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Troll-hunting and subsequent Thread-ruining

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oneofsuesylvesterscheerios · 07/04/2012 16:42

Yes, in some ways this is a thread about a thread, although its actually an interesting general point too. Plus, I don't want to carry on the discussion on the actual thread as it would be too damaging and would take it off in a completely different direction.

So... If a poster broke the rules and shouted troll, and then they were chastised (rightly) and the post removed, unless the offending surrounding comments reacting to the troll-hunt are removed too, the damage has been done surely?

We assume when someone posts regarding a personal trauma that they are telling the truth (well I hope we do) and if we suspect anything, we surely just ignore these days: we know the MN guidelines, etc.

And we know that certain situations in life happen to a lot of people (bereavement, loss, break-ups, etc). So when someone goes through a horrible time, the beauty of MN is that we don't just get sympathy and unmumsnetty hugs; we get empathy from folk who have been there themselves. We also often get bloody good advice, practical and emotional.

A thread that contains an accusation of troll-hunting is blindingly obvious even when the offending poster's comments have been removed. And thus, the damage is done.

When my dad died last I had some fantastic support from mnetters who'd suffered the loss of a parent and knew how 'rootless' it can make you. I'd have been confused and beyond upset if anyone had questioned my grief online. It doesn't matter how many positive posters there are on thread; just one snarky comment and the wave of a pitchfork is enough to send the OP packing, at a time when they might need the 'anonymous' support of MN most.

So, what I'm asking MN Towers is: if troll-hunting is banned, and it's fully acknowledged how damaging this could be on a thread that offers support to lots of people, often not just the OP, shouldn't all references and posts regarding an accusation be completely removed so the thread can remain intact and totally focused on the thread subject? Otherwise, it seems pointless.

OP posts:
breadbiscuit · 08/04/2012 22:34

Do you now feel a bit sorry for the OP on that other thread?

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:35

No he doesn't have a bib, Dulling. He's not a poodle either, just a vair small mutanty thing that is v luffed.

S'a burden though, all the luffz. Terrible price to pay for one's beauty. Old Samanfa had a point.

SuePurblybiltFromChocolate · 08/04/2012 22:36

Whaaaaaaat?

2ombie5layer · 08/04/2012 22:36

Obviously I know we're aware of the rules of just reporting etc. But how many posts do people report? Im worried of over reporting even though Ive only ever reported once.

breadbiscuit · 08/04/2012 22:36

Do you know what made you call troll on that thread, when you never usually do it?

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:36

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat what?

No I don't bread. Not at all.

everlong · 08/04/2012 22:37

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LadyBeagleEyes · 08/04/2012 22:37

Why would she feel sorry for the op if she thinks it's made up though?

SuePurblybiltFromChocolate · 08/04/2012 22:37

Whaaaaaaaat? to breadbiscuit's Piers Morgan impression.

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:38

Oh yes, yes I do. But I'm not going to say because it's sort of like a guidebook for trolling, as was said oop thread.

breadbiscuit · 08/04/2012 22:38

But doesn't the fact that the thread is still standing mean that MNHQ have checked it out, and the OP is not a troll? So is a genuine poster, in genuine distress, who has been hounded off MN?

SuePurblybiltFromChocolate · 08/04/2012 22:40

It means the OP wasn't a known troll, presumably. MNHQ can hardly look through the laptop screen and see is she actually what she says she is - anymore than they can see if I am really a size ten and fabulous.

It doesn't follow that every thread left standing is genuine.

PinotCantDoEasterNamesSoGaveUp · 08/04/2012 22:41

How can HQ know if it's definitely not a troll though? Just that the IP address hasn't previously been used for trolling.

Doesn't prove owt. You have to trust your own judgement.

Or just ignore the Relationships board like wot I do :)

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:42

No bread not at all. It just means, as I explained above, that as it's their only post, they have nothing to refer to. Not if the IP address doesn't match up to previous trolls.

And hounded off is a bit strong. One post, with 2 or 3 follow ups stating why I said it is not hounding off. I agree that in hindsight I shouldn't have posted, but that doesn't mean that I change my mind.

LadyBeagleEyes · 08/04/2012 22:43

I think it's time you backed out of this thread slowly Stratters.Confused

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:44

I think Matthew probably has enough for his next show by now. [bugrin]

nenevomito · 08/04/2012 22:45

Some threads left standing are left due to lack of proof rather than veracity.

(p.s. Just to be clear I posted earlier on the thread using what has to be my shortest lived new nn ever. It was like wearing knickers a size too small, I tell you. It did the job, but it punished me in unexpected ways so am back to being me IYSWIM.... As you were Grin)

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:46

PMSL @ baby, bit constrictive was it? [bugrin]

SarahStrattonsEasterName · 08/04/2012 22:46

Bedtime for me. Us Incomparable Beauties need to take care of ourselves.

LadyBeagleEyes · 08/04/2012 22:48

I reported a thread this morning that is still there.
I know I wasn't the only one to report, but sometimes there is nothing MN can do particularly if the poster looks 'vulnerable'.

BeerChicksPotter · 08/04/2012 22:49

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nenevomito · 08/04/2012 22:52

Indeed stratters.

This nn is a pair of pure cotton bottom huggers in comparison.

nenevomito · 08/04/2012 22:54

Beerchicks - thats what I meant.

Where there's not enough proof, threads get the benefit of the doubt.

PinotCantDoEasterNamesSoGaveUp · 08/04/2012 22:59

I decided when I turned 30 that never again would I wear uncomfortable knickers. I like a mini brief from Marksies with a cotton gusset. So there.

BeerChicksPotter · 08/04/2012 23:00

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