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Shall we have a Scotsnet general election thread?

617 replies

JennyLake · 22/05/2024 19:34

This WILL be interesting. Even if it doesn’t rid us of the SNP from Holyrood, it will provide a good barometer of public opinion on the recent exploits of the SNP.

Farewell Blackman and Black!

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apples24 · 23/05/2024 05:51

I'll vote Labour.

I would NEVER vote SNP and desperately want rid of my awful misogynistic lazy totally invisible in his constituency SNP MP.

I can't believe the SNP supporters in this thread. Have they not yet realised that the party is wholly incompetent.

I would vote Tory for Holyrood elections but I absolutely cannot cast a vote to support the Westminster Tories which are getting increasingly fringe/extreme right. The utter cluster fuck of no deal Brexit, Johnson lying his greasy arse off, Truss blowing up the economy, massively expensive and ineffective Rwanda bill being promoted etc absolutely deserve no votes whatsoever.

So out of a bad bunch I will begrudgingly vote Labour who struggle to define a woman. But I hope that the general tide is turning in time to prevent a disaster in that space.

LoopyGremlin · 23/05/2024 06:33

Used to vote SNP but cannot vote for them currently. Can't vote Tory despite their stance on women. Greens are literally bonkers. So left with Labour or Lib Dems. Think it'll have to be Labour but it's definitely best of a bad bunch rather than active support.

flyingwingsabove · 23/05/2024 06:37

LoopyGremlin · 23/05/2024 06:33

Used to vote SNP but cannot vote for them currently. Can't vote Tory despite their stance on women. Greens are literally bonkers. So left with Labour or Lib Dems. Think it'll have to be Labour but it's definitely best of a bad bunch rather than active support.

This is where I am at too.

Waitwhat23 · 23/05/2024 07:08

LoopyGremlin · 23/05/2024 06:33

Used to vote SNP but cannot vote for them currently. Can't vote Tory despite their stance on women. Greens are literally bonkers. So left with Labour or Lib Dems. Think it'll have to be Labour but it's definitely best of a bad bunch rather than active support.

I wouldn't vote Lib Dems given Alex Cole - Hamilton's 'I did it all for Beth' bullshite. And aside from that, my dad describes them as 'Tory lite' which seems quite apt.

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 07:10

I just love how John Swinney is saying how disrespectful it is to hold an election when the Scots are on (school) holidays- erm, we're not!

Queenofwistfulthinking · 23/05/2024 07:11

I would rather vote for Mr Blooby (checking to see if he is a candidate) than the SNP.

StoorieHoose · 23/05/2024 07:15

Another Daddy Bear constituent here - I hope he gets thrown out on his arse

flyingwingsabove · 23/05/2024 07:15

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 07:10

I just love how John Swinney is saying how disrespectful it is to hold an election when the Scots are on (school) holidays- erm, we're not!

We are. School holidays start in my area the week before. We finish on 27th June.

tintobat · 23/05/2024 07:19

apples24 · 23/05/2024 05:51

I'll vote Labour.

I would NEVER vote SNP and desperately want rid of my awful misogynistic lazy totally invisible in his constituency SNP MP.

I can't believe the SNP supporters in this thread. Have they not yet realised that the party is wholly incompetent.

I would vote Tory for Holyrood elections but I absolutely cannot cast a vote to support the Westminster Tories which are getting increasingly fringe/extreme right. The utter cluster fuck of no deal Brexit, Johnson lying his greasy arse off, Truss blowing up the economy, massively expensive and ineffective Rwanda bill being promoted etc absolutely deserve no votes whatsoever.

So out of a bad bunch I will begrudgingly vote Labour who struggle to define a woman. But I hope that the general tide is turning in time to prevent a disaster in that space.

This is exactly where I am too on all points!

StoorieHoose · 23/05/2024 07:20

Oh no. Just went to see who is standing against Alyn Smith and it's the useless Council Leader Chris Kane and also Neil Benny another useless Councillor What a bloody choice!

Einwegflasche · 23/05/2024 07:22

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 22/05/2024 21:11

Scotland's vote is pretty much an irrelevance in deciding UK governments. If England wants Labour, it will elect Labour regardless of how Scotland votes. The likelihood of Hung Parliament, or even a slim Labour majority, looks increasingly implausible, so no, I don't accept the premise that Scotland has to vote Labour to get rid of the Tories.

And then we wonder why many Scots want independence? 🙄

Einwegflasche · 23/05/2024 07:23

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 07:10

I just love how John Swinney is saying how disrespectful it is to hold an election when the Scots are on (school) holidays- erm, we're not!

Many Scottish schools will have broken up by that point.

Rainbowshit · 23/05/2024 07:23

Elieza · 22/05/2024 20:51

I don't know who to vote for at all. A party that doesn't believe in gender and goes by sex instead would be a start for me.

Same. I'd love to vote Labour to keep the Tories and the SNP out but Labour want to introduce effectively self id. ..

Einwegflasche · 23/05/2024 07:24

LoopyGremlin · 23/05/2024 06:33

Used to vote SNP but cannot vote for them currently. Can't vote Tory despite their stance on women. Greens are literally bonkers. So left with Labour or Lib Dems. Think it'll have to be Labour but it's definitely best of a bad bunch rather than active support.

Relatable.

Jeezitneverends · 23/05/2024 07:27

Waitwhat23 · 22/05/2024 20:24

I'd really love to see anyone giving any good reason why people should give the SNP their vote. And not in a 'keep the Tories out!!' type way but in a 'given that there is a current police investigation into misuse of finances and that drug deaths in Scotland are the highest in Europe, and that membership has plummeted, and that independence (their supposed raison d'etre) is no longer a priority, along with numerous other issues, why we should vote for them. Seriously.

And I say that as a former SNP voter, whose whole family was previously involved in the party since the 70's.

Because unfortunately there are still a large proportion of idiots who subscribe to “Freeedumb”…and more unfortunately for me, I live in an area with a high proportion of them.

2chocolateoranges · 23/05/2024 07:30

I don’t think any general election should be when there is school holidays, majority of people I know go away the first two weeks of the summer holiday, so either won’t vote or need to get a postal vote.

I also believe that the only party that can make a difference in getting the Tories out is a labour vote so that’s where I’ll be going.

would love to see a reduction in the SNP votes too. Hopefully Humza Yousaf has done enough damage .

2chocolateoranges · 23/05/2024 07:32

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 07:10

I just love how John Swinney is saying how disrespectful it is to hold an election when the Scots are on (school) holidays- erm, we're not!

A high proportion of LAs will have closed for the summer holidays

kikisparks · 23/05/2024 07:32

PiHanLot · 22/05/2024 22:06

Yip, the old "red rosette on a pig"/"my grandfather voted Labour, my Father voted Labour..." which used to be par for the course in Scotland.

I would see it as people in Scotland making a positive choice to return to labour in this election because they want rid of Tory austerity.
But there seems to be plenty who are not that bothered about getting rid of the Tories

If your seat was between SNP and Tory to win it would you vote SNP?

kikisparks · 23/05/2024 07:56

Isyesterdaytomorrowtoday · 22/05/2024 22:49

I really struggle to put my finger on anything that the SNP have improved in the 17 years they’ve been in charge. Which really makes the extra tax hard to swallow. If they were doing any good I’d gladly pay it but they just aren’t.

It’ll be a tactical vote for me, counting down to a Scottish election.

We have free prescriptions, no university fees, no bedroom tax (might not be on your radar but it has been hideous pushing already poor families further into poverty), free personal care, Scottish child payment, free bus travel for under 22s, free school meals for primary school children, no fracking, the best IVF provision in the UK, carer’s allowance supplement, and many more things that you may not agree your tax should be funding but which many people are benefiting from and would feel it has done them good.

I’m a high rate tax payer but I am happy that the Scottish Government have actually cared about child poverty and tried to do something about it.

The UN special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights’ report really hit home to me how lucky we are to have a devolved government and not had to live purely under Tory rule https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Poverty/EOM_GB_16Nov2018.pdf

“Even while devolved authorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland are frantically trying to devise ways to ‘mitigate’, or in other words counteract, at least the worst features of the Government’s benefits policy, Ministers insisted to me that all is well and running according to plan.”

Are SNP amazing? No. Do they have faults? Of course, you don’t need me to tell you them, I’m sure plenty of others will be along to jump on and list them. Is it helpful to argue they are only bad people only interested in lining their own pockets? Well personally I don’t think so.

I wish politics wasn’t as polarising and venomous, but then whilst I can happily understand there may be reasons for anyone choosing to vote labour or Lib Dem, I feel uncomfortable about anyone voting for the tories given what I see as their horrific track record. I suppose that’s how some people feel about me voting SNP. Maybe the tories too have done many great things that others have benefitted from even if I personally don’t agree with my tax being spent that way, but mostly what I see is failed billion pound contracts given to their friends, lying in parliament and proposing ridiculous poverty solutions like “get a better job” (well who will do the worse jobs then?).

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Poverty/EOM_GB_16Nov2018.pdf

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 08:06

That's my point - many/some local authorities but not all..Aberdeen city and shire for a start will still be in term time

PiHanLot · 23/05/2024 08:15

If your seat was between SNP and Tory to win it would you vote SNP?

Yes i would vote tactically.
But I would hope enough people see if they genuinely want rid of an austerity agenda which affects us all the only way is to make sure labour has a decent majority at Westminster.
If we want the Tories out we should be careful not to dilute the votes against them

2chocolateoranges · 23/05/2024 08:16

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 08:06

That's my point - many/some local authorities but not all..Aberdeen city and shire for a start will still be in term time

As far as I can see from a quick Google search of 15 different councils Aberdeen is the only schools that will still be open on the 4th of July so basically the majority of Scotland is on summer holiday.

Einwegflasche · 23/05/2024 08:19

@kikisparks I agree with your points re the SNP's attempts to tackle child poverty. JS has also stated that will be high up his agenda this time. Of course the SNP have also made decisions which I don't agree with, but it's foolish to deny that they have attempted to make positive changes regarding the abysmal levels of child poverty in Scotland.

kikisparks · 23/05/2024 08:30

stonkytonk11 · 23/05/2024 08:06

That's my point - many/some local authorities but not all..Aberdeen city and shire for a start will still be in term time

I had never heard of that, I honestly thought every school in Scotland finished at end of June. Oh well, every day is a school day (no pun intended 😬).

justasking111 · 23/05/2024 08:34

Waving to you from Wales where it doesn't matter who gets in nothing will change.

I wish you all luck