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Peter Murrell has resigned with immediate effect

216 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/03/2023 12:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65000606

Good. It's all unravelling.

OP posts:
Sturmundcalm · 19/03/2023 18:33

@Crunchygrass - your NRS link on life expectancy is page not found for me but this report came out just last week which indicated that the Relative Index of Inequality is now worse than it was for healthy life expectancy. Another "closing the gap" that just isn't happening.
www.gov.scot/publications/long-term-monitoring-health-inequalities-march-2023-report/pages/1/

and you appear to have cherry-picked the life expectancy figures because the most recent one shows a fall the last two years:
www.nrscotland.gov.uk/news/2022/life-expectancy-continues-to-fall-in-scotland

Motheranddaughter · 19/03/2023 20:09

Most of the restrictions on hospitality were ridiculous

NicolaSturGONE · 19/03/2023 20:42

Used to work for the Scottish Government. Used to write parliamentary briefings and all sorts of reports.

100% agree the good news would be reported and the bad news buried. Anyone who thinks the SNP are doing a good job is just incredibly naïve.

I don't work for the SG anymore for many reasons.

BigBoysDontCry · 19/03/2023 21:50

The SNP took the phrase "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" and turned it into a training manual.

Surely at this point even the faithful must realise that every single utterance from any of them is a lie?

SirChenjins · 19/03/2023 22:16

Sadly not. My uncle is one of Scotland’s staunchest nationalists and still believes what they tell him, as does my friend (whose dad was one of the original members of the SNP decades ago). For many, they’re far more than a political party - they are part of their national identity as a Scot. Criticise the SNP and you criticise Scotland.

EngTech · 19/03/2023 22:25

It will come out in time but what was the main reason for NS stepping down?

Sugarfree23 · 19/03/2023 23:58

@EngTech I'd have thought the main reason was the Gender Bill & Isla 'pink leggings' Bryson, she really couldn't stay after that.
And their is obviously money issues between the Sturgeon/Merrells and the SNP.
Plus the membership levels falling.

What else do you think will come out?

BigBoysDontCry · 20/03/2023 08:37

I think given the resignation of the chief constable at the same time, it was her imminent interview regarding the police investigation.

Incredible that there could be so many other reasons. If you look back though there were many similar in the past including the salmond thing, breaking the ministerial code, ferries, court cases, fines etc and she didn't resign for any of that (brass neck).

TheGaffer · 20/03/2023 08:51

I’m not really understanding the chief constable resignation point (I’ve seen it referenced a few times). Is there a suggestion of a cover up by the police, or that the CC let it all happen on his watch turning a blind eye, or the police are about to blow the whole thing to pieces?

BigBoysDontCry · 20/03/2023 09:30

I think turning a blind eye and failing to progress a case which let's face it surely should have taken no longer than a couple of weeks to conclude on.

There are also allegations of spurious accusations having been made about people who attempted to have matters progressed in relation to the alleged missing money having been progressed by police.

The thing to remember is that the wheest for indy is at all levels and all areas of society. The SNP senior clique has controlled police Scotland and senior judges for many years. For evidence see the Alec Salmond case. I'm no fan of his but it exposed issues.

LittleDitto · 20/03/2023 09:42

There have only been two main front runners in the SNP leadership in recent history with Salmond and Sturgeon. Because they seemed “good” at what they did the voters mistook this for some kind of political immortality without realising that most of the rest of the party or anyone who would take over is completely incompetent.

After Salmond’s massive failure at independence and then the downfall of how much of a vile disposable human he is Sturgeon over-tried to be everyone’s friend snd the people’s politician of shining example of popularity because she was good at coming across that way.

But this has clearly highlighted how hopeless the rest of them are and the candidates that are desperate to follow on are just laughable.

The Tories must be rubbing their revolting little hands, but hopefully it will result in some life being breathed back into Scottish Labour.

SirChenjins · 20/03/2023 10:31

I hope so - although I hope Scottish Labour are better at understanding what a woman is than their WM counterparts, otherwise we’ll end up with more of the same gender nonsense that the majority doesn’t want.

NowThatsWhatICall22 · 20/03/2023 10:42

Perhaps it will be discussed on today’s Loose Women as NS is a guest? 🤨

BigBoysDontCry · 20/03/2023 12:00

Unfortunately Labour voted with the in terms of the GRR so i'm done with them.

The Tories may be rubbing their hands but at least they don't buy into this gobshite and why shouldn't they be rubbing their hands along with the majority of the Scottish population? I'd be more embarrassed about being a SNP voter than I would be a tory voter tbh

MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2023 12:03

SirChenjins · 20/03/2023 10:31

I hope so - although I hope Scottish Labour are better at understanding what a woman is than their WM counterparts, otherwise we’ll end up with more of the same gender nonsense that the majority doesn’t want.

Pp is right Scottish Labour voted with SNP

SirChenjins · 20/03/2023 13:28

Yes I know they did - my post was meant to be sarcastic, apologies for not being clearer. I’m done with them too, so unless SL distance themselves from their WM counterparts on this issue then they won’t get my vote either.

annabelindajane · 20/03/2023 13:46

There was a phone in on Radio Scot this morning and one independence supporter from Shetland ( can’t be many of them ) said we all were under the impression that the SNP would be ruling when we got independence but this wasn’t true as other parties would rise to sort it all out - he sounded a reasonable man but god help us if this is what people think . Unfortunately Kay Adams didn’t ask who would form the second coming .

MarshaMelrose · 20/03/2023 14:36

annabelindajane · 20/03/2023 13:46

There was a phone in on Radio Scot this morning and one independence supporter from Shetland ( can’t be many of them ) said we all were under the impression that the SNP would be ruling when we got independence but this wasn’t true as other parties would rise to sort it all out - he sounded a reasonable man but god help us if this is what people think . Unfortunately Kay Adams didn’t ask who would form the second coming .

So independence supporters don't actually think the party they've been electing for years to run the country are actually capable of running the country? But presumably they're going to carry on electing them to do a bad job. It's hard to get your head around it really.

NicolaSturGONE · 20/03/2023 14:43

I agree with a PP - I loathe the SNP so much that I would sooner vote Tory.

Workerbeep · 20/03/2023 15:21

@annabelindajane i heard that man.

I did not really rate what he said as even though softly spoken and measured in his delivery he used to be a member of the Green Party but changed to SNP seeing as they went into coalition together: which I don’t understand.

Workerbeep · 20/03/2023 15:22

Robin macAlpine was very good on Radio Scotland this morning.

SirChenjins · 20/03/2023 19:49

What was his take on things?

Workerbeep · 20/03/2023 20:42

@SirChenjins you can listen on iplayer on the Kaye Adam’s morning show I think about 10mins in.

kaye Adam was particularly pathetic and ignorant for something she was attempting to lead a discussion on.

Here’s my recollections on the bit I heard…
there are government, of which NS was in charge of as first minister, and governance, which PM was responsible for as CEO of the SNP.
Getting governance right is basic for things to run whether that be a company or a community council; for honesty, fairness and transparency. The murrells should never have held that much power in one household and the two strands of government and governance have merged. I suppose the NEC were in charge of choosing candidates to represent the SNP in holyrood and Westminster elections, for example

Both are problematic at the moment under this couples’ watch; whether that be the mess of the government of DRS and Gender reform or governance of misleading membership numbers.

Lots of folk knew this, knew it was wrong and did nothing.
there was a cohort of concerned folk in 2020 that tried to clear the rot out of the NEC, new people were elected but PM and his cronies managed to put a stop to it through some stealthy manoeuvres.

honestly its appears to me that the murrells have acted as if they are in the Scottish version of house of cards.

PM is under police investigation.

I turned it off when someone phoned in proclaiming to just be ‘an ordinary person not knowing too much about anything political and needing someone to explain things to her’ but really liked Humza and managed to name dropped Laura kueunssberg;
yeah right!

Aphrathestorm · 22/03/2023 20:50

I listened to that too.

I agree with the Shetland man.

The SNP is (supposedly) the mechanism for getting Indy.

Lots of people support and vote for them to demonstrate their desire for Indy. Votes for them shouldn't be taken as an endorsement of their policies.

NS's big mistake was not getting this esp re GRR

annabelindajane · 22/03/2023 21:44

Aphrathestorm · 22/03/2023 20:50

I listened to that too.

I agree with the Shetland man.

The SNP is (supposedly) the mechanism for getting Indy.

Lots of people support and vote for them to demonstrate their desire for Indy. Votes for them shouldn't be taken as an endorsement of their policies.

NS's big mistake was not getting this esp re GRR

But why do people who want independence for Scotland wish to destroy the country in the meantime ?

Im guessing there are financial issues re NS departures . Maybe money has been sent to the states over the years to save up for a central bank - just a thought