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Which is best for Engineering Degree 3 A levels or 4?

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S0upVat · 12/01/2020 16:44

Ds def doing Maths,Further Maths and Physics. He’s toying with chemistry too. He’s bright and should get 8/9s in these subjects but a tad fly by the seat of his pants, leave it all until the last minute ie not a swot. Would it be better to focus on 3 to get more chance of As? Ie are 3 strong better than 4 weaker? He’s supposed to do a project if not doing a 4th. Any ideas of something that would help with Engineering applications?

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S0upVat · 12/01/2020 16:45

Doing Gold DofE, mooting the idea of that Crest thing.

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Ami01 · 12/01/2020 17:05

They used to count top 3, but if he can get top grades in all 4 of those not a bad thing. Adding Chemistry will also give him option to go for Medicine should he want to change his mind.

He sounds bright enough to handle 4 then should give it a try.

TheFrendo · 12/01/2020 17:05

What will help with his application will be good predicted grades and deeper subject knowledge. DoE etc. not useful for applications.

M/Fm/Phys & Chemistry is a really good combination.

Hercwasonaroll · 12/01/2020 17:06

Focus on 3 if he won't/doesn't work hard. A Levels are a big step up.

MrsEricBana · 12/01/2020 17:13

I'm not sure that maths & FM count as 2. DEFINITELY do FM for engineering as Oxford, Imperial, Bristol etc. seem to really like it even though they don't state it as a requirement. In your shoes I'd suggest M, FM, physics and chemistry. If further maths didn't come into it then 3 strong results better than 4 weaker results at A level.

MrsEricBana · 12/01/2020 17:14

Plus if he starts with those 4 he can always drop one later.

S0upVat · 12/01/2020 17:16

Pretty sure further maths is counted as a separate Alevel.

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Ami01 · 12/01/2020 17:20

Yes agree, further maths is not just another A level but an extremely strong choice and will reflect not just now but for a long time, the subjects get more intense and demanding from A level maths.

S0upVat · 12/01/2020 17:21

But would poss 3 As be better than say AABB?

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Annebronte · 12/01/2020 17:34

Further Maths needs to be a fourth. He sounds bright, so should be fine. Those are a strong four for engineering. If he can manage the Further Maths too, it will definitely give him a more competitive application.

Ami01 · 12/01/2020 17:36

Difficult to say AABB can easily become AAAB or even AAAA....as possible as AAA becoming AAB

If the child is capable and willing to go for it, then 4 a levels wont be a problem, depends on quality of teachers too.

Ami01 · 12/01/2020 17:38

Just so you know further maths is probably the hardest A level, so they need to be really ready and motivated to do well in this.
Harder than further Maths and is additional further maths (which very few schools even offer).

Curiousmum69 · 12/01/2020 17:39

My Ds started with those 4 but has now dropped chemistry.

He has several good AAB offers with just the 3. He's enjoying it much more

noblegiraffe · 12/01/2020 17:40

They advise getting top grades in 3 rather than lesser grades in 4.

TheGirlFromStoryville · 12/01/2020 17:43

Dd did 3 (phys, chem, maths) plus EPQ - though Imperial didn't take EPQ into account.

ListeningQuietly · 12/01/2020 17:44

Further Maths needs to be a fourth
no it does not.

3 high grades are better than four middling ones.

Now that all A levels are linear top marks are getting harder to get again.

Maths, Further Maths, Physics is a very common combination that opens doors to LOTS of courses

including Imperial, Cambridge and other top science / engineering Unis

titchy · 12/01/2020 17:45

Start with 4, drop one at the end of lower sixth. Definitely don't take 4 in the second year unless he has a dramatic turnaround in learning style!

S0upVat · 12/01/2020 17:57

Great, good to know. He’s your typical Engineer but hard to make the decision. Loves all 4 and will do v well at GCSE but it’s a big step up. Getting by with the minimum won’t cut it for Alevel and worried he‘ll become a cropper.

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repsullden · 12/01/2020 18:10

It's A A in Maths and Physics and another A for Imperial. A*AA for places like Southampton so definitely go for three: Maths, FM, Physics.

Trewser · 12/01/2020 18:28

But would poss 3 As be better than say AABB?

Yes 3 As would be preferable to AABB.

ListeningQuietly · 12/01/2020 18:53

It's A A in Maths and Physics and another A for Imperial. A*AA for places like Southampton so definitely go for three: Maths, FM, Physics.
Offers maybe
but admission data are another story

please do not scare the OP
3 decent A levels in the monster subjects open all the doors

WhyAmIPayingFees · 12/01/2020 19:01

Look at the complete university guide for the points scores of candidates who have been successfully admitted to courses of interest. Just doing three will make you a below average applicant at top unis for competitive courses. Ignore the typical offer info. They are the minimum acceptable standard for a candidate the uni has decided they want and are often at the bottom if what is being achieved.

Trewser · 12/01/2020 19:05

Just doing three will make you a below average applicant at top unis for competitive courses

This is 110% bollocks.

ListeningQuietly · 12/01/2020 19:09

Look at the complete university guide for the points scores of candidates who have been successfully admitted to courses of interest.
and
Just doing three will make you a below average applicant at top unis for competitive courses
Mutually exclusive / contradictory comments, one of which is utter bilge

ListeningQuietly · 12/01/2020 19:11

Point scores are a STUPID number to look at
because they include loads of stuff that the admissions team took less than no notice of
Grade 8 trumpet with distinction = 80 UCAS points
do Southampton Mech Eng give a stuff Hmm Of course not.

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