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Son has been suspended for being five minutes late in total

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QuickAzureJoker · 29/01/2025 21:50

My son 15 has been suspended from school until further notice 2 weeks ago he was 5 minutes late to school as he has to follow a one way system which makes it take longer to get to his particular class so he showed up minutes late and told to get out as soon as he walked through the door he then had to sit in a different room in silence missing the entire lesson just because he was five minutes late one time he was also given a 1:30 minute detention set for the next day he came home fuming about what had happened and refused to do the 1:30 detention as he said was unfair and over the top for one time lateness, as he didn't go to the detention it has been updated so that he has to sit in a room for 6 hours without talking just on a laptop doing work unrelated to his lessons for the day and he suffers with migraines so I think it will be a bad ideo for him to sit at the laptop all day and the fact that he is not allowed to go outside for break and lunch so when the day came last Thursday he refused said that it was still unfair and asked them to remove it and the head of year said "unfortunately that's the rules" he has struggled in the past to be in school and was put on a 8 week course to help him get back into school and for the last 2 weeks he was in everyday so that's why we think they should let him have some lenience around the detention especially as it was the second day of the new one way system and arrive in five minutes rule. As he refused to go and do the all day sanction he was suspended and is still suspended until further notice does anyone know what to do to get it removed or put in a complaint to chance the rules

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Snorlaxo · 29/01/2025 23:44

You’ve clearly picked a school that has very strict discipline rules.

What did you and your son think would happen when he skipped detentions? They were obviously going up rapidly escalate the punishment. Isn’t there a behaviour policy where the escalation has been explained? School has to escalate if a student skips detention because it will rapidly escalate into kids not caring about getting detentions and doing as they please.

One way systems are very common in schools after Covid. If everyone struggled to get to class on time you’d have a point, but presumably everybody else who had the same lesson beforehand managed it so that’s not the case. Are you sure that he went straight to his next class? Punishment for being late is reasonable because the teacher has to crack on with the lesson and finish on time.

Is this one of those super strict schools where kids aren’t allowed to talk to each other at lunch etc? If it is, then you and your son should have known to suck up the first detention because they weren’t going to let it go. It sounds like you support your son’s actions and think that the excuses like migraine are acceptable to get out of internal exclusion. If you don’t support the school rules why did you send him back there after he school refused in the past ?

CherryVanillaPie · 29/01/2025 23:55

Yes, 90 minutes is excessive for being 5 mins late, but he was not suspended for being 5 minutes late. He was suspended for refusing to do the isolation he got for refusing to do the detention. Have the school confirmed the 90 mins was for being 5 mins late once?

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/01/2025 23:59

If others made it to the class in time then so can be

he was late. Yes a strict punishment but means he won’t be late again

but he refused

and that’s why been suspended

Waitingfordoggo · 30/01/2025 00:00

He didn't create the one way system that made him late.

What an absurd argument. The pupils don't create any of the rules or systems in the school, but they have to follow them nonetheless.

OP, I would tell your son to get on with it, serve his punishment, and then get back to school with a fresh attitude. You don't want him to miss out on any more valuable lesson time where he can learn important things like punctuation (for example).

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QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:04

Snorlaxo · 29/01/2025 23:44

You’ve clearly picked a school that has very strict discipline rules.

What did you and your son think would happen when he skipped detentions? They were obviously going up rapidly escalate the punishment. Isn’t there a behaviour policy where the escalation has been explained? School has to escalate if a student skips detention because it will rapidly escalate into kids not caring about getting detentions and doing as they please.

One way systems are very common in schools after Covid. If everyone struggled to get to class on time you’d have a point, but presumably everybody else who had the same lesson beforehand managed it so that’s not the case. Are you sure that he went straight to his next class? Punishment for being late is reasonable because the teacher has to crack on with the lesson and finish on time.

Is this one of those super strict schools where kids aren’t allowed to talk to each other at lunch etc? If it is, then you and your son should have known to suck up the first detention because they weren’t going to let it go. It sounds like you support your son’s actions and think that the excuses like migraine are acceptable to get out of internal exclusion. If you don’t support the school rules why did you send him back there after he school refused in the past ?

No this isn't one of the strict schools the new rule was just put in place the same week as the five minutes rule and the teacher sent 9 other children out of the class

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L0bstersLass · 30/01/2025 00:07

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:04

No this isn't one of the strict schools the new rule was just put in place the same week as the five minutes rule and the teacher sent 9 other children out of the class

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And your son feels he's above the rules why exactly?
I get the impression you're supporting him, which is a massive error.
Who the hell does he think he is? He needs to suck it up an learn from his mistakes.

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QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:07

The reason for not using correct punctuation and grammar is it's the internet you don't have to FML

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QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:07

And you think these punishments are totally fair do you?

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QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:10

Not made up lol just cba to use punctuation as not needed on the internet

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Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 00:11

TitusMoan · 29/01/2025 22:49

OP. Do you remember having to write in sentences and use full stops when you were at school? They really help with making your posts easy to read and easy to understand.

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She missed that lesson, she was late for it.

Greyish2025 · 30/01/2025 00:12

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:07

And you think these punishments are totally fair do you?

Well he refused to do the detention, so yes

What if all kids refused to do detention, the school would have no control

Your son needs to learn that he needs to comply with rules / laws otherwise you are potentially raising a future jail bird…..

Do you not agree with complying with rules / laws?

crumblingschools · 30/01/2025 00:13

@QuickAzureJoker you need to check the legality of open ended suspension

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QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:14

He was given a 90 minute detention

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Greyish2025 · 30/01/2025 00:14

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:10

Not made up lol just cba to use punctuation as not needed on the internet

Why do you think punctuation is not needed on the internet?

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 00:15

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:10

Not made up lol just cba to use punctuation as not needed on the internet

You can’t be arsed to use full stops? Wow. What do you do with all the extra time you save by never including commas or full stops? It makes your post so hard to understand.

Babyghirl · 30/01/2025 00:15

Sorry op but covering up for him now makes for bigger problems down the line.

L0bstersLass · 30/01/2025 00:15

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:07

And you think these punishments are totally fair do you?

Yes I do.
The punishment has been ramped up due to disobedience which I think is fair.

worcesterpear · 30/01/2025 00:17

I don't know op's situation, but having a child that went to one of these ultra strict rules (that changed into one after having sent her to it) I wouldn't be so quick to defend them as some of the posters are. Is it fair to get a detention if the school bus is late, or if there are unexpected delays on the journey? Do children going to private schools get similar detentions? Is this the best way to motivate children to attend school who may be reluctant to in the first place!

InfoSecInTheCity · 30/01/2025 00:21

"he was 5 minutes late to school as he has to follow a one way system which makes it take longer to get to his particular class so he showed up minutes late "

It would have taken him as long as it took everyone else to navigate the system. If anyone arrived to class on time then all of them could have done. This isn't a valid excuse.

"refused to do the 1:30 detention as he said was unfair and over the top for one time lateness......so when the day came last Thursday he refused.......As he refused to go and do the all day sanction he was suspended and is still suspended until further notice"

He had the opportunity to have this over and done with in an hour and a half. He chose not to do that and was issued a consequence, he chose not to do that too so his consequence was increased.

"does anyone know what to do to get it removed or put in a complaint to chance the rules"

If they do not adhere to their policy for him, then they can't enforce it for anyone.

CherryVanillaPie · 30/01/2025 00:21

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:04

No this isn't one of the strict schools the new rule was just put in place the same week as the five minutes rule and the teacher sent 9 other children out of the class

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Ok, it sounds like there is a problem with lateness that the school are trying to crack down on if a third of the class turned up late. How is the teacher meant to introduce the lesson if a third aren't there? Your ds should have just done the first detention and resolved not to be late again rather than being defiant

ilovesooty · 30/01/2025 00:23

I rather suspect you've made excuses for him and enabled his defiance throughout his time at school.

SwordToFlamethrower · 30/01/2025 00:30

Jeez I'm so glad I'm home educating. Schools are shit holes

MumWifeOther · 30/01/2025 00:33

The system is so broken. Programming kids to become robots 🤢

SwordToFlamethrower · 30/01/2025 00:34

MumWifeOther · 30/01/2025 00:33

The system is so broken. Programming kids to become robots 🤢

Mindless, obedient tesla robots yes

AmiablePedant · 30/01/2025 00:42

QuickAzureJoker · 30/01/2025 00:10

Not made up lol just cba to use punctuation as not needed on the internet

Oddly the BBC, the Guardian, the Times, the Independent and even (holds nose) the Daily Mail think that it is! It actually makes one's writing easier to understand, clearer, and perhaps a little more persuasive. As you'll have gathered, you are not a very persuasive writer.

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