didireallydoit · 30/06/2012 16:54

I can and I can't pubes because speaking from a personal point of view only - id have undertaken whatever steps necessary to carry a baby, so for me - I and only I am responsible for anything pregnancy "inflicts" on mr.

Didireallydoit · 30/06/2012 16:54

Sorry - direct quote not post.

dittany · 30/06/2012 16:57

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HotheadPaisan · 30/06/2012 16:58

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Alameda · 30/06/2012 17:03

anyway as someone else said it doesn't really matter what sort of feminism it is as long as there is some feminism in there - though I suspect this is what some object to, not the brand but the fact that anyone dares to critique anything from a welfare of women stance

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/06/2012 17:44

No - you don't need PIV or a clinic to concieve - but why complicate the natural process? After all, it's not just about delivering the semen to the cervix, iirc from biology, doesn't intercourse and sexual arousal play a positive part in making the conditions more favourable to conception?

Alameda · 30/06/2012 17:56

well some people don't like schlong do they, but prefer minge, so they're not going to conceive in the retro way

Aboutlastnight · 30/06/2012 18:05

Gosh I hope I remember to say the right thing in the right section...

What's PIV? Is it Pain in Vagina?

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:08

I don't like the acronym because it makes women passive objects.

I like VGRP as it puts the woman in charge of decisions about her own body and what she chooses to do with it.

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 18:10

PIV is penis in vagina

I have no idea what VGRP

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:12

Vagina Gracefully Receives Penis

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 18:13

Are you...wait...is this some sort of a JOKE?

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:15

Nope.

Why can't it be female-centric?

Why have it described as the male acting on the female?

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 18:20

It was more the gracefully bit than the female-centric bit.

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:21

Well bearing in mind it can be damaging and risky, I think it is quite an act of grace.

Alameda · 30/06/2012 18:21

minge engulfs schlong and squeezes the life out of it

is bit long though

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:22

And what admirable muscles would be required, like the old Singapore Grip.

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:23

But it is a serious point, and has a place amongst all the semantics discussion. Perception is very language dependent.

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 18:24

I like the term engulf.

I think my vagina is more of an engulfer. There's nothing graceful about her, no way.

Hullygully · 30/06/2012 18:25

good lord

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