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Junior maths challenge 2025

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scisso · 07/05/2025 12:29

Does anyone know when the results and boundaries get announced? How was this year’s paper in comparison to previous years?

DD sat it and thought some of them were quite hard so had to guess them, but she hasn’t done much of the past papers so doesn’t have much to compare against.

any insights would be very much appreciated.

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Jonny234 · 24/04/2026 18:07

swdd · 24/04/2026 16:46

Very impressive result, especially with no preparation on Carley. Did she do any other maths enrichment or competition work at school/home, or truly zero preparation? She is clearly very talented.

No she didn't. She got well advanced by year 5 (to about end of KS3) by using apps and then kinda stopped doing extra. Since then it's just been schoolwork and the minimum amount of homework.

Like I could say she spends no time on it but she normally finishes 1st in class and high accuracy so she might have an extra 20 mins at the end of lessons working on harder stuff other kids dont get to. None of it's UKMT stuff tho, just a harder level of what went before.

They've a lot of subjects at this age and to be honest the fact the maths is sorted means she has more time to devote to everything else.

Edit: I forgot, she does a once a week lunchtime club at school and sometimes they'll do UKMT problems.

MTHRVRD2030 · 29/04/2026 17:09

Now, JMC 2026 taken, what are your DC‘s impressions? Harder than the previous years‘ papers?

OpenaBook123 · 29/04/2026 18:38

@MTHRVRD2030 I’m curious too. My DS did two past papers (no other prep at home or school) and he would have qualified for the Kangaroo both times. But today’s paper he said he ran out of time and basically had to guess three answers. So I think the chances of a similar outcome are slim this time round! He’s in Y5 and it was his first time doing it, so we weren’t expecting much.

OpenaBook123 · 29/04/2026 18:43

The deadline to submit papers is 11.59 tonight (and I imagine that will shift with time zones) so the window is still open. But after that, does the UKMT release the answers on their website right away?

chilled31 · 29/04/2026 18:53

DD found it very hard as did all her friends and she is quite strong in Maths. @OpenaBook123 it doesn't say much about chances, since it may have been hard for everyone, the award thresholds might be lower this year. We will find out soon!

Rosalind1982 · 29/04/2026 20:17

My son did the JMC today. Last year he qualified for the JMO in Y6 having only got one (easier!) question wrong so he got 130, but this year he is sure he got two wrong and possibly a third too. Knocked his confidence a bit. He scored gold in the recent IMC and got a gold in the Grey Kangaroo too so went in feeling excited today..

user149799568 · 29/04/2026 20:36

OpenaBook123 · 29/04/2026 18:43

The deadline to submit papers is 11.59 tonight (and I imagine that will shift with time zones) so the window is still open. But after that, does the UKMT release the answers on their website right away?

The deadline to upload papers is actually midnight tomorrow night UK time. Students in Australia, New Zealand, and Asia won't do the contest until tomorrow. The submission deadline is the same for everyone.

UKMT ask to embargo the paper until 08:00 Friday UK time. Questions and solutions should be on their website by mid-morning on Friday.

OpenaBook123 · 29/04/2026 21:18

@user149799568 That’s great to know, thank you!

OpenaBook123 · 29/04/2026 21:20

@chilled31 That’s true. Let’s wait and see then! Fingers crossed. Would be so nice for him to get a decent result. He’d be really chuffed.

Jonny234 · 29/04/2026 21:33

My Yr8 DD took the exam today. As expected she said it was significantly more difficult than last year when she scored 130.

When she took the IMC a few months ago she said the fist part till Q16 or so was same as past papers but then it ramped up horribly like no past paper she had taken before, she didnt finish the paper, but still qualified for the Cayley.

With the JMC today and the way the UKMT exams have got more difficult I expected very much the same.....but surprisingly she claimed it was and it wasnt. First of all she said it was more difficult, significantly so vs last yr....but her take on it was the first 5-6 were easy and then the remainder were about a similar level through to the end. For example she found Q7 hard but Q24 very easy.

She claimed to be pretty certain on 20 of them, very confident but not sure on another 2, good educated guess on 1, and then pot luck random on 2. I did ask at what JMO she'd start to worry and she said high 11teens, ie 118 or so. From what she's explained i think at 118 it'd be touch and go.

Then I asked what she thought JMO qualification would be and she said circa 104, in light of recent UKMT adjustments (IMC Cayley dropped 19 this year) this seems somewhere in the plausible range. I'd be surprised if it was 110+ and very surprised if it was 115+.

So overall I reckon 20/25 right will about make the cut for the JMO something like (135)+(76) = 107. I'd probably guess something around there.

Overall unlike last year I'm not unduly bothered because after her IMC success in recent months she's already proven she can operate at a higher level so in the event she dropped to Kangaroo she could just put it down to being a bad day.

Jonny234 · 29/04/2026 21:51

I forgot to add for contect. My DD overheard 2 of last yr's kangaroos discussing the exam. Last yr the threshold was 100+ for this. Both said they guessed 7 questions this yr and thats with an extra years expereince. On that basis the kangaroo is going to be nowhere near last year's mark.

Ubertomusic · 29/04/2026 22:13

Jonny234 · 29/04/2026 21:33

My Yr8 DD took the exam today. As expected she said it was significantly more difficult than last year when she scored 130.

When she took the IMC a few months ago she said the fist part till Q16 or so was same as past papers but then it ramped up horribly like no past paper she had taken before, she didnt finish the paper, but still qualified for the Cayley.

With the JMC today and the way the UKMT exams have got more difficult I expected very much the same.....but surprisingly she claimed it was and it wasnt. First of all she said it was more difficult, significantly so vs last yr....but her take on it was the first 5-6 were easy and then the remainder were about a similar level through to the end. For example she found Q7 hard but Q24 very easy.

She claimed to be pretty certain on 20 of them, very confident but not sure on another 2, good educated guess on 1, and then pot luck random on 2. I did ask at what JMO she'd start to worry and she said high 11teens, ie 118 or so. From what she's explained i think at 118 it'd be touch and go.

Then I asked what she thought JMO qualification would be and she said circa 104, in light of recent UKMT adjustments (IMC Cayley dropped 19 this year) this seems somewhere in the plausible range. I'd be surprised if it was 110+ and very surprised if it was 115+.

So overall I reckon 20/25 right will about make the cut for the JMO something like (135)+(76) = 107. I'd probably guess something around there.

Overall unlike last year I'm not unduly bothered because after her IMC success in recent months she's already proven she can operate at a higher level so in the event she dropped to Kangaroo she could just put it down to being a bad day.

her take on it was the first 5-6 were easy and then the remainder were about a similar level through to the end. For example she found Q7 hard but Q24 very easy.

This is similar to what my DD said - she doesn't remember the numbers but said she found some questions in the second part relatively easy and a couple in the first part unexpectedly hard.

swdd · 29/04/2026 22:29

This was my daughter’s first time taking the JMC as a Year 5 student. She found some of the earlier “easy” questions unexpectedly time-consuming and tricky. She told me it took her 20 minutes to complete the first nine questions, which made her feel stressed and prevented her from thinking clearly about the more difficult problems—many of which I suspect she would have solved in a less pressured environment. Unfortunately, she ran out of time and didn’t attempt the final six questions at all!
Although she has consistently scored around 100 in timed mock exams at home, I estimate she may only reach 70s this time, if she’s lucky. We still hope she will narrowly achieve a gold award as the boundary is expected to be much lower.
I don’t mind the level of difficulty, but I am not happy with the inconsistency in the paper, particularly in the progression of difficulty between questions. As some posters have mentioned, the earlier questions were even harder than some of the later ones.

P.S. For reference, she scored 101 on a mock test using the 2018 paper, where the gold threshold was 75, Kangaroo 82, and Olympiad 105.

swdd · 29/04/2026 22:53

So overall I reckon 20/25 right will about make the cut for the JMO something like (135)+(76) = 107. I'd probably guess something around there. @Jonny234

My guess might be a bit wild, but I suspect the thresholds could be similar to those from 20 years ago. In the 2006 JMC, the threshold for JMO was 92 and for Gold was 66 (there was no Kangaroo round back then).

Jonny234 · 29/04/2026 23:17

swdd · 29/04/2026 22:53

So overall I reckon 20/25 right will about make the cut for the JMO something like (135)+(76) = 107. I'd probably guess something around there. @Jonny234

My guess might be a bit wild, but I suspect the thresholds could be similar to those from 20 years ago. In the 2006 JMC, the threshold for JMO was 92 and for Gold was 66 (there was no Kangaroo round back then).

Thinking about it you may not be far off.

The IMC gold this year was just 61, the 2nd lowest ever. Cayley was the lowest since 2016. There is a rebasing exercise going on after recent "inflation".

On balance I believe a JMO qualification level in the 90s is far more likely than the 110's. I had a brief chat with my DD tonight before bed and we agreed it seems unlikely kangaroo will be much above 80, it might even be lower.

Jonny234 · 30/04/2026 00:02

By the way swdd, your DD taking it as a yr 5 and competing at almost the top level is exceptional.

My DD had a bit of a strange experience. She first took it as a yr6, I'd actually forgot until she'd finished year 7 and then looked back through my emails and found she got gold in year 6. But then it was a bit weird, gold was the range 86-91, she didnt get top of year yet she can't remember anyone doing a kangaroo, including herself. It just feels as though the follow on round wasn't done at the school. I don't know if she did or didn't qualify.

Looking back if I had any advice for a yr5 it'd be don't prepare for the JMC, we never did, she just did loads of maths apps and took delight in completing them. I specifically remember in February Yr5 she mastered Doodlemaths to end of KS3. Then she was a little short in Cat4 NVR and VR and we got these up to 141+ in a months free trial of atomlearning over the summer.

Now I know my DD is well ahead of the game I don't really have much involvement in the nuts and bolts of it all, I leave it to her. But I do try and put things in context, i.e. harder exams = lower thresholds, and perhaps falling short in one exam after success in others has to be put in context. It's like confidence mentoring.

She's in a funny position now insofar that I was reading around about the IMC earlier in the year, top students universally said it was brutal, and it was. But then i saw some comments from students saying it was easier than the SMC (same 25 questions, more difficult, but 90 mins) because there was less time pressure. We've agreed she's going to try a couple of past papers in the summer and if she's at comfortable gold level we'll ask the school to enter her in the autumn. This means she'll have taken the JMC IMC SMC all in 2026, which I think will be great for her.

But like I say, your DD seems in a great place, and on current trajectory ahead of my DD. All the best in the future.

swdd · 30/04/2026 09:17

But then it was a bit weird, gold was the range 86-91, she didnt get top of year yet she can't remember anyone doing a kangaroo, including herself. @Jonny234

There are 5 possible outcomes for the range 86-91, such as 11q5+6q6=91, 12q5+5q6=90, 13q5+4q6=89,14q5+3q6=88, 15q5+2q6=87.

Looking back if I had any advice for a yr5 it'd be don't prepare for the JMC, we never did

That’s why I think your DD‘s results are even more impressive. I’ve been teaching mine competitive maths since she was very young. I even taught her up to the GCSE level, though without enough practice, she still struggles under time pressure like this year’s JMC. She loves maths and solving hard problems but isn’t the self-motivated type, so I doubt she would have made it this far without my constant guidance and instruction.

and perhaps falling short in one exam after success in others has to be put in context. It's like confidence mentoring.

Agree. Resilience training is a key part education. My DD needs these kinds of small setbacks to help her grow. Exams can be ridiculous sometimes, but you still have to adapt to them no matter what.

This means she'll have taken the JMC IMC SMC all in 2026, which I think will be great for her.

Good luck! This is proof of your DD’s excellence in maths, but it also highlights an issue with the UKMT JMC-IMC-SMC exam structure, as as there is no significant progression in difficulty.

Jonny234 · 30/04/2026 09:39

swdd

I understand the maths behind the 86-91 range but the point I was making is how likely is is that the cohort had 1+ gold certificates at least and nobody sat a kangaroo. Its quite plausible there were only 2 golds and my DD could have scored 86-88 and top of yr 89-91. But I ask is this likely? I think it's more likely than not that some (incl perhaps my DD) qualified for the Kangaroo but then the school never took the exam.

On the prep for the JMC I will add an observation. When she finished the maths app mid Yr5 I knew she was very much ahead. But then it was like where do we go from there? I really think she could have had a good attempt at GCSE in perhaps Yr6, definitely Yr7. Instead we just "parked" maths and did no extra. Over time what she's done is kind of filled in the gaps just with the maths she does at school, its not more advanced than what she was doing years ago but she's had the practice and application to consolidate her knowledge, added to extra maturity, exam practice and allocating time better in exams. In time you'll see this with your DD.

On the JMC/IMC/SMC relative difficulties my understanding generally is they arent tests of advanced theory, more about applying quite basic theory in a creative/ unconventional sense. The biggest gap from reading around seems to be the JMC to IMC jump. I think if my DD took an SMC mock there could be theory gaps but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Don't fret. You'll see it all come together over time.

swdd · 30/04/2026 10:07

I think it's more likely than not that some (incl perhaps my DD) qualified for the Kangaroo but then the school never took the exam. @Jonny234

Could you check if the school provides physical certificates? I have seen online that the gold award comes as a certificate, and the kangaroo qualification is also a gold certificate but with a specific sticker on it.

Don't fret. You'll see it all come together over time.

Sure. I use maths competitions to help develop her thinking skills, and I am happy to see my DD has recently become obsessed with chess and has two tournaments coming up. It is proving to be a brilliant way for her to unwind. I have actually stepped back from the advanced mathematics for the next six months. I think a change of pace is exactly what is needed to stay fresh and let different skills complement each other.

Jonny234 · 30/04/2026 10:41

We found the physical certificate in a folder in the cupboard, I don't know why but we totally forgot it had ever been issued. None of us in the family can remember. The certificate for the golds is just the name and then you get a small rosette in the top left corner if you are best in school or best in year. No gold certificate however gives any indication of follow on qualification to the Kangaroo or Olympiad rounds if these thresholds have been met. Instead there is a separate invitation from UKMT to sit the follow on, but we never saw that....if it existed.

I've found with mine that you can mentor, guide and steer but at moments in time they develop a passion for something else and that takes over. When this happens you just have to sit back and let them ride that out. Out of the blue my DD started Spanish Duolingo early in yr7 as a few friends at school were using it. She wasnt a novice after taking the subject in junior school. At first maybe in October she toyed with it, tried to increase levels then really went deep into it, a bit like she'd done with maths 2 yrs earlier, maybe 3-4 hrs a week all off her own back. Finished the whole app by the end of year 7. Like with the maths of yrs before she's got gaps here and there and over time is filling them in. Now in Yr8 the book she works through in class is a GCSE one, she is well advanced.

chilled31 · 30/04/2026 14:50

DD qualified for Kangaroo in y6 but also got a Gold certificate, not sure if that was just her school, but they gave everyone above the Gold threshold a Gold certificate (which said nothing further about Kangaroo) but then they told those who qualified for Kangaroo in person that they were going to sit an additional round.

nannyl · 30/04/2026 15:41

This year DD1 (who has been kangeroo / best in school in, since y6) did the one for y9+ as shes now in y9

My DD2 who is very good at maths, but not at the "best in school" level as her sister took it (for the 3rd time)

I also work in their school and spoke to the person who invidulated the primary children (independant school with primary and seniors)
She has invidulated the junior maths challenge for the past 4 years and she believed that this one was harder than the others.

My DD2 said it was hard, but she didnt think it was much harder than last years.... (but she has had another year of maths lessons since)

I cant imagine DD2 will get through to kangeroo or anything... she'l be delighted if she gets bronze!

Bourneyesterday · 30/04/2026 16:01

I'm surprised to read these comments. My DS's school didn't even tell them anything about the paper and just gave it to them to do so they had no time to even look into what the challenge was. What's the point in children sitting it without any prior familiarisation of the questions when other children are learning how to complete past test papers? Is the point not to find children who are naturally good at maths, not children who have been intensively tutored?

Foxhasbigsocks · 30/04/2026 16:13

It’s great to hear of the fantastic results dc have had.

However, to your point @Bourneyesterday there is definitely a known curriculum for the JMC and highly academic selective schools do a lot of prep for it. In response to that it seems the UKMT are just making it harder.

I really wonder about how well that meets the purpose which one would hope is trying to enthuse people about maths, not demoralise them by taking a harder test against people who have an unfair advantage from extensive prep.

cheekynamechang3 · 30/04/2026 16:14

Bourneyesterday · 30/04/2026 16:01

I'm surprised to read these comments. My DS's school didn't even tell them anything about the paper and just gave it to them to do so they had no time to even look into what the challenge was. What's the point in children sitting it without any prior familiarisation of the questions when other children are learning how to complete past test papers? Is the point not to find children who are naturally good at maths, not children who have been intensively tutored?

I can't comment on the others' approaches and my maths loving daughter is not competitive at all... her school take a similar approach as yours.

But I did give her prep exercises to do - past papers so she could get a feel for the questions, and she did an online course which suggested techniques.

I did this as I wanted to encourage her to focus a bit more on her interest in maths. She really enjoyed the exercises too as the mathematical approach is not like a typical school exercise.

She's not olympiad standard or anything, I just wanted to answer your question about why people prep.

Also, I know of a local grammar who do prep- the whole year are prepped and entered, so I had that in mind too.