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Recommendations for co-ed boarding schools

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ohmygosh123 · 18/03/2012 13:34

I'm thinking about options for DD who loves being outdoors, gets on very well with boys and girls, and often better with boys as she is quite sporty and likes to be able to run around. Hence why I am thinking co-ed might be a better choice than an all girls school. Also needs to be academic, but with friendly atmosphere and good pastoral support. Any ideas please, as I'm not that well versed on co-ed boarding schools that take girls from 13.

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EdithWeston · 21/03/2012 07:28

Colleges exaggerates the demographics and level of behavioural issues. The school has however had difficult times in the recent past.

Colleger · 21/03/2012 07:36

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1272429/The-Uppingham-revolt-Pupils-stage-mass-mutiny-form-expulsions.html

Who is running the school. It's none of the students business as to why pupils have been expelled. I'd be ashamed if my children were to get involved in such protests.

milkshake3 · 21/03/2012 07:39

What are views on Marlborough ( lets not have a chat about Kate!)?

EdithWeston · 21/03/2012 07:40

Colleger: that story is the story about past difficulties I hoped the OP would find if she followed my suggestion to google. It does not however justify your erroneous statement about 90% being rich/posh; and it is from a little while ago.

OP: as I said, the school has has difficulties in the recent past. If you visit, the questions you need to ask are about pastoral care and behaviour management since then.

Colleger · 21/03/2012 08:06

You can't chance the ethos of a school overnight.

Needmoresleep · 21/03/2012 09:44

I dont think press reports are a good way of judging.

First in our experience of two schools, schools vary in their approach with one begin very open when pupils are expelled so pupils and parents are aware of the no tolerance policy. The second is much quieter about the pupils it "loses". If you googled both schools and added the word drugs you would be convinced that the first is the more druggy school. I am not sure that is the case.

Second the issue is not really one of whether pupils take drugs, or drink excessively, but how pervasive that culture is. In the two schools I know, and presumably most others, there are identifiable groups who seem "too cool for school", but there is no pressure for others to join them.

For whatever reason drugs seem to be a problem in boys and mixed schools but not really in girls schools. However it is the reverse with eating disorders.

Dustylaw · 21/03/2012 10:12

41% at Uppingham got straight A/A* at A level and approx 8-10% to Oxbridge. How can Colleger square that with saying 'not great results'? Good grief!

Colleger · 21/03/2012 10:18

It's called the foreign contingent coming in at sixth form and musicians going onto Oxbridge! I would not pay £30k for a school that only gets 41% A/A. I wonder how many we're A's!

stealthsquiggle · 21/03/2012 10:33

really? You choose a school based on it's proportion of A/A* vs it's fees Hmm?

Based on geography, and the OP's description of "she is quite sporty and likes to be able to run around.... Also needs to be academic, but with friendly atmosphere and good pastoral support." I would definitely be considering Sedbergh, inspite of the fact that they got no-one into Oxbridge at all last year. It is still on my long list for uber-academic DS, and it is one of the worst option for us geographically. A bright child will do well in most places TBH - unless the pastoral care is not good enough, and from what little I have seen so far I think Sedbergh's is very good. Their ISC inspection report is 6 years old though, so not much use.

happygardening · 21/03/2012 10:35

Ok I know its not very representative but I know three families at Uppinghan all talk very highly of it and none have drunk/drugged up children. All are wealthy but lets face it you have to be wealthy to stump up £33 000 PA per child and two of the families have two children there so it goes with the territory I afraid. But I'm not aware of "all the families are über rich and 90% of them you'd fine in thepeerage.com!" although they are what I would call the county types/twin set and pearls/boden brigade.

stealthsquiggle · 21/03/2012 10:38

"county types/twin set and pearls/boden brigade"

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Dustylaw · 21/03/2012 11:09

Colleger, that's plain wrong and seems rather mean spirited. Fine if you don't like Uppingham but why try and do it down?

Since you ask, 19.6% of A levels were A. Since 35.6% of all GCSEs were at A and 67.9% at A*/A it really doesn't seem like it's a "foreign contingent coming in at sixth form" - what a nasty way to put it anyway. Furthermore, the pupils getting in to Oxbridge are going to study a wide range of subjects - if there's an organ scholar or two in there then so much the better.

And from what I've heard Sedbergh and Giggleswick are great schools and do very well by their pupils.

ohmygosh123 · 21/03/2012 11:12

I know the problem for academics is that it all depends on the year's intake - one year can be high and another low. But at schools where they have had good years, teacher's expectations tend to be higher, and they will help you cater for A-level options to fit the course you want to do. (Own personal experience of state / independent selective grammar is behind those comments. The atmosphere of a class depends very much on the ambition of pupils in it. 7 out of 12 of my tutor group went to Oxbridge - but out of my history class - just me! The other history class had 5 Oxbridge pupils and the level of debate was so much higher that my teacher apologised to me that I had to suffer the 'dumb' class! In total there were over 30 in my year to Oxbridge. )

Hence why I want DD to go to an academic school, so that she gets that stimulus and debate and be among others that want to learn, and not stick out like a sore thumb.

I think I can cope with the peerage.com - they aren't all snobby - at least not the ones I met on gardening courses who have always been really lovely and friendly to me ........ and I have a hand me down set of pearls but no twin set! I have met adults my own age who went to Uppingham and loved it, so was considering it, but not sure about the grades ....... when compared to likes of CLC or Sevenoaks.

If I want selective where academic debate is encouraged, and she gets to swim, do sports, ride horses, play the violin or whatever, then where should I be looking. She isn't exactly a geek, but she is the kind of child who want to be able to learn about everything that catches her imagination - and retains some very obscure facts.

Am now realising should be considering girls schools too. Had just hoped that there were more coed boarding schools than Sevenoaks out there......

Oh and thanks for all the advice, its proving really useful. Any more opinions on Marlborough? Don't remember anyone from Cambridge who went there ..... compared to loads from St Pauls etc ...... is it a feeder for St Andrews and Edinburgh and the right social set? I'm NOT trying to offend anyone by the way - its just fees are alot to pay, and I want to make the right choice.

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ohmygosh123 · 21/03/2012 11:14

I will add pearls were gran's, and the 'peerage.com' people never saw me in them - I was given them for my wedding day as something old! Before anyone thinks I am a peerage wannabe Grin.

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propatria · 21/03/2012 11:19

The parental make up of Uppingham shouldnt come as a suprise to anyone,think the peerage bit is a bit over the top but the county set etc is as you would expect,its a traditional school away from the south east,lots of established buyers,good honest chaps,lots of second and third generation buyers,not flash,a good solid school.
Would love to know why people rave about Oakham,not my geog patch,but I understood it was fairly ok,nothing special,,certainly not a patch on Uppingham or Oundle,I know theyve imported a lot of sportsmen but has it really improved that much?

Colleger · 21/03/2012 11:27

So what happened to the 41%? How has it gone up to 68%?

I also think you need to get over my comments. Nasty? Really? If the schools that great then you don't need to feel so insulted...

Colleger · 21/03/2012 11:28

Personally I'd only be looking at Sevenoaks and Oundle for co-ed academic rigour.

mrswoodentop · 21/03/2012 11:30

Have to say i haven't much time for Uppingham ,grew up around there and frankly academically it was pretty poor and you could guarantee if there was an arrogant know it all around they went to Upppngham ,not anti public school I boarded at another one as did my siblings .Have to say as well that of my son's friends who went there none have achieved much academically at all,I was quite shocked ,he is though in the year that had the rebellion last year.

Know some people at Rugby ,they seem pleased ,or Oundle or i would rate Oakham very highly,know plenty of delightful all rounders who have done extremely well there .another alternative might be Haileybury or The Leys

PastGrace · 21/03/2012 11:45

Another vote for Oundle, although interesting that there is a big Uppingham/Oundle split in terms of votes on here - they are rival schools from a pupil's perspective as well as on paper, although in a nice way (the Oundle/Uppingham first XV rugby has pretty much a full school turn out). My parents looked at Uppingham, Rugby and Oundle for my DSis and ended up sending us both to Oundle. I had a friend who went to Rugby and enjoyed it, but it wasn't right for our family. It fell to Oundle/Uppingham and Oundle just felt much more welcoming, and more geared up for girls.

I would suggest you look round Oundle and Uppingham to see if you like either, even if it is just to give you a point of comparison when looking at other schools. I'd have no qualms sending my child to Oundle - I was far happier there than at uni.

happygardening · 21/03/2012 11:45

Sevenoaks is very much weekly boarding. Kings Canterbury almost identical results to Oundle not sure about the riding but plenty of other sport/music/drama etc. Canterbury is a lovely city and IME experience full boarders like being in larger towns/cities.

PastGrace · 21/03/2012 11:47

I agree MrsWT - we were on a family holiday and there was a family we kept bumping into. Within 10 minutes of chatting to them about what they had been doing on holiday my DSis and I had (correctly) predicted Harrow for the boy and Uppingham for the girl. There is an attitude you can pick up on.

But I'm sure you could say that about lots of schools, and it's just that some are more obvious than others.

Trix2323 · 21/03/2012 11:48

Is Kings Cantebury full boarding or practically weekly boarding?

I can see the statistics on number of boarders, but ime there are sometimes unofficial or optional exeats that are bad news for the oversees kids if too many go home and there are no real activities for those that are left.

stealthsquiggle · 21/03/2012 11:51

Whilst this has people's attention - any views on Shrewsbury?

Trix2323 · 21/03/2012 11:51

That is interesting PastGrace. But are you sure that you can spot the actual school from attitude?

I once walked in to an estate agents with DD who chatted a bit and was asked "does she go to private school", but she only goes to the local, non-selective day school

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