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what the actual is that facebook like button doing there?

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CarolCervix · 15/12/2011 16:42

has it always been there? or has it moved? and does that mean if someone 'likes' that thread it will be posted to their fb page?

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MistleTobyLeWolef · 16/12/2011 10:52

Brilliant. When you run out of ideas for discussion, bust out the personal insults.

ruddynorah · 16/12/2011 10:52

It's a business.

Winetimeisfinetime · 16/12/2011 10:53

Can anyone explain to the technically inept how MN can link to your FB page. Is it only possible if the email address is the same for both MN and FB ? If not how does it make the link ?

Trills · 16/12/2011 10:54

It doesn't matter what your email address is.

If you are logged into Facebook then any website with a Facebook button can post to your wall if you click the button.

wannaBe · 16/12/2011 10:55

well anyone who thinks they're posting here anonimously is stupid. The internet is not anonimous. Once you post your location/number of children you have and add in a bit of personal information you become identifyable.

I've identified people I know from their posts on the internet. My mil once told me a story about her friend's daughter and issues she was having in her relationship and I instantly recognized it as a thread I'd read on mn (the woman doesn't really know me, but I am positive it's her). I've recognized people who have namechanged because invariably they post something that makes them identifyable or their writing style is distinctive. And just to balance the view, I've been recognized in a shop by someone who recognized me from what I've posted on here.

It is not down to mn or others to protect your privacy online - it is down to you. The addition of facebook isn't going to compromise your privacy at all, because your posts weren't private in the first place. And anyone clicking on a mn link from facebook is probably the kind of person that looks on mn already.

ruddynorah · 16/12/2011 10:55

You click the like button then on your fb page it will say 'x likes this' and shows a link to the thread with an mn thumbnail. Same as if you click like on a product on amazon or a news article in a paper etc. It doesn't say ooooooh look what I said about my SIL.

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 10:57

Sorry Trills, I had no idea that was the case. It's my post from 09.45am this morning, is that any better? or are there timezone issues too? Not sure how to link to a comment I'm afraid, I'll have a look.

wannaBe · 16/12/2011 10:58

sadly but you're not anonimous. If you genuinely believe you are then you are deluded.

Trills · 16/12/2011 10:59

I think the times are listed the same for everyone :)

If you go to "Customise" under where it says "Mumsnet Talk" at the top, you can chose to have 10, 25, 50, 100 or unlimited posts per page.

You can even (if you are weird) set the posts to have the most recent one at the top, instead of reading down like a book.

Winetimeisfinetime · 16/12/2011 11:00

OK , thanks Trills.

wannaBe · 16/12/2011 11:01

you may be anonimous to me because I don't know you. But if you're posting information that would make you identifyable should someone happen upon it via fb then you're not anonimous.

And iirc there was a post this thread to facebook a long time ago - it was removed at the same time as the twitter one.

And besides, there's still nothing to stop me from posting this link on to my facebook/twitter/anywhere else on the internet without needing a button to aid the process.

HippoPottyMouth · 16/12/2011 11:02

too much froth on this thread, so I have not read every post, but did anyone notice how on the finish page of Semper's survey there was a facebook like button? :)
88,903 people like surveymonkey on facebook!

oh and the previous facebook and twitter buttons are still there in that little frame that hovers over the page when you scroll down (on a PC) so it's still available to most people - this new button has not added any new functionality AT ALL

nappymaestro · 16/12/2011 11:06

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 11:06

Wannabe, as I said in my first reply to you. "I tend to agree however that the only way to guarantee that your most personal info never becomes widely known is not to post it on the internet, even anonymously. Technologies change, sites change." I agree that part of being aware of data sharing issues, which I try to be, is an awareness that potentially nothing is anonymous. Even if it is now, it may not be tomorrow, whether that results from the technology doing something unexpected or human detective work.

But this is not the same thing as saying that this Like button thing is nothing to worry or be concerned about because it's already all shit! Of course it is something to be concerned about. It is part of the process which potentially makes removal of anonymity more likely. This is part of the shit to be aware of.

I'm not sure we're actually disagreeing on much here, to be honest.

Osmiornica · 16/12/2011 11:07

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Thumbinnapuddingwitch · 16/12/2011 11:10

Time of post is always set at British time. For e.g. it is 22:10 here now, but it will post as being 11:10am.

notevenaChristmousie · 16/12/2011 11:11

Emphasis on the should someone happen upon it - the risk of that happening has just gone up, possibly making it too likely to risk it. Not that the risks are quantifiable (else we wouldn't need to be arguing) but for many this risk is perceived to now be too high.

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 11:12

Thanks, Trills

TysTheSeasonToBeJolly · 16/12/2011 11:15

I understand that it has not added a new functionality, but it is now easier to accidently like the thread if you are scrolling over it with your mouse.
Also everything Christmousie said in her last post makes sense.

gingerbreadhousecurl · 16/12/2011 11:21

This is a spectacularly BAD idea! Xmas Angry

I agree with previous posters who point out that sensitive posts do not only appear in the so-called sensitive threads. If someone divulges enough info in a series of posts on a thread that someone "likes" on facebook it may be possible of a third party to identify who they are. There is nothing that would stop them form then going on to MN and search the all the threads, including the sensitive ones, for that poster and then read them.

I think we all realise that MN is public but the vast number of posters on the vast number of posts does provide quite a lot of anonymity. I feel this is now compromised.

Remove, remove, remove!

wannaBe · 16/12/2011 11:24

yes but if you're not posting it to facebook then your facebook friends aren't going to "happen" upon it still, are they?

nappymaestro I'd imagine that someone who was not inclined to read an antenatal thread wouldn't be any more inclined to do so just because someone had "liked" it on facebook.

And while I don't post here under my rl name I generally also try to keep to the rule of thumb that I don't post stuff here that I wouldn't want someone in rl to read.

I actually think the false sense of anonimity creates a false sense of security, because in truth you don't know who is reading what about you.

As I've said I've recognized people from their posts on the internet, and they don't know that I know, iyswim. So your mil/dh/sister/the mum down the road you are slagging off might be reading your posts and you could have no idea.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 16/12/2011 11:39

WTAF?! I just clicked the 'Like' button to see what happens. Then logged in to my Facebook account and the post was there. How the fuck Mumsnet knows what my Facebook account is and who gave permission for the two to be linked?

MistleTobyLeWolef · 16/12/2011 11:41

Cookies, Drink. Your computer has stored your login details for FB and automatically remembered them to allow the 'like' to post on your FB wall.

But...y'know...no reason to be bothered or anything Hmm

notevenaChristmousie · 16/12/2011 11:44

But wannaBe I am that dozy sometimes. I sometimes post twice and mess up my smilies, so I'm more than capable of hitting the fb post.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 16/12/2011 11:51

Well, in an effort preserve at least a remnant of my anonymity on MN, I have deleted any personal info on my profile, including any photos.

I like to keep my various different social media identities separate and see no reason why I should allow MNHQ to compromise this. As was said ^^, it's not about privacy, it's about anonymity.

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