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SNP shenanigans continued…

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TheBelmont · 25/04/2023 18:05

A follow on to…
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/4778465-sturgeons-husband-arrested

Thought I’d get a new thread going as we are perilously close to filling the last and I for one am enjoying watching events unfold in your good company!

buckle up…it’s gonna be a bumpy ride….😁

Sturgeon's husband arrested. | Mumsnet

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65187823 🍿 🍿 🍿

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/4778465-sturgeons-husband-arrested

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RandomGeocache · 01/03/2024 07:56

From the telegraph: "A Scottish Government consultation on banning offers and price reductions for unhealthy food listed “porridge oats” as one of the products affected."

And doesn't distinguish between the big bags of oats which you use to make your own porridge (and lots of other things) and the sachets which you could argue are full of sugar and additives.

How many examples of poorly thought out legislation are we up to now? Must be hundreds.

RandomGeocache · 01/03/2024 08:02

I think it's just yet another demonstration that they haven't a fucking clue. And neither have their "advisors".

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 08:53

RandomGeocache · 01/03/2024 08:02

I think it's just yet another demonstration that they haven't a fucking clue. And neither have their "advisors".

Didn’t they admit as much to the Covid inquiry?

BigBoysDontCry · 01/03/2024 09:33

It's all stick and no carrot with this lot.

No attempt to understand the dynamics of what leads people into drugs/alcohol/poor eating. No attempt to tackle issues at the root cause.

Every action they take makes things worse, often through the laws of unintended consequences as they don't think things through/have life experience etc.

It would be good just to have some basic competence in play.

SquidwardBound · 01/03/2024 09:43

It’s amazing how the SNP manage to be both ridiculously authoritarian and libertarian at the same time.

They are desperate to micromanage everyone’s diets and ban everything. But also totally up for people to choose their own sex and want to brand anyone worried about the rights of other groups as dreadful bigots who are holding back the tide of individual freedom.

Makes no sense.

user567543 · 01/03/2024 10:24

I agree people need it made easier to afford healthy choices not just making it harder to make bad ones. The SNP seem not to understand this…

BigBoysDontCry · 01/03/2024 10:48

It's things like the lack of cooking lessons in school too. Whilst to be fair I mostly learned to cook at home, the availability of ready meals/takeaways combined with working parents has sadly reduced this for some DC. This is where school cooking lessons are invaluable. But there is a shortage of HomeEc teachers and those we have are needed to concentrate on exam classes.

Then we have the loss of school class swimming lessons. Swimming is still a reasonably priced activity for DC to do at weekends if they aren't involved/can't afford to be doing other sports.

When I was a child the local pools did a cheap entry on a sat/sun and we'd spend most of the day there and get a shower after saving my mum the cost of hot water for baths.

I grew up in the 60s/70s in poverty but I think I was fitter and healthier than modern day kids. My DC have had a very different upbringing to me but I still made sure they could cook the basics as luckily I had the skills and budget to be able to do that and pay for swimming lessons etc. I feel so sad for kids missing out on these sorts of things.

RandomGeocache · 01/03/2024 12:20

No swimming in Scotland at all, building swimming pools along with schools has gone out of fashion, swimming isn't on the curriculum so what it means is that those parents who can afford private lessons do that, others don't and kids never learn.

DD did Higher Food and Nutrition but school are struggling to offer it now as again in their wisdom, the SNP has banned school from asking for ANY MONEY towards ingredients. Not a 50p a week, not a £10 a year, not even a contribution on a voluntary basis. Because that discriminates against families who can't afford it, therefore nobody gets it.

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 13:09

Councils can’t afford to run swimming pools with council tax freezes and cuts to the block grant by the Scot Gov, so are closing them.

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 13:12

But also totally up for people to choose their own sex and want to brand anyone worried about the rights of other groups as dreadful bigots who are holding back the tide of individual freedom.

This isn’t libertarian at all. A few individuals are being allowed to impose their beliefs on others in a very authoritarian way, indoctrinating children in schools against the wishes of parents, over-riding safeguarding, demanding everyone ignores the evidence of their eyes, destroying data on why decisions are made.

SquidwardBound · 01/03/2024 18:21

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 13:12

But also totally up for people to choose their own sex and want to brand anyone worried about the rights of other groups as dreadful bigots who are holding back the tide of individual freedom.

This isn’t libertarian at all. A few individuals are being allowed to impose their beliefs on others in a very authoritarian way, indoctrinating children in schools against the wishes of parents, over-riding safeguarding, demanding everyone ignores the evidence of their eyes, destroying data on why decisions are made.

It’s the weird SNP/green mix of libertarian and authoritarian. Rhetorical claims of libertarian ideals (at least for the people they approve of); authoritarianism in how things play out.

So you get gender self-ID even if you’re a serial rapist and micromanaging people’s breakfasts.

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 18:39

Did you spot who is on the panel for chair of the increasingly misnamed Scottish Human Rights Commission?

https://x.com/TwisterFilm/status/1763004257421177342?s=20

SNP shenanigans continued…
Northernsouloldies · 01/03/2024 18:54

And the last name controlling the rest of the names... still meddiling in the background.

FizzingAda · 01/03/2024 19:27

That's a kangaroo committee if ever there was one.

GrouchyKiwi · 01/03/2024 20:03

Miles Briggs is an absolute peach too.

And Kaukab Stewart: "In January 2023, she was one of a number of Scottish politicians who drew media attention and criticism after being photographed smiling in front of a sign reading 'Decapitate TERFs' and a drawing of a guillotine at a Glasgow rally.[24] She subsequently claimed that she had not seen the sign in question and commented that "Violent hate speech is totally unacceptable and has absolutely no place in our public discourse."[25] This explanation met with some ridicule, including from the author J.K. Rowling, who commented, "I too beam with delight when having my photograph taken with things of which I am entirely unaware".[26] The sign was reported to Police Scotland.[27] Fellow MSP Murdo Fraser described the sign as "clearly a hate crime and a public order offence".[28]

What a mad bunch of people.

readsalotgirl63 · 01/03/2024 21:19

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 18:39

Did you spot who is on the panel for chair of the increasingly misnamed Scottish Human Rights Commission?

https://x.com/TwisterFilm/status/1763004257421177342?s=20

Jesus wept !

Rainbowshit · 01/03/2024 21:31

IWillNoLie · 01/03/2024 18:39

Did you spot who is on the panel for chair of the increasingly misnamed Scottish Human Rights Commission?

https://x.com/TwisterFilm/status/1763004257421177342?s=20

God help us. 🙈🙈

annabelindajane · 02/03/2024 15:14

In a comment in Times today ( sorry no idea how to link) Alex Massie says “if the government can’t build a road ( A9) or a boat ( ferry fiasco) why are we surprised when it struggles to get a grip on other more complicated issues ?”

Audit Scotland has put out two thoroughly damning reports and I’ve not heard any discussion on these on radio ? Has anyone else heard anyone being held to account over these?

annabelindajane · 03/03/2024 16:00

Thank you - a depressing read .

Shona Robison was on Radio Scotland this morning and they missed an opportunity to quiz her on Audit Scotlands take on the Scottish finances . It was total condemnation but was not discussed . The usual mantra from her that Westminster don’t send them enough money .

SirChenjins · 04/03/2024 16:34

To be fair, this has been proposed for a while now - I’ve worked for the NHS for 30 years and this isn’t news.

IWillNoLie · 04/03/2024 17:20

Are GMB insane? It would be cheaper to pay 200 workers to dig tunnels (cf Liverpool) and build ships abroad. At least the islanders would then have a chance of being able to travel.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ferguson-marine-award-contract-for-seven-new-calmac-ferries-to-shipyard-gmb-union-4541018

SquidwardBound · 04/03/2024 17:24

I’m pretty sure that the evidence suggests that the Scottish government absolutely must not award any new ferry contracts to Ferguson marine.

Scotland needs ferries. It doesn’t have the money to waste on ferries that never get delivered.

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