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Whitgift and Trinity 11+ interviews - follow on

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frankies69 · 14/02/2012 21:57

Hi all

I have decided to restart this thread good luck for friday!!!!

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gazzalw · 17/02/2012 09:01

Good luck to you all - this will be me in 2 weeks time....What strikes me is that no-one seems to get early morning post any more - sure that post quite often used to come at 8.00 ish but no longer, it seems!

Ladymuck · 17/02/2012 09:12

@inneedofwine If there is someone at your school who passes these exams this year, then I suggest that you approach the relevant parents and ask them which tutor they used. I wouldn't ask whether they used a tutor, as you may not get a direct answer, but whenever I have asked this question (ie who) of someone who has passed, I have always been given a name and phone number, and I have yet to meet the boy who did not have some preparation. Primary schools approach the curriculum in different ways, and at different times, so it can be helpful to go to a tutor who knows more about your current school, and where the gaps are likely to be. I would expect most tutors in the area to be familiar with the standards required for these exams, as well as for the grammar schools.

In terms of the question of whether tutoring is a good idea or not, I think that exam preparation is essential, and actually a very good skill for the boys to learn at this age. Boys in the top 5% of the ability range would probably pass the independent school exams without much extra preparation, but as the schools offer generous scholarships which are financially valuable, even these boys end up doing additional preparation. And to be honest, if a family is not willing to prepare for the exams, then potentially these schools are not the right destination for you. But tutoring comes in many shapes and forms, and it is important that your son is comfortable with the level of preparation required. For some families preparation with one or both parents is sufficient using resources such as the bond books and ISEB papers. For other families that is not a good option ( due to time, personality or confidence) and an hour a week with a tutor, together with an hours homework for about a year ahead of the exams seems to be about the average. But a tutor per se is not strictly necessary, though I would suggest some preparation is.

[Sorry, small rant as it frustrates me to see bright boys either not try out for these schools as they don't realise the potential fee remission available, or that they're told not to bother with tutoring and equate this to not even looking at Bond papers].

stressederica · 17/02/2012 09:15

Inneedofwine,
Our state primary offered no help at all either. No one discussed the possibility of entrance exams with us and as both me and DH did not grow up this country, we had to navigate an absolute minefield to find the best option for our DS. We found our tutor through a friend and recommendations are the best way to go. My DS only had her for 1 hour once a week for about 5 months just to cover all the Maths topics and VR that he would never have come across in his whole career at school, even if he had lasted until the end of year 6! The Bond books and practice papers are excellent. But as someone else said, if your DS is bright, he should be able to get through without too much effort. Both T and W tend to weed out (not a great word but can't seem to think of anything more suitable at this time of the morning Smile) what they call the 'over tutored' boys anyway. That's the feeling we got. They are looking for potential and are more interested in where they think these boys will be in a few years time.

SoupDragon · 17/02/2012 09:22

The spelling list and reading list get sent out later with information about the New Boys morning.

Inneedofwine - for both DSs we had a maths tutor for a year, one hour per week, because the school did not teach them the right stuff at the right time. Also, the methods required for a timed exam were different and they needed to know how to approach certain times of question. Other than that, we did VR and comprehension from Bond books and I threw in an essay writing exercise if I could be arsed (often just writing a plan so that they had a few essay frameworks up their sleeves)

Caoimhe · 17/02/2012 09:52

Morning everyone!!

Just marking my place so I am ready to give out huge congratulations to all of your successful boys!!!!!!

kravings · 17/02/2012 09:56

no sign of postie...now the stalking begins...left the front door open and put a camp out, sitting with a hot mug of Brew...Hmm

Ladymuck · 17/02/2012 09:56

So where are all the postmen today?!

gazzalw · 17/02/2012 10:07

Do you know the expression "a watched pot never boils" Grin

Reminds me of the day the Sutton Grammar results were due out (only the school had changed its mind and decided to do them 5 days later) and DW spent the whole day refreshing, refreshing, refreshing only to find out that she would need to wait a few more days....

Hoping that doesn't happen to you all though!

Caoimhe · 17/02/2012 10:09

I was in this position 2 years ago - I feel your pain!!

Come on posties!!!!! Hurry up!!!!!!

kravings · 17/02/2012 10:12

aaaarrrrrggghhhhh...got my post...got an offer from TRINITY and KINGSTON GRAMMAR aaaarrrrggggg we are running from room to room screaming...halt...no letter from W Hmm

gazzalw · 17/02/2012 10:15

Well done to you!

havinganightmare · 17/02/2012 10:16

Well done kravings to you and DS!!! What a brilliant result!! 2 of my mates waiting on Kingston grammar too... But boooooo to W. Lets hope there's no glitch??????

Ladymuck · 17/02/2012 10:19

Fab news! And well done to your ds! But Shock about lack of W letter! Not another 24 hour wait...

Caoimhe · 17/02/2012 10:28

Wow, kravings - CONGRATULATIONS to your ds - two offers!!!! Fantastic!

stresscity · 17/02/2012 10:31

Oh God-Im HAVINGANIGHTMARE. Postie due any minute and I feel waves of sick!!
KRAVINGS-Im SOOOO pleased for you-I shouted YEAH when I just read your post-well done!!

Caoimhe · 17/02/2012 10:32

Fingers crossed stresscity!!

Bit shocked at no letter from W for kravings - very odd!

stressederica · 17/02/2012 10:36

Congratulations Kravings to yo and your DS SmileSmile

kravings · 17/02/2012 10:38

Thanks Thanks Thanks to all of you for your wishes...I wish you all the same great news.
I couldn't help it - I called up Whitgift...and yes yes yes, they said the letters were sent out yesterday, after taking my details the nice lady said on the phone that CONGRATUALTIONS your son's got a place at W!!!

A BIG THANK YOU to all of you for being such a great support for the last 3 months...love you all Smile

LIZS · 17/02/2012 10:39

:) for littlekravings

stresscity · 17/02/2012 10:39

thanks - caoimhe- he's late!!

SoupDragon · 17/02/2012 10:40

Yay! Congratulations.

I"ve seen my postman but he now appears to have vanished. I am going to call a friend and arrange a pincer movement to trap him. Then I will rugby tackle him to the floor and wrestle his bag of letters away from him.

Caoimhe · 17/02/2012 10:41

Fab news, kravings - W as well!!! Big decision time now!!!!!!

havinganightmare · 17/02/2012 10:41

Ah kravings brilliant now decisions decisions!! Is there some sort of virtual wine bar we could all meet in tonight to celebrate or commiserate???? Grin

Ladymuck · 17/02/2012 10:41

Congratulations! A clean sweep! Well done to you and ds! He must be thrilled!

So, which are you choosingGrin?

SoupDragon · 17/02/2012 10:42

Of course, that means that anyone waiting on W can just phone and ask them, claiming the letter wasn't with the rest of the post...