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GCSEs 2018 (12) Are we nearly there yet?!

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mmzz · 08/06/2018 12:40

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 11/06/2018 20:21

Hateisnotgood your DS is on a similar track to my 18yo DS2. He's finishing a level 3 BTEC in IT/computing and has ASD. His C in English was his most important GCSE result!

Just a word of warning, no idea what your college will be like but DS2 has been allowed to cruise, not been pushed at all and treated very much like an independent young adult. Unfortunately he's not. He did OK in Y12, slightly disappointing and got an unconditional offer to do an HNC next year based on his Y12 results. He has taken this to mean no work is needed this year. Your DS may be much more self motivated, but just in case...

ReservoirDogs · 11/06/2018 20:23

So i asked for it and here is mine:

DS3 doing Igcses

DS2 at uni reading Geography
DS1 through uni Sport Science and working for 3 years

DS3 at superselective

Staying on for 6th Form

Probable A levels Maths, Economics, History, Geography

DS bit of a party boy (but has refrained since Easter due to revision), sporty, has part time job, off to Reading Festival on results day!

EllenJanethickerknickers · 11/06/2018 20:23

I think the MN term is 'spreadshits!' Wink

KingscoteStaff · 11/06/2018 20:24

Kingscote Junior signing in for spreadsheet duty..

DC doing GCSEs: __ DS
Other DC: DD in Yr 9 (Hello to all 2020ers!)
A level intentions: __ History, English, Philosophy + Politics
Current school: __ Selective Independent
Sixth form: Staying at school (hopefully!)
Other info: Cricketer, Racketser, Cellist, Electric Bassist. Being worryingly nice at the moment but I'm pretty sure it's a cover for something dreadful.
Last exam: ___ Physics on Friday

EllenJanethickerknickers · 11/06/2018 20:26

It's a mixed bag but, as always on MN, lots of DC with SN or SEN. It's why I first came to MN. Lots of information and support that is sometimes hard to find in RL.

TheThirdOfHerName · 11/06/2018 20:33

When DS2 was about to start secondary school in 2013, he was not as high functioning as he is now, and I was really worried about how he would cope.

I remember reading a 'Help! My child with SEN is about to start secondary school" support thread from the year before. EllenJane and other posters had articulated my fears and concerns and others had offered advice. It made the whole thing seem more manageable.

Sostenueto · 11/06/2018 20:36

Well helping each other is a great thing!

Nettleskeins · 11/06/2018 20:38

Third I'm amazed that ds2 has coped so well with Gsces with his ASD; like you starting secondary was very fraught, in our case we had to take ds out of school for two years in the middle of it. But he is back and happy and organised, maturity is so important.

I don't think I can face doing a spreadsheet tor ds2. He's a character for certain, but plus ca change as they say, and I'm not quite sure what he is good at, it is constantly morphing! I suspect he'll end up as a statistician, so unmathematical does he appear at present...

mmzz · 11/06/2018 20:39

I remember being anxious about DS1 going to secondary school back in 2013. I went to hand in some forms and saw a pregnant girl coming through the gates. Then a group of 6ft, bearded sixth formers came out and got into a car with one of them driving!
Compared to DS's small primary school with the wide eyed reception children holding hands as they came into the assemblies, I thought I'd entered some sort if alternate universe. Now the same secondary school seems like a safe haven from the world.

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Stickerrocks · 11/06/2018 20:42

I was always the FT working mum & never really became friends with the school gate crowd. The few that I am friends with have DC on a very different wavelength to mine, so it's impossible to compare notes on how the exams are going, which 6th form etc because it all ends up sounding competitive. In my own family, I have DN1 who left school without a single GCSE through no fault of his own and DN2 with life threatening SN. DD is Girl Wonder educationally by comparison. Meanwhile on here we are all normal through our differences, if you see what I mean, with the dance crowd mixing with the spreadsheet/maths geeks, the K-pop fans blend in with the cricketers and so on. It's all rather lovely.

PeggySchuylar · 11/06/2018 20:43

DC doing GCSEs: __DD3
Other DC:DD1 just finished uni about to start work. DD2 apprentice. DS y7.
A level intentions: BTec probably
Current school:
Local comp
Sixth form:
__FE college
SEN:__ADHD, dyslexia
Other info:___Likes orchestra, D&D, Brooklyn 911

Stickerrocks · 11/06/2018 20:45

Alex It isn't just her spreadsheets which are legendary, there are many lurkers following her adventures too.

PeggySchuylar · 11/06/2018 20:46

Last exam physics on Friday!
Most of us have physics on Friday.

AlexanderHamilton · 11/06/2018 20:49

We actually became friends because of mumsnet. And our Dds became friends too which is lovely. Just been chatting to her now actually.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 11/06/2018 20:50

Dancers together, Alexander?

Stickerrocks · 11/06/2018 20:51

I think DD's school only has the language freaks & add maths geeks in next week (except for graphics). I suppose that's why I like the idea of having their leaving assembly after the exams have finished. They are all going to turn up in normal clothes and suddenly seem very grown up after (in some cases) seeing them in uniform for the last 12 years. I do hope the majority make the effort to turn up, especially after the horrible time they had just before the exams started. It will be lovely to end on a positive note instead of a tragic one.

noblegiraffe · 11/06/2018 20:54

Some grade boundary stuff:

Cblue ^Then they take whoever is left in the group (ie those that would have a 7 or 8) and give half of them a 7 and half of them an 8.
They then do their same exercise for grade 4-6, and then 1-3.^

This isn’t quite right. They peg the grade 1, 4 and 7 grade boundaries so that the proportions getting above those grades match those at G, C and A last year, and set the 9 grade boundaries using the formula. The grade boundaries for the other grades are then set at equal distances between these grades. So if it works out at 70% for a 7 and 80% for a 9, it’ll be 75% for an 8, regardless of the distribution of number of students between 70 and 80%. If it works out at 49% for a 4, and 70% for a 7, then it’ll automatically be 56% for a 5 and 63% for a 6. If decimals then there’ll be an argument about which way to round.

The formula for a 9 is “Percentage of those achieving at least a grade 7 who will be awarded a grade 9 = 7% + 0.5 × (percentage of students awarded grade 7 and above)”

Whether grade boundaries are higher or lower depending on how bright the year group is - technically the grade boundaries should work out the same for any year group (although unlikely, but they do a lot of statistical analysis of subgroups to make sure they perform as expected). If the year group sits an exam and the 4 grade boundary is set at 40% because 50% of the students should pass, then if a brighter cohort sat the same exam, if the grade boundary was set at 40%, more than 50% of students would pass, which is what you’d expect.

I don’t know how grade boundaries are set for IGCSE, they can’t use KS2 data because a lot of students sitting IGCSE don’t sit SATs. Maybe they actually read the students’ work and set the standards based on that? Shock

EllenJanethickerknickers · 11/06/2018 20:56

I hope they all make an effort to attend, sticker.

We still have prom to look forward to!

KickBishopBrennanUpTheArse · 11/06/2018 20:57

Catching up and checking in.

DC doing GCSEs: __ DD
Other DC: No
A level intentions: __ Maths, Geography and Computer Science (considering FM AS level if it's offered)
Current school: _ Slightly below average comp.
Sixth form: __ Big Catholic sixth form college in nearby Big City
Health issues: __ Some health issues I'm not sure I've posted about on this thread including low B12, Iron, Thyroid and vitamin D causing major tiredness (until we got it sorted in April) and alopecia areata (currently causing prom hair stress)
Other infoSelf-confessed nerd. Loves fanfic - mainly Marvel at the moment but also Harry Potter and lots of others. Plans for summer include approx 16 hrs of Netflix or SNL a day. Major crush on Kate McKinnon
Last exam:
German a week on Thursday

calzone · 11/06/2018 21:01

Dc doing exams......ds1
Other children.....ds2 year 8
September.....doing A levels in 6th form
A level intentions.....Business, Psychology, Biology, History
SEN....none
Interests.....Marvel, movies, PS4
Personality.....extremely shy

AlexanderHamilton · 11/06/2018 21:02

Dd is revising maths at the moment apparently. There was a topic she was unsure of at her revision class.

noblegiraffe · 11/06/2018 21:02

Oddsocks Re FM, if your DD wants to do maths at uni then she should seriously consider FM A-level. Universities don’t put it on their entry requirements not because it isn’t necessary, but because if they did it would narrow their pool of candidates down too far. The best uni courses require it, and if you don’t have it but your school offers it, you may be asked to explain why not.

Because a lot of schools don’t offer further maths, maths uni courses that don’t require it will make allowances for catching up in the first year, but it would be better to hit the ground running.

That said, maths, FM and geography does seem a bit restricted. A lot of schools allow FM as a 4th subject for this reason - is that an option?

mmzz · 11/06/2018 21:05

I don't understand the grade 9 calculation.
Can you do an example? Eg 20% get a 7% therefore 7%+ 0.5 x 0.2 x 0.2 = 9% get a 9

Or 7% + 10% = 17% will get a 9

Or something else?

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LooseAtTheSeams · 11/06/2018 21:08

Stickerrocks I hope they will be there.
it is strange how grownup they suddenly all seem, isn't it? I might take a photo of DS standing by the front door to compare with his Y7 starting secondary pic...

noblegiraffe · 11/06/2018 21:09

goodbye I’m not teaching Y11 this year so not close enough to the action to make boundary predictions but if paper 3 is also nice, then because grade boundaries were expected to rise this year anyway due to the sawtooth effect we could see higher than 200 for a 9.