Private and state school pupils’ GCSE results are now the same, study finds

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IrisOlympia · 23/11/2024 20:03

Interesting new study - thoughts?

www.theguardian.com/education/2024/nov/21/private-and-state-school-pupils-gcse-results-are-now-the-same-study-finds

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SweetSakura · 02/01/2025 16:55

Expectperspect · 02/01/2025 14:35

Extremely untrue in London and most of South East England i imagine. Unless you're comparing super selective state grammars to an average or lower tier private. Just look at your local schools' published results and %7-9 etc.

The local private schools perform considerably less well academically than our (non selective) local state school. (We are in the SE)

MrsSunshine2b · 02/01/2025 17:08

Travellingheavily · 23/11/2024 20:52

You lack imagination.

Would you expect a child with Downs Syndrome to pass? What about a child with PTSD who has no English? Or what about a child that has huge meltdowns because they can’t cope? All of these children and more are in State Classes. Your school will filter out, but it doesn’t make your teachers ‘better’.

That said my point is more that just one child has a huge impact on data, you seemed shocked at c60%. That’s just 2 kids in many schools

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I'm really confused as to how 2/30 is equal to 34%.

Mepop · 02/01/2025 19:19

GildedRage · 01/01/2025 23:02

part of the problem that i have with the data is it doesn't measure things like mental health and wellbeing.
with so much school refusal and anxiety predominant in teens maybe measuring state vs independent on parameters other than grades would be of interest.
again the uk has such a variety of schools, a small rural secondary might very well compare to an independent if the environment is personal and nurturing and what one teacher might lack with regards to math or physics can be compensated for with online learning.
i've said it many times on mn, i would never send a child of mine to a gated or strict school regardless of the grades.

education is life long and a young person with decent grades, and a love of learning will go much further in their long term education.
but a traumatized youth who hates school and refuses to ever set foot in an "institution" again is a loss to a much wider community.

I guess lots of people don’t have a choice. The local schools are just strict (or not) and they have no other option but to send their kids there. The state schools in my area admit kids based on how far they live from the school, so the only option if you do not like the local school and cannot afford private (and get your child a place - all our local private schools are selective) then you have to move. For most people that just is not feasible.

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