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what the actual is that facebook like button doing there?

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CarolCervix · 15/12/2011 16:42

has it always been there? or has it moved? and does that mean if someone 'likes' that thread it will be posted to their fb page?

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MistleTobyLeWolef · 16/12/2011 10:20

There are sensitive threads in all topics. It's fucking ridiculous to suggest that there aren't, or that in some topics anonymity is more important than in others.

Just get rid of the shitty button and make your money another way, MN.

nappymaestro · 16/12/2011 10:21

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redlac · 16/12/2011 10:24

but nappy non MN people can see it - all they have to do is google

AmandinePoulain · 16/12/2011 10:24

tobey I wasn't suggesting that some topics are more sensitive than others, I was just using conception as an example because it's relevant to me. I've seen some pretty sensitive stuff on aibu because sometimes people want a quick response. I agree than mnhq shouldn't be able to decide which topics are the most sensitive, because they all have the potential to be Angry

FrothingBeserker · 16/12/2011 10:24

Stupid - no, you might not. but the delay in response from MNHQ mans they can breeze in, cannot possibly be expected to answer all points and cherry pick the ones they deign to respond to - like the tickers one earlier.

I think the like button is here to stay - they knew a lot of posters would object, but did they canvass opinion? nope. just went right ahead. and it's not as though they don't know which topics are sensitive - to have conception included, or adoptions/fostering, fgs. once again, I expect we'll get 'oh, we just didn't think. We did start this from our front room, you know, and it's all snowballed, and we struggle to keep up, hahahahaha, and it's all taken us a bit by surprise' - might have been valid 5 years ago, but not really these days.

FellatioNelson · 16/12/2011 10:24

Maybe the answer should be that the OP of the thread gets a 'like' FB link option to click on when the thread is started. If people see the thread might get 'liked' and linked they can decline to post on it. It would be easier to not have it at all though.

nappymaestro · 16/12/2011 10:25

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lubeybaublely · 16/12/2011 10:26

Much ado about nothing.

MistleTobyLeWolef · 16/12/2011 10:29

tobey I wasn't suggesting that some topics are more sensitive than others, I was just using conception as an example because it's relevant to me. I've seen some pretty sensitive stuff on aibu because sometimes people want a quick response. I agree than mnhq shouldn't be able to decide which topics are the most sensitive, because they all have the potential to be

Oh, Amandine, I didn't mean you. I mean MNHQ. Sorry if you thought that!

wannaBe · 16/12/2011 10:31

sorry but I am pmsl at people namechanging/feeling as if their privacy has been invaded due to this button. What planet do you people live on?

Mn is a public forum with over 250000 members and over a million hits a day. Do people seriously believe that when you post here it is private? really? just exactly how is your username being linked to someone else's thread on facebook going to compromise your "privacy" any more than your username being exposed to the million people that might read your threads and follow the intimate details of your life unseen on a daily basis?

I don't like the button because I think it's tacky. Also, mn removed the twitter buttons from threads so I don't see why those have been removed yet there is a facebook one. if we have a facebook button can we have the tweet button back as well please? Wink

but ultimately anyone can copy and paste a link on to their fb wall or on to twitter without there needing to be a button to do so.

The internet is a public platform. if you don't want people to read your private business, then don't post about it on the internet - anywhere on the internet.

Mn is not responsible for people suddenly feeling they need to namechange/leave/stop posting, their own naivety is.

Get real people.

notevenaChristmousie · 16/12/2011 10:34

I also don't like it. I know this is the internet, and it's public, we are none of us stupid, but lots of people don't know I post here, and certainly not my user name. I've put stuff out there and I now feel very reluctant to share, which is a great shame, because I am NOT exaggerating when I say that at times MN has been a lifeline to me in the last horrendous year.

AmandinePoulain · 16/12/2011 10:35

Ok toby,. I will also apologise for spelling your name wrong Blush

notevenaChristmousie · 16/12/2011 10:36

I guess I see MN as it was as an acceptable risk. To me. Outweighed by the benefits which are huge.
That balance tips the other way possibly too far if I might accidentally post all my details to facebook.

ruddynorah · 16/12/2011 10:36

Gosh you moaning lot sound terribly old I'm afraid. Most websites have fb like buttons on.

As others have said, you don't have to click it. And as for those who thought mn was private and no one else in the world could read your posts, well how naive!

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 10:36

wannabe, surely the issue is anonymity, not privacy per se? Doesn't matter how many people read about your 3rd degree tearing if they don't know who you are. We are discussing (I thought) the possibility of FB identities being linked, accidentally or otherwise, to MN ones and thus people being "outed". The issue isn't your posts being read by strangers as such - obviously that's what happens now.

I tend to agree however that the only way to guarantee that your most personal info never becomes widely known is not to post it on the internet, even anonymously. Technologies change, sites change. That's a much bigger issue.

MistleTobyLeWolef · 16/12/2011 10:41

Gosh you moaning lot sound terribly old I'm afraid. Most websites have fb like buttons on.

Yep. And on no other website do I post personal experiences/information like I do here, safe in the knowledge that it's as anonymous as I can make it.

As others have said, you don't have to click it. And as for those who thought mn was private and no one else in the world could read your posts, well how naive!

You don't have to click it, but you can't stop someone else clicking it. That is the issue here.
And I don't believe anyone was naive enough to think that MN was private and that nobody else could read posts here. That is, after all, how many of us came to be here by reading about MN and checking it out for ourselves. But we live in a culture of attention-whoring and laziness. Some people love to be 'internet famous'. And some people use 'liking' things on Facebook as their sole method of communicating their feelings/opinions. So putting a 'like' button on posts is just too tempting for those twats-- people.

MistleTobyLeWolef · 16/12/2011 10:42

surely the issue is anonymity, not privacy per se? Doesn't matter how many people read about your 3rd degree tearing if they don't know who you are. We are discussing (I thought) the possibility of FB identities being linked, accidentally or otherwise, to MN ones and thus people being "outed". The issue isn't your posts being read by strangers as such - obviously that's what happens now.

THIS.

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 10:46

ruddynorah, you've got the wrong end of the stick as well. Obviously nobody thought these threads were private. But people do assume they can remain anonymous and FB (as discussed in my long essay post p19) do not have a great record here. It may not always be enough to just "not click the button".

Frankly even if FB did have a great record, it wouldn't make any difference. Technologies change, websites change, site policies change. Every time any two sites you use decide to link up and open an information channel between them, you are at risk of information crossing a divide without your knowledge or permission. Being aware of data sharing issues is part of being safe on the internet. It's something to bear in mind when you post anywhere.

wannaBe · 16/12/2011 10:47

but if you're not clicking the button, how is your "anonimity" going to be compromised any more than if one of your rl friends happens upon it in their internet browsings?

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 10:48

wannabe, read my post on p19.

ruddynorah · 16/12/2011 10:50

I haven't missed the point. You all sound like stressy fishwives.

FrothingBeserker · 16/12/2011 10:51

I worry more about why MNHQ are anxious to promote the 'point and giggle/snigger' type of poster.

The reason why MN took off originally was that it was more about proper discussion, and rational argument. Obviously, as the site has increased in traffic, some of that has been eroded.

But I don't get why MNHQ want to actively pursue this type of poster, or actively encourage its members to participate in this type of voyeurism.

SadlyNo · 16/12/2011 10:52

No, you actually have missed the point.

Trills · 16/12/2011 10:52

That's a silly thing to say Sadly - not everyone has pages and there are a number of different ways to set your pages so "page 19" means nothing.