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Y11 2023/24 thread 5 - results!

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Techno56 · 21/07/2024 12:10

New thread as no 4 is nearly full

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MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 21:29

Panic71 · 22/08/2024 21:26

Do you know when they introduced reviews as opposed to remarks?

2018 rings a bell

AIstolemylunch · 22/08/2024 21:34

When i said the school did it, I meant the school had already flagged that it was worth sending for review for the clerical error one, the one away and the three away. He still had to fill out and sign the pink forms, which they helped him with. And I still have to pay for the review for the 2 v close ones (not the clerical error one), to be refunded if they go up (£78 per subject).

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 21:36

Totallynotpushy · 22/08/2024 21:24

Thank you, do you know why they don't put the mark for English Language?

Just trying to understand the results slip.

There is a score for every other subject. I'm looking at how close ds was to the higher/lower grade out of interest/for A level purposes.

It won't fit: there are too many sets of data.

Zubomama · 22/08/2024 21:37

School is backing up three reviews of marking for DS - they are 3 or 2 marks below boundary. In English I would say remarks are worth it. I've heard of people who got improved grades in English through remarks. Having said that we got 2 papers remarked in the past for DD and they didn't yield any improvement. Good luck everyone.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 22/08/2024 21:58

Just catching up this evening and see the comments about AQA English. DS’s worst mark is a 6 for Eng Lang AQA was predicted a 9. Most of his close friends also 5s and 6s with 9s predicted (grammar school and a very bright group of friends with all 9s and 8s otherwise). I don’t think the school has seen such a low set of grades for this subject ever. Nothing new in the exam that the teachers don’t know how to teach. Very, very odd.

Love2dance8 · 22/08/2024 22:01

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 22/08/2024 21:58

Just catching up this evening and see the comments about AQA English. DS’s worst mark is a 6 for Eng Lang AQA was predicted a 9. Most of his close friends also 5s and 6s with 9s predicted (grammar school and a very bright group of friends with all 9s and 8s otherwise). I don’t think the school has seen such a low set of grades for this subject ever. Nothing new in the exam that the teachers don’t know how to teach. Very, very odd.

This happened last year as I remember on last year's Yr 11 thread. The children who were predicted 9s got much lower than expected and the kids predicted low got better. For example my ds was predicted a 4 but got a 7.

Love2dance8 · 22/08/2024 22:03

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 18:20

Also AQA and a lots of disappointed students expecting 8/9s but got 5s.

Particularly odd as my DD got a 5 in Lang and not expected at all, we were hoping to scrape a 4 and yet her friends who are really good at English and planning to study at A-level got the same grade.

Just read this and messaged above. It happened last year too.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 22/08/2024 22:11

Sorry I meant Eng Lit for DS but language also bad among friends.

@Love2dance8 yes I remember hearing about unexpected poor results last year although not specifically within DSs school. Dropping from a 9 to a 5 or 6 is a huge change which definitely feels like something odd has happened.

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 22:24

Love2dance8 · 22/08/2024 22:03

Just read this and messaged above. It happened last year too.

It is really strange. I'm not putting my DD down, but her and I know where her abilities lie.

In all mocks the best result she got was a high three, a five is dream level for us. There is no way she is at the same level as her friends that consistently got 8/9s in mocks.

WhereAreWeNow · 22/08/2024 22:30

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 20:31

Wow. Your school must have more money than mine!!

DD's school is the same (and they really don't have any money!). I think it's all papers where the grade is 2 marks from the boundary automatically get sent for review. School pays.

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 22:33

I thought the review was no longer looking for missed marks?

MamOfTwo · 22/08/2024 22:33

How do reviews work? DD two marks off a grade for English Lit and teacher mentioned it. She still got a good mark though so not sure if it is worth it. Could the mark go down as well as up? And then you have to accept the lower mark? Does the review see the paper marked again from scratch or does a new marker review the original marker's marks? (Clumsily phrased but hopefully you get what I mean!)

DD happy and got what she needed. Well done to all the young people of folk on this thread - whether they got a string of 9s or hard-fought for 4s.

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 22:35

ASongbirdAndAnOldHat · 22/08/2024 22:33

I thought the review was no longer looking for missed marks?

It isn't unless it's a clerical error - like a section being missed

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 22:37

How do reviews work? DD two marks off a grade for English Lit and teacher mentioned it. She still got a good mark though so not sure if it is worth it. Could the mark go down as well as up? And then you have to accept the lower mark?

Yes it can and there's no grade protection.

Does the review see the paper marked again from scratch or does a new marker review the original marker's marks? (Clumsily phrased but hopefully you get what I mean!)

The reviewer checks the original marking to make sure it's reasonable. That's an OFQUAL term, incidentally. Reviews have to follow OFQUAL rules. We're not looking for extra marks.

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 22:38

WhereAreWeNow · 22/08/2024 22:30

DD's school is the same (and they really don't have any money!). I think it's all papers where the grade is 2 marks from the boundary automatically get sent for review. School pays.

That's mind boggling. Potentially thousands of pounds.

Aproductofmyera80s · 22/08/2024 22:44

DS 16 only passed English language.
got a u for maths. We expected a low grade for maths as he absolutely despises it and struggles massively. Me and DP don’t believe kids on the spectrum or various other SEN students, should have to sit exams if they don’t want to, if he was graded on his portfolios he’d have got 5/6’s across the board. it’s massively stressful environment for them, as it is for other students. DS walked out of 2 of his exams as he got very overwhelmed and stressed. His life is routine and every single exam started late, which then meant they finished late. he said the exam invigilators kept talking too much. He was very anxious, very overwhelmed. We are proud of him no matter what, for a while we didn’t even think he was going to sit any exams as he was so stressed. we know what he is capable of, he could school me on many topics, just because kids don’t pass from a range of topics they’ve been told they have to learn, the are more than thier grades, they don’t show who you are. DS can tell you everything about abandoned places, natural disaster, the titanic, the history of alton towers, the reign of hitler. He can show you how to fix computers, he can produce algorithms, he has an appetite for creative media, when based only on his work he did on his own time, the course leader was so impressed, the college gave him a place straight away. I know he will never work in a customer focused job, any job he gets will have to be either in an office with very few people or from home because he hates strangers. Or talking to people in general.
these kids get told GCSEs are so important and the pressure put on them is immense. This years year 11 were year 7 when covid it, they missed out on 8 months of education, the basics of high school. The stuff you learn to set you up for the GCSEs.

TFthatsover · 22/08/2024 22:44

My DS who has ASD / ADHD has passed his AQA Entry Level 3 Certificate in Maths, English literature and language and double science and is off to college. While these aren't GCSE's, they are formal qualifications and I'm so proud of him. He has come so far and has worked his socks off.

The very last thing the head from his old mainstream school said to us before DS moved to his special school in Year 7 was "he won't be a credit to any school, he's unlikely to get any qualifications". Well he has, and I'm very tempted to march into his office in September and tell him he was wrong.

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2024 22:48

Well he has, and I'm very tempted to march into his office in September and tell him he was wrong.

You should. People with attitudes like that shouldn't be in education.

Well done to your son. That's brilliant news.

TFthatsover · 22/08/2024 22:51

Thanks @MrsHamlet, it's still all sinking in.

Messen · 22/08/2024 22:54

@TFthatsover that is absolutely awful behavior from the previous school. The person who said that should be ashamed. Well done to your son for getting into college and getting qualifications.

Messen · 22/08/2024 22:57

My DS has SEND but different profile and blew his predicted grades right out of the water. He was flabbergasted. But then, he worked like a dog. It’s so good for them when really hard work pays off.

OhNoBumblesStolenAToy · 22/08/2024 23:28

DS did well with marks and has got through to his choice of college.

He was 3 marks off a 4 for English Lit and his teacher advised to go for a review (and got his permission). He got 6s in his mocks and came out of the exam thinking he had done well (even told his teacher that on the day).

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 23:39

DramaLlamaBangBang · 22/08/2024 20:43

DS did Aqa and was expecting 7's for English language and lit but got 5's. Massive shock. He was consistently getting 6's and 7's in mocks and essays. Also a bit pissed off with the school as he requested to be put up to higher in Spanish but they basically gave him the higher paper with no notice then said he wasn't good enough, but he got 90% over all 3 foundation papers so maximum grade 5. It's only because I looked at the maths we looked at all the other grade boundaries. Loads of kids haven't got into his school sixth form when they expected to.

It's so upsetting for them, they are significant differences. I don't understand how there is such a difference, esp when they are consistently getting high grades in mocks and also across all other subjects. With DS being ND his grades go from 3-7 as it just depends on so many factors for him so nothing would be a massive surprise really grades wise.

DS was predicted a 5 in lit but was always told it would be more of a target on a good day, he got that in mocks but was more likely to get a 4 being realistic. To miss the 4 by a mark is disappointing but he's fine about it. He had such a wonderful teacher I am disappointed for her also, she really got him and was amazing at dealing with his issues.

It's a nightmare for those missing out on the A level courses they want due to these discrepancies.

PugInTheHouse · 22/08/2024 23:42

@TFthatsover how amazing for your DS, congratulations. But what awful behaviour from the previous school.

Butwhybecause · 22/08/2024 23:51

TFthatsover · 22/08/2024 22:44

My DS who has ASD / ADHD has passed his AQA Entry Level 3 Certificate in Maths, English literature and language and double science and is off to college. While these aren't GCSE's, they are formal qualifications and I'm so proud of him. He has come so far and has worked his socks off.

The very last thing the head from his old mainstream school said to us before DS moved to his special school in Year 7 was "he won't be a credit to any school, he's unlikely to get any qualifications". Well he has, and I'm very tempted to march into his office in September and tell him he was wrong.

Well he has, and I'm very tempted to march into his office in September and tell him he was wrong.

Yes, do.

One English teacher told my DD she was a waste of space.

Guess what DD does now?

Teaches English.

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