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I loathe the Scottish Government

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Dineasair · 16/04/2024 12:37

I loathe the Scottish Government. I want to see the SNP/Green Party coalition roast in hell! They can take any MSP who voted for the Gender Reform Bill or the Hate Crime Laws with them. Is it now a hate crime for a Scottish Woman to say that?

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Starlightshine · 16/08/2024 10:13

Shona Robison comes up with a budget of spending then cries that the UK funding is not enough to afford it. That’s not how budgets work love!!! You see a budget and then make what you want to do fit it. It’s not hard.

I don’t spend all my money and then get my nails done and go crying to my employer that they haven’t paid me enough to afford it!

Starlightshine · 16/08/2024 10:19

This is the sort of thing they spend money doing:
https://www.gov.scot/publications/national-action-plan-relationships-behaviour-schools-2024-2027/pages/17/

I have read every word of this and there is not a single tangible action in the entire document. How much did this cost to produce? There are no salient points in here whatsoever. Scotland will tackle high violence in schools not be reintroducing the punitive measures they used to use such as permanently excluding kids who could not behave No, the reason kids are so violent is that teachers don’t smile enough, and aren’t making school a warm enough environment.

I work I the private sector and if I can up with such a pile of nonsense I’d be handed a P45 immediately. In the private sector no one seems to notice. They possibly think this is ok. It’s staggering.

National action plan on relationships and behaviour in schools: 2024 - 2027

This Joint Action Plan draws together the actions that will be taken between 2024 - 2027 in response to the evidence from the Behaviour in Scottish Schools Research 2023.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/national-action-plan-relationships-behaviour-schools-2024-2027/pages/17

Newwwewww · 16/08/2024 13:05

Exactly - bad times ahead in the Scot parliament emergency statement. All predictable, it’s not as though the deficit has done anything other than grow for years.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/08/2024 13:15

Starlightshine · 16/08/2024 10:38

Some utter nonsense in that article. 😂

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/08/2024 13:16

Newwwewww · 16/08/2024 13:05

Exactly - bad times ahead in the Scot parliament emergency statement. All predictable, it’s not as though the deficit has done anything other than grow for years.

Edited

The "deficit" is entirely a UK phenomenon, and literally nothing whatsoever to do with devolved governments.

SirChenjins · 16/08/2024 13:22

Starlightshine · 16/08/2024 10:38

Absolutely spot on. It might not be palatable for the ever dwindling band of SNP supporters, but it was all going to come back to bite them on their tartan bahookies at some point.

Misthios · 16/08/2024 13:54

Sounds like the SNP faithful are so financially illiterate that they don't understand that a deficit is simply spending more money than you are collecting.

BigBoysDontCry · 16/08/2024 14:05

Misthios · 16/08/2024 13:54

Sounds like the SNP faithful are so financially illiterate that they don't understand that a deficit is simply spending more money than you are collecting.

Plus we are all subsiding England remember...🙄

Newwwewww · 16/08/2024 14:13

Well, a bit of financial education is coming around the corner shortly! Yes, it’s hilarious, Scotland is incapable of being held accountable for spending, is that really the line the SNP want to push?

Scintella · 16/08/2024 17:22

I can remember some document about nhs funding -the SMP responsible had been an occupational therapist - WTH I was a radiographer but had no knowledge or experience to write funding documentation. Nor had he -what a joke.
I think this is a problem with smaller countries - you get do gooder political decisions clueless of the bigger picture, especially when there is the two party adversarial politics we have here. Other small countries have a multi party system which would probably bee more balanced and sensible.

Starlightshine · 16/08/2024 17:52

It’s the compete and utter lack of ability to think a policy through. Like introducing a rent freeze. Did they look at the many many countries where a rent freeze stopped private investment in rental properties and shrank the rental market considerably sending rental prices through the roof? No they didn’t, hence private investment fleeing the market, the rental market shrinking and rents going sky high.

Or their school behaviour policies which don’t work. Or their public sector pay policies which involve throwing money at people before realising you can’t afford the promises made. They are just so unbelievably stupid!

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 17/08/2024 10:35

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/08/2024 13:15

Some utter nonsense in that article. 😂

Edited

Where? Please point it out. It all looks true to me.

Jeezitneverends · 17/08/2024 18:32

Aaron95 · 15/08/2024 12:14

It does seem ridiculous that it has been going on for over 3 years now. For everybody's sake it needs to be concluded one way or another.

Be patient…financial crime is notoriously complex to investigate…I’d far rather they took their time and presented a rock solid case that would result in convictions than a weak case which would fail

Aaron95 · 17/08/2024 21:48

Jeezitneverends · 17/08/2024 18:32

Be patient…financial crime is notoriously complex to investigate…I’d far rather they took their time and presented a rock solid case that would result in convictions than a weak case which would fail

This isn't complex though. Nobody has stolen anything or siphoned off money. Everyone knows they raised funds for a referendum then spent it on other campaigns. The only question is whether or not that is a crime.

The case has been with the procurator fiscal for months now and they will be ignoring it as much as they can because of the huge repercussions of their decision whatever they decide.

HappierTimesAhead · 18/08/2024 07:45

treadingonlego · 17/08/2024 10:24

https://wingsoverscotland.com/let-justice-be-done/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEtS1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHcJyixHkBJlZt4WLoosa7mbo9cGM_dwnFyvpu6rl4AT3OTJdSj6PojoSEw_aem__ArJuU2Zl9LR3wkjcUhdjw

Did anyone else miss this? 'Liz Lloyd, Nicola Sturgeon's former chief of staff, has been named in Parliament as the suspected criminal leaker of the false allegations against Alex Salmond to Davie Clegg of the Daily Record.'

I'm not suprised you missed it because it wasn't reported widely in the media despite being a huge story.

I still genuinely don't understand the lack of reporting on the failures of the Scottish government.

motheronthedancefloor · 18/08/2024 08:45

Aaron95 · 17/08/2024 21:48

This isn't complex though. Nobody has stolen anything or siphoned off money. Everyone knows they raised funds for a referendum then spent it on other campaigns. The only question is whether or not that is a crime.

The case has been with the procurator fiscal for months now and they will be ignoring it as much as they can because of the huge repercussions of their decision whatever they decide.

er....they allegedly used the money for personal things, hence the campervan uproar and the Sturgeon house being searched? So not just spending it on other campaigns. That's what I believe is being investigated.
It is taking bloody ages though. DH works in a finance related role and says theft and embezzlement do take ages, but he hasn't known any of the cases he's been a witness to, to have taken this long.

Misthios · 18/08/2024 08:57

Murrell has been charged with embezzlement, that happened in April 2024. So the Fiscal must think there is enough evidence to take a case to trial.

Whether they are holding off to see if there is also enough evidence against the woman who lived with Murrell, was married to Murrell, worked closely with Murrell is another question.

Aaron95 · 18/08/2024 09:15

Misthios · 18/08/2024 08:57

Murrell has been charged with embezzlement, that happened in April 2024. So the Fiscal must think there is enough evidence to take a case to trial.

Whether they are holding off to see if there is also enough evidence against the woman who lived with Murrell, was married to Murrell, worked closely with Murrell is another question.

No. The police charged him and will have then sent a report to the Fiscal. It is now the decision of the PF office to decide whether to prosecute him or not.

Talulahalula · 18/08/2024 09:22

HappierTimesAhead · 18/08/2024 07:45

I'm not suprised you missed it because it wasn't reported widely in the media despite being a huge story.

I still genuinely don't understand the lack of reporting on the failures of the Scottish government.

Agree. Or the uncritical loyalty of the SNP voter base (including my parents).

Misthios · 18/08/2024 09:23

o. The police charged him and will have then sent a report to the Fiscal. It is now the decision of the PF office to decide whether to prosecute him or not.

Ah right. I thought the PF had made that decision.

SirChenjins · 18/08/2024 10:34

I still genuinely don't understand the lack of reporting on the failures of the Scottish government

Same here - but I suppose the fact that a lot of senior roles in Scotland are appointed on a political basis from a very small pond helps. Hopefully as the SNP grip continues to loosen we might see that change.

BigBoysDontCry · 27/08/2024 14:50

BBC News - SNP choices contributing to financial pressure - watchdog
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rw9l40qxdo