to be ridiculously excited to have just booked tickets for a swinging club for NYE party?

[goodcompany2]

First time without kids on NYE in 7 years and excited!!!

So if you disagree with swinging/find it wrong etc you aren't allowed to say as that slut shaming.

But if you are into it, it's ok to insult people who don't?

As I said before, it's not my bag. But I hope the Op enjoys it.

However I don't get how people can moan about their lifestyle choice being insulted...whole insulting other people.

Helmetbymidnight me either.

In general, I'm not surprised by the amount of mundanes screaming and pearl clutching on this thread. Each to their own in terms of what you do and don't fancy trying, sure. But people who are noisily insistent that a) anything other than monogamy is 'sad' or 'horrible' and b) banging on about the unattractiveness of other people ('fat', 'old' etc) you're the ones deluding yourselves. You're the mugs. You've bought into the idea that a 'good' relationship is about your partner being your property, along with the idea that only the young, thin and expensively dressed are allowed to have sex, and that ordinary or aging bodies are disgusting. The whole heavily-pushed intersecting ideas that sex is only valid if it happens between perfect people in a monogamous relationship is all about capitalism and patriarchy - making people obsess about who they own and about their own imperfections, and spend their money on consumer goods to make them 'sexier'

Utter Bollocks.

*They also have 'Greedy girl' parties for women who like being with lots of men and 'Black man fanclub' parties for women who like shagging black guys ( and the partners who enjoy watching them...) people travel a long way for these parties in particular, they seem v popular for some reason!

Its all such a bloody cliche. How come we never here of people who flock from miles around to shag a 4foot 11inch Chinaman?

There's nothing wrong with deciding that you, yourself, don't fancy swinging. There's nothing wrong with deciding that you, yourself, have no interest in sex at all and would like to remain celibate all your life. It's your body and your choices are your business.

What makes you a mundane idiot is the desire to make such a big noise about how awful other people's different choices are. Other people enjoying swinging, or BDSM, or romantic trappings before they can feel sexually excited, are as important and relevant to your life as whether they prefer coffee to tea and how much sugar they add to either drink. But heterosexual monogamy is a social construction, not 'natural', and the relentless propaganda in favour of it is more to do with the way it works to prop up the capitalist/patriarchal system than anything else (a system which runs primarily on male ownership of women's unpaid labour, and convinces women that to be the property of one man and to 'keep him interested' is their destiniy and their best interests.)

sgb and how are you better by calling them mundane idiots?

Well, well, well. My happy monogamous relationship is part of a capitalist patriarchal construct. Every day's a school day.

DioneTheDiabolist

'It's not about you though. The OP created a post about her, not you. Nor is it a case that if you don't want to swing you must be insecure. It is the case that people who are disparaging of other adult's consentual sexual choices, be it homosexuality, polyamory or casual one on one, tend to have insecurities.'

Exactly. If you are that sure of your own opinion, why do we all have to share it? People criticising seem to be seeking validation of their choices. What does it matter if some other dudes are enjoying themselves?

nothing against swinging, it doesnt especially appeal to me but really it's just posh dogging

Can I ask a few questions please?
1)whare do you hang your clothes? Do you have special hooked with your names on?
2)what's the buffet like is it a decent spread or is it just a few bread sticks and some olives?
3)how can you bothered to have sex loads of times so close together? 2-3 times sure after that it's a glass of water and warm pyjama time!
4) doesn't it hurt after a while. ?
5) do you go for a kebab after?

Clubs have lockers where you can store your normal clothes, you get a key on an elastic band. As previously stated ( don't know why everyone is so obsessed by the buffet) , it tends to be standard buffet fare, so sandwiches, chicken wings, sausage rolls, crudités with dips and cakes, chocolate etc.

Re the amount of sex, well you have to pace yourself, take breaks, hang out and chill for a while and yes if you overdo it you can get a bit sore...!

I'm a mundane suburban pinny ironer

last new year as I recall one of our guests brought a bottle of Lidl asti spumante round

LIDL

imagine!

you fucking go for it, OP

heh

sgb once told me I wasn't a "mundane"

I surprised myself by how ridiculously flattered I was

Oh dear Lord, I can see a hell of a lot of behaviour (male and female) can be attributed to being brought up in a patriarchy.

I really don't give a fuck what people do with their genitals or with whom but women who DON'T choose to have sex with random strangers in a sex club either with or without their partners are not victims of/conforming to a patriarchal system any more than women who do choose to DO that (there'd be more of a case to suggest that female swingers are victims of a patriarchy than those who don't swing) but as I said, I really don't care what people do with their sexuality or genitals as long as it isn't harming anyone.

( don't know why everyone is so obsessed by the buffet)

ROAR

I'm not obsessed with the buffet- I just want to know where you keep the locker key on elastic band, so it doesn't feel like swimming

Oh it's just like swimming ( except the blokes tend to keep their condoms under the elastic band - good job really, as if they're just wearing a towel there isn't anywhere else to keep them!)

Where do the ladeez keep them ?

Well I have a little glittery bag!

How fancy

Will you all stop shagging at midnight for ' old Lang syne?'

I'll let you know....haha

It's not whether you do or don't swing that makes you mundane - it's how loud and insistent you are in your utterly irrational disgust for the people who do.

Ok, here's one from me - are fat people welcome? Would they even be able to think about going? Or is it very much a case of fat people aren't considered attractive even at swingers clubs and people wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

Is the word 'mundane' the well known insult of choice from swingers? Seems an odd word to choose.

Sansoora:

The thing about purportedly weird things like this is that it's actually perfectly ordinary people who are into them. So swingers clubs, sex clubs, fetish nights etc are full of everyday people you might meet in Tesco.

The only reason you might not know someone enjoys that sort of thing is that they won't tell you for fear of disapproval and disparaging remarks.

Which is sad because even friends who unknowingly share these interests are afraid to talk to each other about it in case they are judged.

There are even people reading this thread who think wow that sounds cool, but can't say so because of all the my-net-curtains-are-whiter-than-your-net-curtains.