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what the actual is that facebook like button doing there?

999 replies

CarolCervix · 15/12/2011 16:42

has it always been there? or has it moved? and does that mean if someone 'likes' that thread it will be posted to their fb page?

OP posts:
LoremIpsum · 15/12/2011 20:37

If someone you don't know likes a thread here, how will that link your MN to your FB? If someone reads a thread on MN and works out who you are, the thread being on FB won't have anything to do with that.

It's never, ever private here. On any site the lurker to poster ratio is hugely weighted on the lurker side. There are thousands of people from all over the world reading your posts anyway, and plenty close to home too. A like button won't help them work out who you are.

I didn't even notice the button, have no strong feelings on it, but would like to understand why people feel it puts them at risk. What am I missing?

JaneBirkin · 15/12/2011 20:37

Biwi, and others, I don't think this is the like button they were going to trial. I think that was an MN only like button.

I think this is something ELSE they're doing in the interim.

winterfox · 15/12/2011 20:37

i do think people sometimes over estimate other people really giving a toss one way or another, your life isn't that interesting to others Grin

Nipple · 15/12/2011 20:37

thread pops up on Person As FB wall.

Person B reads thread.

Person B notices MY profile pic in Person As list of friends. A bell rings. Person B knows me too and knows what I was talking about on the MN thread. Person B know knows exactly who I am on MN and can search my posts and link them on FB too if the so wish.
Person C is a friend of Person B and also knows me. They now see my MN posts. They see my profile pic in their list of friends. Another bell rings. They too now know who I am on MN. MN life and REal life collide. No more anonymity or privacy.

Nipple · 15/12/2011 20:38

Person D posts something about work on MN.

Thread gets linked.

Person D gets sacked.

5318hoho8 · 15/12/2011 20:38

now I am confused dot com

This isn't connected to the interminable ''like'' button discussions?

#goesforaliedown

lubeybaublely · 15/12/2011 20:40

Nipple

the 'like' appearing on person A's facebook profile won't supply any details or pics about the real life you.

No one will know or find out anything apart from any mutual MN friends you may have on FB, who are munsnetters and would have seen your post anyway.

IReallyHateMyCat · 15/12/2011 20:41

nipple. Person A is too stupid to not post loads of identifying information about themselves on the internet. Person B is a mumsnetter and person A's boss.

Person A is fucked because person A is stupid.

Everyone needs to not be so naive.. and rather than worrying about becoming mnst royalty...you should name change. Frequently. And better yet don't give too much private info out!

JaneBirkin · 15/12/2011 20:42

I guess I feel like I'm being marketed as a product, to FB of all places and that's a yucky thing.

I won't even see the linked threads on FB as I don't use it.

I would prefer people were able to lurk but not to use my posts on other sites...are we not copyrighted any more to MNHQ?

This is the only bit bugging me really. I hate the idea of it being reprinted on the web by random people. Some idiot posted great swathes of threads on her blog once for people to point at and laugh/insult. That wasn't nice.
And she was the one who had got it all horribly wrong.

I think this is maybe the point - that people feel overexposed, because it's become 'normal' to allow their writing to be shared in a way that means they have no control over what's done with it, who sees it, etc - yes this was always a possibility and a probability but now it's being sanctioned? It's not right.

LoremIpsum · 15/12/2011 20:43

That's a fairly long bow to draw though, Nipple. Why would Person B link you being a friend of Person A to you being on Mumsnet?

Say someone liked one of the Frother's threads because they wanted to spread the word on their cause, how would that person's FB friends have any idea which other friends were also MN users? Why would they care? What would they be looking for? If your FB settings are restricted to your friends, anyone friends with Person A who wasn't already your friend wouldn't even see you there. Why would your friends trawl for stuff on you?

I don't get it.

winterfox · 15/12/2011 20:45

i was browsing through the mumsnet rules book the other day, did mn ask every posters permission to quote them?

no as they own the copyright

it's just a fact, i think people forget that

redlac · 15/12/2011 20:45

But these threads are public and can be found on Google and people could copy and paste links on FB so its not any different

IReallyHateMyCat · 15/12/2011 20:47

MNHQ have sold books with what we write in them well not what i write bastards

ThisPaleBlueLineIsMineAllMine · 15/12/2011 20:47

I don't know which is scarier to be honest...

the fact that Mn have decide they need more traffic

or

the fact that 100s of women on here think they are in a safe place and unidentifiable on one of the most popular websites in the Uk....hell, we even had the Mn election two years ago, Justine has been on Question Time and the thread topics on here are routinely nicked for The Wright Stuff, Nicky Campbell phone in etc.

hugglymugly · 15/12/2011 20:47

lubeybaublely - I'm not targetting you, but I think many members here have their own favourite areas, and if people don't go into those areas they may not realise what the consequences could be.

I thought to do some research and see what areas have the "like" button. And the very first on the A-Z topics is "Forces Sweethearts". And I did no more research. There are posters there who could easily be outed by someone clicking on the icon. That's just one example where the link between FB and MN could cause trouble.

LoremIpsum · 15/12/2011 20:48

But Jane, anyone can link to any mumsnet thread anytime, anywhere, anyway. If someone is the kind of fuckwit who links to threads and laughs, they're already doing it. It's not very nice, but it's no more of a risk than it ever was.

Again, I don't get the Person A and B thing. Yes if Person A posted a public FB rant about work and their boss saw it they'd be in the shit, if they do it anonymously on a forum then for all they know, their boss is already a member and might read it anyway. There's nothing about a like button that says, by the way Boss Person, the anon ranter here is really Person A.

IReallyHateMyCat · 15/12/2011 20:48

sorry winterfox thought you were saying the mumsnet rules as in t&c not the book mumsnet rules

Nipple · 15/12/2011 20:50

I have posted deep inner rants on here about differnt real life issues. I would never want these out in the open but that doesn't mean the support and advice given by a random bunch of strangers isn't wanted. Without it I'd frequently be floundering. But I would rather get some advice from strangers than friends. That is my issue with this. It is a minute chance I would be 'outed' through FB but it is a possible. And that big, obvious, easy link buton worries me.

IReallyHateMyCat · 15/12/2011 20:50

huggly.. hopefully the people on those forums realize they were visible to any journalist passing nosy person and didn't post identifying info. The internet has been around a while now people.. we need to suck it up that if you want to rant online you need to be careful!

QuintessentiallyFestive · 15/12/2011 20:51

Sad on no. Tell me it is not my fault

Sad

I may have to flounce for ever.

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 15/12/2011 20:51

" if they do it anonymously on a forum then for all they know, their boss is already a member and might read it anyway. There's nothing about a like button that says, by the way Boss Person, the anon ranter here is really Person A."

Well, if their boss is a single male it's pretty likely he isn't a member here. He may, however, be a Facebook friend with someone who is and who clicked "like" and then recognise himself from the rant.

Clicking a dumb like button makes it far more likely someone will pass on a link to FB because it is so easy.

QuintessentiallyFestive · 15/12/2011 20:52

It was A JOKE I did not think you would actually go and develop that!!!

PeanutsRoastingOnAnOpenFire · 15/12/2011 20:52

Where are MNHQ?

We are unhappy SadSadSadAngryAngryAngry

voddiekeepsmesane · 15/12/2011 20:53

The thing I don't like is that while I know this is an open forum and anyone can google threads, having a instant like link to FB is yet another barrier broken down. It takes time a little inclination to trawl through thread via google or even within MN itself, but an instant hit on a like button allows potentially 1000s of new people to see a thread in a second.

JaneBirkin · 15/12/2011 20:53

Lorem, yes that's so and I acknowledge it, however the fact MNHQ have decided to offer up this opportunity on a plate to those who might wish to do it is imo wrong.