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GCSEs 2018 (18) Well that's all over, let's get the party started

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Stickerrocks · 23/08/2018 14:17

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/3341060-GCSEs-2018-17-What-will-be-in-your-coffee-cup-on-Thursday

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Twinplusone · 25/08/2018 14:24

BlueBelle123

Thanks for thinking about my DD

My DM just arrived, report in later x

Oneteen · 25/08/2018 14:49

Bluebelle Your DS's work ethos is excellent and I am sure he will do well no matter what school he attends....

I just had a look at the results of the two other schools within DD's Trust (all in same town). The CoEd which is oversubscribed and difficult to get into (dd's school gets the rejects) had the weakest results (I dare say some of the girls that were leaving the girls school to join the Coed 6th form maybe doing a quick retreat back). The boys school results were good but still weaker than the girls school...

BlueBelle123 · 25/08/2018 14:59

Oneteen thank you, that's what I'm banking on.

I have to say you seem to have struck gold with your DD's school it seems to get great results but still have their well being as the number one priority, she should certainly flourish in such an environment Smile

PeggyIsInTheNarrative · 25/08/2018 15:02

Bluebelle ime there is some more fluidity in friendship groups in 6th form. Unless your old mates are doing exactly the sane subjects as you then you should get to talk to people in your classes with similar aspirations. I imagine most kids in further maths are aiming high.
Maybe have a look at uni outreach courses for the very able?

BlueBelle123 · 25/08/2018 15:08

Probably why maths teacher was glaring at DS he is not doing Further maths, as he wants to do medicine. I'm also hoping that some new people that join might click with DS, I've already told him to make sure he talks to them so they feel welcomed Smile

PeggyIsInTheNarrative · 25/08/2018 15:17

OK there will be other med school/pharmacy/engineering/science hopefuls in his science A level classes I guessing?
School should be helping them get to events at local med school.

PeggyIsInTheNarrative · 25/08/2018 15:24

Sost the Sri Lanka teaching experience sounds fab. Ordinary work experience and volunteering can be good too.

People may want to have a look at this mostly good AMA thread (apart from usual bit of mn bickering not from the OP)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/AMA/3304176-Im-a-university-admissions-tutor-make-decisions-about-who-to-give-offers-to-AMA?pg=1&order=

My understanding is what is valued on an application does depend somewhat on which uni and which course. Some Oxbridge courses are mainly interested in passion for your subject. Other courses will want to see other experiences.

Oneteen · 25/08/2018 15:52

Peggy I thought about your DD last night and remembered what stickerrocks replied to me when I was so concerned because my DD was unmotivated and doing the bare minimum...she said you cannot take away a persons intelligence they will always have that...so even if your DD does have the results she deserves that doesnt change what she is capable of ...I remember a very wise manager of mine - saying to me - you are capable of anything as long as you put your mind to it.

Bluebelle - I do feel fortunate that we actually found a school that DD could flourish at even if it took several attempts to get there. I dont think I mentioned on here but it was DD's 5th school.(I think most DC's have 1 change)..she was incredibly badly bullied several times (geeky/quirky) spent many days on what we may remember as the friendship bench...but whilst there were so many unhappy days and sleepless nights its blended DD into a compassionate thoughtful girl. DD's friends dad said to me on results day that I had an amazing delightful daughter and for me its lovely to see her finally having some self worth,motivation and believe in herself....I'm hoping the rocky road is over!

Stickerrocks · 25/08/2018 16:11

We have a result as far as field trips are concerned. Maths and English Language don't have any. History goes to Germany, but DD did that 18 months ago.

Oneteen so someone does listen to me sometimes! I'm touched.

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ReservoirDogs · 25/08/2018 16:33

So talking of trips DS school does a joint Economics and History trip to Washington, Philadelphia and New York!

PeggyIsInTheNarrative · 25/08/2018 16:51

Oneteen thank you for the kind thoughts and thank you Stickerrocks for your wise recycled words.

I think I am still getting my head around the DC learning in a different way to me. FFS I should be getting the hang of it now. And of course they need different types of support. Of course. Come on Peggy. Get with the programme.

I have another chance to be prepared and not surprised with DC4. DH thinks it’s cool that if any of our grandchildren are neurodiverse we will be ready this time Grin

cubscout · 25/08/2018 17:12

Flowers for you Ggirl - so horrible to think of our children feeling like failures. It's probably no help but I only achieved 6 O levels back in the day, 3xB and 3xC. However, I have gone on to a First Class Hons and an Msc and a very respectable professional career. Some of us blossom at different times, different subjects and in different ways.

Ds is staying at his school for 6th form and is not changing his subjects (Maths Further Maths Physics and Geog). Geog have a field trip to Iceland but in general the school is very sensible about affordable trips although this year the Philosophy and Ethics group are trying to swing a new York trip! maths - they just get a few days out.

I think peer group is imortant, but probably less so the older they get and the more they know what it is they want to do. ds mixes with a wide group with varying aspirations but he has always had a very clear idea of his own wishes. He once turned round to a boy calling him some 'swotty' name or other in Year 7 and said 'why wouldn't I want to go to uni and get a great job?' which (amazingly) shut that one up! He has gone through school continuing to be himself and for that I am very very proud. Not one of his friends expressed surprise over his 9x9's and even the less able/aspirational kids have been lovely to him. I think the key is to find a school where the dc is happy and then they will flouish. We very much went against the grain and turned down a private offer and a superselective offer in Y7 for the local comprehensive where ds thought he would be happiest (and tbh we felt to was also a good 'fit' for him) and the risk paid off.

whistl · 25/08/2018 17:22

So many of your DC are doing 4 A levels. Is anyone just doing 3?

JugglingFromHereToThere · 25/08/2018 17:22

What do you all think of DS doing Music, Maths, and Theatre Studies forA level choices?
He plays trumpet (grade 8 and in various bands) and keen to pursue this in future plans.
He got his best mark (a 7) in Maths
He'd like to do Theatre Studies to go with these, and several friends are choosing this too - think he would enjoy the experience
School queried it slightly as he got a 5 for Drama. But drama teacher has confirmed he is happy for DS to progress to A level course.
Other option considered is Physics instead of Theatre Studies ( would go well with Maths)
Have talked it over with DD and she feels TS will be good and more enjoyable for DS.
Am thinking of all the skills Theatre Studies will develop, and telling myself it's a bit like a more practical English Literature.
Quite like the doing a bit of everything aspect too of a broad choice of subjects

Sorry for the in depth analysis! Just feels like quite a big decision choosing these - which will take them one way or the other going forwards .....

  • Sciences or Arts?!
I think DS has already confirmed choice with them, as have I really! Maybe just hoping for some reassurance, but all thoughts welcome!
KickBishopBrennanUpTheArse · 25/08/2018 17:35

Whistl yes dd is doing 3. Maths, computer science and geography.

She toyed with FM for a while but has decided not to. She felt she'd fill up her timetable too much and she's already got a long commute to new city centre SFC.

Stickerrocks · 25/08/2018 17:42

DD is only going to take maths, history & Eng Language. Her 6th form will let them take 4, but she's decided to do properly with the EPQ, especially as her 4th choice is also wordy. It would only have been worth taking 4 if she was taking maths & further maths to broaden her subjects.

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Stickerrocks · 25/08/2018 17:46

Only take physics if you enjoy problem solving and love maths. Theatre studies will develop analytical skills and critical thinking.

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cubscout · 25/08/2018 17:48

whistl only dc taking Further Maths do 4 at ds school, other kids with high APS do 3 plus EPQ but the majority do 3. They timetable FM to surpport the kids wanting to do Maths/Physics/Engineering/Natural Science, all of which need either FM or a booster course in 1st year at University if FM not available.

PeggyIsInTheNarrative · 25/08/2018 17:56

Juggling Maybe not either or?
Cardiff university offer this:

www.cardiff.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2019/music-and-mathematics-ba

JugglingFromHereToThere · 25/08/2018 17:58

Thanks, I think there is quite a lot to be said for the broader choice, with opportunities to develop a variety of skills.

Probably enough maths and logical thinking in Maths itself, without adding the Physics ( though I quite enjoyed Physics A level myself and don't remember it being that mathsy)

Oneteen · 25/08/2018 17:59

Juggling - I think its a case of balance of doing what he likes but also thinking of employment too...so perhaps look what he needs for the next stage be it work or Uni.

DD doing three A levels - all sciences and an EPQ...I think with work/volunteering etc the balance should be OK.

Need DD to try on uniform just to make sure it fits (although jacket needs a couple of darts at the back) I managed to get some Dr Marten shoes that actually fit and they look sturdy enough to last a little while (piccy)

GCSEs 2018 (18) Well that's all over, let's get the party started
JugglingFromHereToThere · 25/08/2018 18:05

And thanks, that's an interesting link Peggy.
Shows that his subjects could combine in various ways for a joint degree.

Cblue · 25/08/2018 18:05

@whistl - they start with 4 (5 if they do FM). Then they drop one at Xmas once they have had a term's experience.

So in the end they have 3 or 4 with the 4th being FM. Unless it's for an exceptional reason.

If they go the FM route they do an accelerated ordinary maths in the first year (and often take the exam) then they do FM in the last year.

Unis are very clear they want 3 good A Levels rather than lots of Bs and Cs unless the 4th A Level is FM which they ask for in engineering, computer science, maths degrees etc.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 25/08/2018 18:08

Am quite looking forward to going to the school shop to get DS a new blazer for sixth form ( inspite of the expense! )

ReservoirDogs · 25/08/2018 18:28

Yes DS starts with 4 but they drop to 3 either at Christmas or the end of year 12. It is chance to see whether they can cope with the step up in certain harder subjects or even like subjects they may never have done before.