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SNP lay their stall out - vote for them next May, they will start negotiating to separate.

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RandomGeocache · 11/10/2025 17:15

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgknlj3vr76o

Because they have learned nothing from Brexit. I mean, it's sort of their raison d'etre, banging on about independence and it does resonate with some of their fans who believe that should Scotland separate, we'd all be loads richer. They do appear somewhat confused though - a majority in parliament is a mandate, the biggest number of MSPs is a mandate, a vote for "pro-indy" parties is a mandate.... Anyone would think they were either making it up as they go along, or hedging their bets.

Are we supposed to forget all about the incompetence, the failing NHS and education, the scandals and all the other fuck ups?

So if you don't want to separate, don't vote SNP or Green in May.

John Swinney

How John Swinney plans to put his stamp on the SNP as election looms

There is a renewed emphasis on independence as the party meets less than a year before the Scottish election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgknlj3vr76o

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celticnations · 14/01/2026 20:29

https://www.centreforcities.org/publication/centralisation-nation/

The above is why the UK is not fit for purpose.

SNP/SNP for me.

RhannionKPSS · 17/01/2026 20:48

What woman in their right mind would vote for the SNP or the Greens?
Having spent many, many hours over the years sitting in Holyrood watching committee meetings and debates regarding the GRC bill and “ assisting dying bill I am completely and utterly sickened and disgusting by 99% of all MSPs.

Homephonea · 17/01/2026 21:04

RhannionKPSS · 17/01/2026 20:48

What woman in their right mind would vote for the SNP or the Greens?
Having spent many, many hours over the years sitting in Holyrood watching committee meetings and debates regarding the GRC bill and “ assisting dying bill I am completely and utterly sickened and disgusting by 99% of all MSPs.

Lib Dem’s are just as disgusting. Christine Jardine has some truly abhorrent views. Who the hell thinks these things? How do you get to much a sick frame of mind where you’d flush women’s rights down the loo to protect predatory men?

The Greens are always incapable of coherent thought, but the Lib Dem’s were always a good bet for a floating voter. Now never again.

celticnations · 19/01/2026 21:42

There will never be a Conservative, LibDem, Green, Alba or Reform First Minister in Holyrood. Never.

Choice is SNP or Labour & the latter are trailing badly.

I'll be voting SNP/SNP despite their hideous mistakes because I believe that the UK is too centric to London, Westminster too jealous of power that was never agreed to.

confusedlab47 · 20/01/2026 09:59

And that’s a problem - two populist left-ish parties with not a lot between them except Indy…not great for any policy diversity, not great for scrutiny of legislation or getting u-turns on bad policies.

Waitwhat23 · 20/01/2026 10:51

I voted yes in 2014. Wouldn't even consider it now.

Putting aside how shite the SNP have been at governing generally, the quality of current MSP's across all parties (with only a few exceptions) is piss poor. Party whips, shite policies, being influenced by lobbying groups, connections with characters dubious to say the least, financial irregularities...the list goes on and on.

I used to be proud of our Government and Parliament. Not now. I'm just waiting to see what the next scandal is.

celticnations · 21/01/2026 23:19

confusedlab47 · 20/01/2026 09:59

And that’s a problem - two populist left-ish parties with not a lot between them except Indy…not great for any policy diversity, not great for scrutiny of legislation or getting u-turns on bad policies.

Aye, a wee bit like the Tories & Reform too. Right wing nutters.

Then Labour are just a "His Master's Voice" party: anything that London Labour wants is usually adhered to in the end.

Homephonea · 22/01/2026 07:08

celticnations · 21/01/2026 23:19

Aye, a wee bit like the Tories & Reform too. Right wing nutters.

Then Labour are just a "His Master's Voice" party: anything that London Labour wants is usually adhered to in the end.

At least the Tories know what a woman is and have consistently and solidly defended women’s rights. Think what you like with the rest of their policies but this alone makes them look so much more sane than SNP, LibDems and Greens.

Why oh why do the SNP continue to defile themselves with this nonsense? What on earth is going on there?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 22/01/2026 09:45

How anyone could vote for a party that think it’s a good use of taxpayers money to fight for the right of male rapists to be incarcerated with vulnerable females is beyond me. They are the party of cruelty to women.

celticnations · 24/01/2026 18:51

@Homephonea Quite agree re women's rights.

However. It is a sick joke to think the the Conservative party are a fair minded party. They have never been.

Women's Right to Vote?
Non-landed gentry Right to Vote?
Home Rule Ireland?
Home Rule Scitland?
Devolution?
Good Friday Agreement?

The single most successful political party in the world, ever. Not because they are supurb. Because they are utterly ruthless.

celticnations · 24/01/2026 18:53

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 22/01/2026 09:45

How anyone could vote for a party that think it’s a good use of taxpayers money to fight for the right of male rapists to be incarcerated with vulnerable females is beyond me. They are the party of cruelty to women.

Agree re women.

But vote for a party whose PM partied on down whilst incarcerating the rest of us, who wanted our bodies piled high in the streets...nah.

celticnations · 25/01/2026 01:15

The Conservative stall is always thus:

Quote: "There is no measure of military force that the Tory Party will readily employ; they denounce all violence except their own; they uphold all Law except the Law they choose to break; they always welcome the application of force to others but they themselves are to remain immune. They are to select from the Statute Book the Laws they will obey & the Laws they will resist". Unquote.

Churchill
1914

Who in their right mind - assuming a sound moral compass would vote Tory?

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