what the actual is that facebook like button doing there?

[CarolCervix]

has it always been there? or has it moved? and does that mean if someone 'likes' that thread it will be posted to their fb page?

that wouldn't work either. I DO NOT want my posts posted on other people's facebook pages.

I like the drop down bar thing

I argued 'for' the like button. But I did not imagine you would implement it like this. I thought it would a MN only type of thing.

Like many others, my FB account is in my real name and I use a pseudonym on MN. It wouldn't take much for regular MNetters to work out who I am, but I don't want the link between the two to be made any easier than it already is.

I think that this is a really, really bad idea and I'm surprised that you have decided to go this way. Wasn't there enough of an outcry when you had the FB and Twitter buttons last time?

but nipple (and i am honestly not trying to piss anyone off) you can't stop anyone. you are posting on a public forum. the only way to protect yourself is not to post anything that might identify you. I have posted links to loads of MN threads, some very informative, others very funny, never with malice. You have probably already been on my facebook page.

This is just adding to my shitty day tbh (OTTR).

I really need to talk about something but can't risk RL seeing it.

There will be other people who have no one but MN to discuss things with and that lifeline has gone now .

It's too obvious and easy.

before people had to think about it a bit and (i hope) make a conscious decision) Now I fear people will be just clicking 'Like' without thinking about it just as a'Oh I like this' reaction.

I posted this on the AIBU thread, but I think it's better here on this thread:

I think this is where MNHQ have shot themselves in the foot. Of course posts on most areas of Mumsnet can be seen via Google and all threads can be posted via a link to anywhere, but those actions require more than just clicking on an icon.

It doesn't take much imagination to see the potential for disaster or abuse. There have been loads of posts where FB has been a factor in emotionally difficult situations. That icon increases that possibility.

I don't recall seeing any discussions about this, and I do usually read "Site Stuff". And I don't recall any announcement about this, nor any statement about which topic areas would have this icon.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's a mass de-regging of people who now feel vulnerable - and they are probably the ones who either need help the most or have so much to offer by sharing their personal stories.

And I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's an increased access by people who are basically looky-loos thanks to a FB link on someone's wall.

Yes you cannot click the fb link. And yes others can do it and yes it will be searchable on their fb page. But unless you assume your bessie mate is going to know you are porkpiecuntychops and happens to be mutual friends with the random who has posted it on their fb. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. If you are posting on the TTC board no one will click on a thread about ttc unless they are ttc... in which case they might find the thread one day anyway by using magic google!

This is not anonymous. Nothing has changed it is just slightly easier to link on to your fb then c&p.

If you were on a thread 10 years ago it can still be found.

Do I want my fb friends to know I mumsnet? Oh hell no so I won't be liking it.. but if porkpiecuntychops does link to it on her fb- good for her its her prerogative. All she is doing is being attention to a commercial endeavor that I support. And if you want to be all secret squirell and not have any new people go start a moldies..and then make your members pay for the privilege as we can't stop them getting ad revenue and increasing traffic while we utilize their site for free.

MNHQ, you should be ashamed.

Whats the rationale? I don't get it.

Lose it.

Oh yeah, I didn't think about other people still being able to link the threads onto FB.

What worries me most is clicking it by accident. I just posted something on a thread that I wouldn't want my fb friends reading and I instantly worried I had accidently clicked that bloody button and had to go and check. Seriously, I know it is ridiculous but being outed on MN really scares me.

I foresee loads of trolls too. Just imagine..a load of likes on a thread discussing a contentious issue such as abortion...and whoops! There we go....invaded by a load of nutcases.

huggly is right about "looky-loos".

This will bring more lurkers, so I suppose they can tell the advertisers they have more members. But I think they will lose "regular" posters.

When I was first here, it was very lonely as my children were older than many people's were and I was facing things that other people weren't. I have had support, but also importantly I have supported others, some of whom are still around, some who dipped in when things were bad and then disappeareed when they improved.

I have tried very hard to give back to this site . By helping other parents realise that they are not alone as they try to cope in difficult circumstances.

I feel like I've been kicked in the teeth a bit .

Gosh, if I was MNHQ sentences like "Seriously, I know it is ridiculous but being outed on MN really scares me." would make me wonder why the poster is even here then. And probably make me feel bad.

It's not the same as when you had to link.

That's like saying, it doesn't matter if MN advertises [insert crappy shop/company...Hooters for example] as you can always go and find Hooters yourself.

Well it's not exactly the same as this isn't presented as advertising, though of course it is - and the dynamic is slightly different, however, the fact is MN is now affiliated with FB in this way and I think that's a bad thing. And I don't even USE FB.

That said I'm not entirely sure how it is likely to cause problems for people, any more than when people just link threads anyway.

I just dislike the affiliation intensely. And to have it on sensitive topics is really very stupid. The individual FB like buttons for posts are also stupid. But they didn't put them in sensitive topics at least, or they made a fuss about saying they wouldn't.

FB like buttons seem to be all over the internet like a nasty rash, and I'm not entirely comfortable with that as I don't trust Facebook - far, far too many privacy changes without notification for my liking. The number of times I had to reset my settings. I'm glad to be out of it.

And why do we have to link to other sites anyway? What's wrong with keeping conversations on MN?

Oh, it's about traffic ...

You have IAmFuckingPissedOff we all have.

janebirkin that makes sense.. i can see why you might not like the mumsnet/fb advertising link but most everyone else seems to feel they have been just telling a few million of their closest friends some gossip over the fence.

threads are linked on twitter all the time, this isn't that different

and to be honest some fresh input would be welcome on some of the topics on here!

as people say before mn is a business etc etc

Get it off, ge it off!

[chants]

Get it off.

www.surveymonkey.com/s/PF53JNP

a member has done this survey hope you all can answer the 3 question it take under 1 minute to do

Oh, it's about traffic

Well yeah. This isn't a non for profit and MNHQ aren't volunteering at a soup kitchen. It's a buisness. Would you complain to your local shop because they advertised and wanted people to shop there?

Calm down everyone, blimey

Ok so, someone clicks 'like' on the thread

A link to the thread is posted as a 'like' on their FB profile

That person clicking 'like' will more than likely have nothing whatsoever to do with you, and no association with you whatsoever.

If you have mutual MN friends on FB with someone who 'likes' your post, then those mutual friends will see the thread - but they would have seen it on MN anyway.

People already can and frequently do c&p links to MN threads on FB

So again, what's the big deal?

It's a big fuss about nothing at all.

It's not like it's going to post on every facebooks users wall 'I liked this thread, and it was written by Jane Smith, who posts on MN as Janeyanyone and she lives at 101 Anyroad, Anytown, and here are her credit card details, and her bra size is 36C'

yy BIWI, that's what I posted upthread, it's a bit bizarre

I think this is a case of ''be careful what you wish for because you might get it''

[heavy sigh] because we wished for summat but were not specific enough :

''we wanna like button but neglected to say 'but not an actual LIKE button' ''

IYSWIM

'It's not like it's going to post on every facebooks users wall 'I liked this thread, and it was written by Jane Smith, who posts on MN as Janeyanyone and she lives at 101 Anyroad, Anytown, and here are her credit card details, and her bra size is 36C''

I TOLD you never to out me

Thanks a bunch.