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12yo DS getting bullied and school not doing anything

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DarkDusk · Yesterday 18:25

DS is 12 and in year 7. He has always been a very confident child, quite loud and chatty, funny, very expressive and he has never really cared what other people think of him. He is quite camp/feminine in the way he talks and moves and has always been like that. He loves singing, pop music, drama and musical theatre, does his skincare, likes doing his hair etc. He is very determined and can be quite stubborn.

He was at a really small village primary, there were only about 18 children in his year and most of them had been together since reception. He had a good group of friends there and was generally very happy. He did get the odd comment about being “girly” but it was never anything like this and he was comfortable being himself.

When he started secondary he was actually really excited. He was adamant he didn’t want one of the Nike bags or a plain black backpack like loads of the boys have. He chose this: https://uk.justhype.com/products/hype-unisex-multi-pastel-prints-badge-backpack

At first it was mainly boys in his year making comments about the bag but it has spread beyond that now. There are older boys who have started joining in as well, including some year 8 and 9 boys apparently. DS says they see him around school and make comments about the bag, call it a girls bag, ask if it belongs to his sister, call him gay etc. Some of them don’t even know him. They’ve just picked up on what the other boys are doing.

And it isn’t really just the bag anymore. They make comments about the way he talks and copy his voice, take the piss out of the way he walks and moves his hands, call him names because he is feminine and make comments about the things he likes. He says they will see him and start doing the voice or saying things like “here he comes” and laughing. One of them apparently took a photo of him with the bag and sent it round a group chat. I haven’t seen the photo or the group chat myself so I can only go on what DS has told me but DS isn’t in it

He has also told me they make comments when they are getting changed for PE, including things about him being gay and comments about his body and appearance. He doesn’t want to repeat everything they’ve said and I don’t want to keep pushing him for details, but it is clearly more than boys just saying they don’t like his bag. They seem to have decided he is an easy target because he is different to them.

The school have been pretty useless tbh. I’ve spoken to his form tutor and head of year more than once and every time it comes back to “we have no evidence” and that they can’t take action based on what DS says happened. They say they will keep an eye on things but DS says the same boys are still doing it. I understand they can’t punish a child for something they haven’t witnessed but surely they can actually do something when a child is repeatedly naming the same boys and describing the same behaviour? Especially when it isn’t one incident and now seems to involve older pupils too.

On Friday one of them shoved him into a locker after another comment about his bag. He wasn’t hurt but came home absolutely raging and said he can deal with them himself. He is still very confident and keeps telling me he isn’t scared of them, which is him, but I’ve noticed other things. He now wants a plain black school bag even though he was so adamant he didn’t want one before. He has also decided he wants his hair cut. He showed me a picture on his phone and it is basically the haircut most of the boys at his school have. He normally loves doing his hair and has never cared about having the same haircut as everyone else, so this has really bothered me.

I think he is starting to work out that if he looks and acts more like the other boys they might leave him alone. That makes me really sad because there was absolutely nothing wrong with him before.

His dad thinks he needs to stand up for himself and has even suggested boxing. I don’t agree with that. I don’t want DS hitting someone and then being the one who gets punished or excluded, especially when the school already seems to be doing very little.

I don’t know whether to just keep pushing the school or go above head of year and make a formal complaint. And do I let him get the black bag and have the haircut if that’s what he wants? I don’t want to make a huge thing of the bag and tell him he has to keep it, because ultimately it’s just a bag, but I also don’t want him thinking he has to change himself to stop other people picking on him.

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Thatcannotberight · Yesterday 19:56

If the main perpetrators are in his tutor group, definitely get him in a different tutor group ( with black bag ).
In my experience, the only bullying schools take seriously are homophobic slurs/comments ( regardless of your son's sexuality or sense of self).

Soontobe60 · Yesterday 20:02

DarkDusk · Yesterday 19:11

He has experienced rudeness in the past but he takes it in his stride because he’s usually so confident

I didn’t go to school here in the uk so no I didn’t know about what secondary schools were like. I did warn him against it and mentioned him having a back others have purely from seeing them walking to school before he started but he was determined and I didn’t feel like I should stop him if he was so determined because it was basically telling him he has to change

He doesn’t have to change as such, but he does need support in learning how to fit in. Buying him such a bag really was putting a target on his back - in some schools, even girls would be called out for having such a bag.
Life can be very unfair if you’re a bit different - one would have to be incredibly thick skinned to take all the jokes and ridicule for presenting in a way that’s very different from the norm. In an ideal world everyone should be able to wear what they like at all times without it being an issue, but in the real world, things aren’t like that. Get him the basic bag and basic haircut, school isn’t an episode of Drag Race…

Soontobe60 · Yesterday 20:04

SummerFeverVenice · Yesterday 19:20

You have to write a physical letter and sign it detailing bullying incidents with dates and names. Your DS needs to keep a diary of incidents.

Thats what they need as evidence- a report of bullying.

You can’t do it by talking. In the letter make sure to mention if they do not reply with a meeting and plan of action, you will be involving the local authority/academy governing board and OFSTED.

The LA, governing body and OFSTED will just refer her back to the school complaints policy.

PassTheCranberrySauce · Yesterday 20:07

sparrowhawkhere · Yesterday 19:52

I would go on Monday with everything listed and say you will wait to speak to the head or most senior person that day. You could then escalate to the chair of governors. It’s shocking that this hasn’t been addressed.

Do not do this. Teachers teach, even senior leadership, they are not just sitting around waiting for parents to rock up; additionally they will have lots of meetings already lined up.

OP, anyone standing out by choice (e.g. bag, haircut etc.) will be identified and called out by idiots. It’s a shame, but it’s safer to camouflage a bit at school and express yourself outside of the school environment. School is basically a job: turn up, work hard, hope you don’t get into trouble. Some kids hate being there, so they take it out on nicer kids. Let your DS go under the radar a bit from now on, so that he isn’t a target for horrible kids.

Balloonhearts · Yesterday 20:12

Your DH is right. He needs to stick up for himself. Flatten one of them, the rest will back off.

I'd be down there demanding to know why my child has been the target of hate speech and homophobia with no consequences to the perpetrators? I'd also be pointing out that he has now been physically assaulted by these boys and can not be expected to just take it. Why the fuck should he have to change, just to fit in with a bunch of homophobic little tossers?

Bullying destroys a person in so many ways.

I still remember the look on my headteachers face when my dad told him that he had taught me how to punch them in the throat and I wouldn't be in trouble if I did. 😆

I punched one and hit another with a tennis racquet. The third and most persistent, my dad got hold of and told him if he touched me again, he'd kill him. Bullies understand one language.

It didn't come naturally to me either, to respond with violence but ultimately it was the only option left. You can push people only so far.

Imisschampagne · Yesterday 20:13

ohmaaaan · Yesterday 18:44

Look, I know this is not the ‘correct’ response but what the hell were you thinking!? Might as well have sent him into the arena with a spear against a pride of lions while you’re at it!

I think that’s a terrible way to view things.

It’s 2026 and not 1986.

I would raise hell at school. Call the parents of the others kids and tell them that homophobia has no place - especially not in 2026. and I would look into switching schools. Kids can be absolutely brutal, but it’s a huge failure of this school and the parents if the bullies are enabled by them to just continue.

Horses7 · Yesterday 20:18

This all sounds awful and school should be doing something about this bullying. Headteacher appointment next?
We don’t live in a perfect world unfortunately so a gentle word of advice to parents especially when their kids are off to High School - if they stand out in any way and look very different chances are they will be singled out for attention/bullying. It’s not fair and it’s totally wrong but sadly it’s the way of the world even in these more enlightened times.
My friend’s child was bullied by girls at HS because parents dressed her in very expensive (real) designer coat/clothes/bag - when uniform wasn’t that strict. It made her different and no doubt the other girls were jealous.
So sorry your son is going through this.

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:22

If they're being homophobic then it's a hate crime. The school need to take it very seriously. You can also go to the police? It's not on in 2026 - we had similar with my daughter and the bully was dealt with seriously. Good luck what a sad world we live in

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:23

Boys do weirdly all look the same these days - all terrified of standing out! How sad and good for ur son!

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:24

Honestly OP read them the bloody riot act it's a Hate Crime abd and it's 2026.x

2boyzNosleep · Yesterday 20:34

That is awful and it must be so upsetting for him and you.

Unfortunately, the teenage years are all about fitting in. A lot of schools don't to be able to deal with bullying.

Your only options to support your DC now is to let him pick the bag, haircut and appearance he is saying he wants.

If the bullying still doesnt stop then you need to seriously consider changing schools for his wellbeing.You shouldnt have to, but its a better option then fighting the school for months/years

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:35

Get the school to do Soohie Lancaster foundation assembly to maybe open a few tiny minds? They're an amazing charity.

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:39

@PassTheCranberrySauce- I find your stance completely spineless tbh - jeez - things don't change if people don't stand up to bullies/homophobes/general crapness and it becomes acceptable.

Imisschampagne · Yesterday 20:46

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:39

@PassTheCranberrySauce- I find your stance completely spineless tbh - jeez - things don't change if people don't stand up to bullies/homophobes/general crapness and it becomes acceptable.

Yes. We would’ve not evolved as a society if nobody takes a stance.

why give women voting rights, of course it would be better if we had them but let’s not rock the boat… Why legalize homosexuality, I mean we know it’s not correct to hate on people because of that, but you know how it is …

DarkDusk · Yesterday 20:48

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:23

Boys do weirdly all look the same these days - all terrified of standing out! How sad and good for ur son!

DS has shoulder length curly hair so it makes me sad that he wants to cut it quite short and it’s not even because he wants to it’s to fit in, if it was his choice that’d be fine

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Luddite26 · Yesterday 20:54

it's funny if this was in the work place someone would have more protection but when it's children nobody wants to stop it.
Sorry your son is getting this shit.

sparrowhawkhere · Yesterday 20:54

PassTheCranberrySauce · Yesterday 20:07

Do not do this. Teachers teach, even senior leadership, they are not just sitting around waiting for parents to rock up; additionally they will have lots of meetings already lined up.

OP, anyone standing out by choice (e.g. bag, haircut etc.) will be identified and called out by idiots. It’s a shame, but it’s safer to camouflage a bit at school and express yourself outside of the school environment. School is basically a job: turn up, work hard, hope you don’t get into trouble. Some kids hate being there, so they take it out on nicer kids. Let your DS go under the radar a bit from now on, so that he isn’t a target for horrible kids.

I agree that perhaps this is a bit extreme but nothing else is being done!

Wonderones · Yesterday 20:55

Have they tried to get evidence ? Other children must have seen it happening to your ds surely. You need to ask your ds to give some names of children who were nearby when it happened.
Do they not have CCTV for the shoving incident ?

Luddite26 · Yesterday 20:55

And sad that school would rather pretend it's not happening than nip it in the bud.

Brickiscool · Yesterday 20:56

The school are being crap. My kids' school would absolutely speak to the children involved. The no evidence argument is bullshit. I would keep complaining until they do something.

The bag though, it's babyish for secondary. I don't know any boys or girls who would use a bag like that at secondary. And I have to be honest I'm all for flying beneath the radar at secondary. No kid really wants to stand out. It's asking for trouble from arseholes

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:56

@DarkDusk- god it's awful they all look like chavvy road men ( even the none chavvy ones) if someone dares to stand out they're ridiculed!
What happened to all the goths/casuals/hippies etc etc - they all look so bloody boring.
Hats off to anyone that dares to stand out in 2026!

Greedybilly · Yesterday 20:58

The head teacher needs to be contacted and have a good look at hate crimes and the safe guarding policy ASAP. Good luck to you op your son sounds fab btw 👏

ohmaaaan · Yesterday 21:01

Imisschampagne · Yesterday 20:13

I think that’s a terrible way to view things.

It’s 2026 and not 1986.

I would raise hell at school. Call the parents of the others kids and tell them that homophobia has no place - especially not in 2026. and I would look into switching schools. Kids can be absolutely brutal, but it’s a huge failure of this school and the parents if the bullies are enabled by them to just continue.

  1. How are you going to find out who ‘the other kids’ are? It sounds like it’s a lot of them, spread across at least three year groups.
  2. Once you’ve found them, how will you get their parents numbers?
  3. What do you think their parents will do? The biggest problem with bullying of this nature is that when it’s this widespread no one person feels they are doing anything wrong or feeling any sort of disquiet about their behaviour. If you imagine a room that’s been trashed and you leave a coffee cup on the side, do you feel that you’re responsible and ashamed of your behaviour? You probably wouldn’t. If someone asked you ‘did you trash that room?’ you’d say no. It’s that sort of thing.

The last thing I want to do is condone homophobia but it’s an unfortunate truth that young people have always been hostile towards the one who is ‘different.’ This may not even necessarily be rooted in homophobia but more hostility to what can be seen as attention seeking - and it is, even if that’s not the conscious intention it is there somewhere.

I think we all learn to stay true to ourselves but which part of ourselves to reveal at any one time is a skill we learn as we grow up. The world does not need our unabashed unrestrained character unleashed upon it all of the time!

Volpini · Yesterday 21:02

I’m pretty horrified by the almost uniform response is that this child is supposed to hide who he is and this school is failing him.
i sadly live in a fairly unenlightened place and both my kids experienced bullying and social isolation in primary school and unfortunately I caught on too late that the school was completely ineffective.
By the time my son left, the relationship with school had completely broken down as they were so completely hopeless about a kid who was being violent to my son. Unfortunately they were destined to go to the same secondary so my son is now in an independent secondary in a different town. It has caused enormous financial stress to do this and I’m not really comfortable with the idea of an independent but in our case we didn’t have any other option other than to send him off for another 5 years of the same. (Sure as eggs are eggs, the kid who bullied him for 3 years laid into some other kid on day 1 and broke his glasses. Felt kind of vindicated.)
My son did experience some homophobia in week 2 of secondary and this did extend beyond year 7. The difference here was that - we raised it with the school and they had multiple assemblies, spoke to the kids in question and took it really seriously. They were on it straight away and stamped it out. No one told my son to tone it down.. he’s not going to school in hot pants FFS.
OP I feel for you. Your issue here is that the school leadership is weak. Can you explore an alternative setting? Meantime, I’d be all over that leadership like a rash and keep pushing until they take some action. We also sent our son to kick boxing a year ago, which he loves.
Sending you so much love - it’s absolutely depressing and miserable to watch your kids endure this. My older child is now in year 12 and I can say that things settled down for her towards the end of year 8, beginning of year 9.

Greedybilly · Yesterday 21:10

@Volpini- I STRONGLY AGREE!