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Attending a Catholic School as a non-practicing Catholic

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KateBlush · 28/02/2021 13:26

My DD is highly likely to be allocated a place a Catholic Girls School tomorrow. I'm interested in what her day-to-day experience might be like for non-practicing pupil.

From school visits and communication coming out of the school, its catholic culture seems pretty all-pervading. DH is catholic (I'm Anglican) and our children are baptised catholic, but religion is not part of our daily lives and if pushed, we both feel pretty negative about the church. It's an 'outstanding' school and academically very strong. It's also unapologetically old-fashioned - combined with the faith factor this worries me a bit - might this be a potentially stifling environment for a non-catholic?

Do any of you have children at faith schools where the faith is not a determining factor for you - how do your children fare? Do they feel excluded in any way? Does it feature in every part of their school experience? Thank you.

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KateBlush · 03/03/2021 10:41

Sorry - in response to @tigresswoods - did we baptise our children because we wanted a party?

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Jackparlabane · 03/03/2021 11:11

Leaving aside the 'should religious state schools exist' debate, Catholic schools vary hugely.

20 years ago the Catholic schools near me (London) were the ones that were undersubscribed, with attendees being working-class Irish families, traveller kids and those who were new to the area and didn't know how to apply to other schools. Some were good schools but not seen as desirable.

Then loads of Poles with some other Eastern Europeans and Portuguese and Brazilian families arrived, making all schools oversubscribed but particularly the Catholic ones. Then there was a dip as many of the Polish families didn't want their child in an all-Polish class so didn't apply for Catholic schools - now there's more of a mix and the families generally speak English so that's less of a driver. But it does mean the Catholic schools are 100% Catholic, with the only exceptions being those with an EHCP.

I considered one Catholic school for ds - it's our nearest secondary, the only one in walking distance, has an excellent reputation for SEN and generally - but he would be the only non-Catholic in his year. Which would make him stand out to the other kids, even before he gets into arguments about why Greek myths are better than Christian ones, and would be obvious to all the parents and staff that he has SEN.

I wonder if the people complaining about non-practicing Catholics 'depriving' Catholic kids of places would complain about kids with EHCPs who do fulfil the admission criteria?

I decided against, because I predicted ds being in constant arguments with staff, and there was an excellent school he wanted to go to slightly further away. If however it was a Catholic school in my home town where only 2/3 the kids are from Catholic families and only half of them are practising (large Irish community the school was built for is much smaller now), then I'd have considered it if it was a good school.

Some Catholic schools do teach about contraception, abortion, other religions in a neutral way after the obligatory mention of the Church view. Others don't. Depends way more on the individual teachers than the religion of the school.

ScrabbleOriginal · 03/03/2021 11:13

it seems harsh to expect any 11 year old to go and be a sacrificial lamb for the sake of maybe having the courage to confront the indoctrination in front of all their classmates and teacher. Would have to be quite a kid! A better outcome would be if the country stopped funding faith schools as they are divisive and do more harm than good.

@Biscuitsneeded I do recommend you read the whole thread, otherwise people will need to repeat themselves to answer those points. It's important you understand the reason why some non-religious people choose these schools, and that is all covered in detail, as are the reasons why they are unlikely to be abolished any time soon.

Wondermule · 03/03/2021 11:24

I wonder if the people complaining about non-practicing Catholics 'depriving' Catholic kids of places would complain about kids with EHCPs who do fulfil the admission criteria?

Nobody in this thread has objected to places being obtained honestly, least of all those applying with SEN.

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