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Tell me this is not real please. Scotland's first period dignity officer is a man. A MAN.

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Rainbowshit · 15/08/2022 21:37

I just can't put into words how furious this makes me. Females are having the pis absolutely ripped out of them in Scotland.

What the fuck would a male understand about the indignity of realising you'd leaked through onto your clothes.

About the cold fear when your period is late.

About trying to unwrap a tampon quietly. Etc etc.

I suppose the only saving grace is at least they are not claiming to be a woman.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/3593497/dundee-man-leading-period-poverty-fight-how-to-get-free-products/

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RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:02

Just out of interest, would the pitchforks be out if it was a trans man or non binary person appointed?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 16/08/2022 01:08

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:02

Just out of interest, would the pitchforks be out if it was a trans man or non binary person appointed?

If they had a womb at least originally and had some first hand experience of menstruation, that's OK.

Just like I'd expect somebody responsible for encouraging men to check their testicles and go to the GP if they find lumps or getting frequently very embarrassed older men to have prostate checks to have at least owned a full set themselves once upon a time (the latter example is very relevant - using older male personalities as part of awareness campaigns did a lot to encourage testing).

Pallisers · 16/08/2022 01:08

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:02

Just out of interest, would the pitchforks be out if it was a trans man or non binary person appointed?

Pitchforks? Bit of an overreaction to what is a disagreement with the decision. no one is marching on anything.

No problem with a transman. If the non binary person is a non binary person who has periods - then no problem there either.

Waiting4baby2 · 16/08/2022 01:10

It’s not that I think a man couldn’t do this job, but the fact that he’s a man combined with him saying this ‘‘It’s about making people aware of the availability of period products for anyone of any gender, whenever they need it.” and “this isn’t just a female topic, encouraging conversations across all genders” Shows it is political. It’s a sign of our times that a man is taking centre stage on a womens issue and telling us it’s not a women’s issue.

FlorettaB · 16/08/2022 01:11

That’s the best they could do? Really? A man who used to work for Imperial Tobacco? And he’s going to teach us about the menopause too! A mansplaning multitasker.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:11

Thanks pallisers.

Theres has been pitchforks though; the blokes been attacked for the colour of his shirt, he’s had direct attacks on why he would want the job that are obviously meant to be indirect accusations and he’s been accused of mansplaining from a still photo.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 16/08/2022 01:13

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:02

Just out of interest, would the pitchforks be out if it was a trans man or non binary person appointed?

Is he a transman or non binary?

FlorettaB · 16/08/2022 01:14

’We’ll also raise awareness of the menopause, which, although a natural process for women, has wider repercussions in the world of work and family.’

Mansplaining.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:15

I don’t know him, he might be he might not be. That’s his business. Just interested in the thinking around it.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:16

FlorettaB · 16/08/2022 01:14

’We’ll also raise awareness of the menopause, which, although a natural process for women, has wider repercussions in the world of work and family.’

Mansplaining.

Factual statement of part of the project work.

ScotInExile · 16/08/2022 01:19

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:02

Just out of interest, would the pitchforks be out if it was a trans man or non binary person appointed?

What a ridiculous question. It's biology that's important here, this has nothing to do with gender identity. Why did you feel the need to attempt to turn this conversation into one about gender identity?

LoveMeForARaisin · 16/08/2022 01:20

Waiting4baby2 · 16/08/2022 01:10

It’s not that I think a man couldn’t do this job, but the fact that he’s a man combined with him saying this ‘‘It’s about making people aware of the availability of period products for anyone of any gender, whenever they need it.” and “this isn’t just a female topic, encouraging conversations across all genders” Shows it is political. It’s a sign of our times that a man is taking centre stage on a womens issue and telling us it’s not a women’s issue.

This 👏🏻

FlorettaB · 16/08/2022 01:22

Apologies for the link but the Times article is behind a paywall

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11114141/Woman-55-wins-discrimination-claim-boss-said-dont-let-hormones-control.html

This is the kind of attitude older women already have to put up with in the workplace.

Whohastheenergyfotthis · 16/08/2022 01:25

FlorettaB · 16/08/2022 01:11

That’s the best they could do? Really? A man who used to work for Imperial Tobacco? And he’s going to teach us about the menopause too! A mansplaning multitasker.

@FlorettaB I really do get the irritation about this, but he may well have been the best they could do. It doesn’t appear to be a high flying role in terms of pay and conditions and having experience of how messaging works “on the dark side” can be a asset in these sorts of roles, which tend to have minimal funding for promotion etc. It’s bad optically, but I ultimately it may really just have been the case that he was the most qualified. They have committed to the gender inclusivity schtick generally so it makes sense that some of these roles will go to women, nbs, men and trans men. I doubt he’ll be that involved is setting the entire programme agenda.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:29

ScotInExile · 16/08/2022 01:19

What a ridiculous question. It's biology that's important here, this has nothing to do with gender identity. Why did you feel the need to attempt to turn this conversation into one about gender identity?

It’s not ridiculous, I was genuinely interested.

(And for all we know he could be.)

it was based on the comments making aspirations (sp?) about his motives. My next question would have been what if he was gay but no need to ask that if people are objecting due to him being male alone.

Theres an interesting debate to be had about the role of lived experience in service provision and whether you must have lived something to be able to manage it.

As an aside as a recruiting manager in a local authority it’s actually very hard to get people for jobs at that level at the moment. Obviously I don’t know what the application pool was like for that specific post but based on recent experience it may not have been large.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:29

Oh it’s also fixed term, really difficult to recruit for right now.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 16/08/2022 01:31

What has sexuality got to do with menstruation.

Festoonlights · 16/08/2022 01:31

Waiting4baby2 · 16/08/2022 01:10

It’s not that I think a man couldn’t do this job, but the fact that he’s a man combined with him saying this ‘‘It’s about making people aware of the availability of period products for anyone of any gender, whenever they need it.” and “this isn’t just a female topic, encouraging conversations across all genders” Shows it is political. It’s a sign of our times that a man is taking centre stage on a womens issue and telling us it’s not a women’s issue.

Of course he has been deliberately appointed to remind all stupid women everywhere that ‘people’ have periods not women duh, and to ram home the fact. Next he will be giving out feee period products to men like mother Teresa to show us all what a hero and male saviour he is and telling us all you don’t actually need a womb or cervix to have periods at all. Another woke appointment based on everything BUT women’s and girls needs again.it is beyond depressing.

Any decent person would have turned it down due to a lack of direct experience, competence and authenticity alone.

LiveintheNow · 16/08/2022 01:32

I am failing to see "the best person for the job"s project management experience.

Also can't wait to see the new video which will educate us on "availability of period products for anyone of any gender". I am sure it will be nice and clear.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:33

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 16/08/2022 01:31

What has sexuality got to do with menstruation.

If people are alleging he has nefarious reasons to want to get close to young girls sexuality is relevant. And they have been.

FlorettaB · 16/08/2022 01:33

A trans man wouldn’t be an issue. Someone who actually understands what it’s like to have periods and the fear, shame and general embarrassment around periods and sanitary products would be at a huge advantage.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 16/08/2022 01:36

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:33

If people are alleging he has nefarious reasons to want to get close to young girls sexuality is relevant. And they have been.

Ah I see. For me sexuality isn’t at all relevant but having a man fronting a largely womens/girls issue is the issue.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:37

Perhaps you might like to read the legislative guidance. Products must be made available to men - by the law. That’s something to legitimately take up with the SG as is the language as I pointed out earlier. Local authorities colleges etc cannot just not implement it if it’s in law. It’s not to do with this guy - and I can 100 guarantee again noone in local authorities/college is going around deliberately appointing men no matter what the SG agenda might be.

I can link to the SG guidance if anyone is genuinely interested.

RJnomore1 · 16/08/2022 01:38

(Sorry @Whowhatwherewhenwhynow thst wasn’t directly to you)

heyaoife · 16/08/2022 01:39

Pallisers · 16/08/2022 00:57

Next they will be hiring MALE GYNAECOLOGISTS and MALE MIDWIVES to peek up women's private parts.

Oh the hysteria. Love the CAPS. But well done for not including "pearl clutching" in your post.

Many women would prefer not to be treated by a male gynae or a male midwife. My friend who was digitally raped by her first gynae as a teen certainly wouldn't. I would not consent to a mammogram performed by a male nurse - nothing to do with him personally but those are my boundaries.

If you are going to discuss this at least avoid ridiculing women's hard-earned worries about men having access to their vaginas.

guffaw...kensington.

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