Tell me this is not real please. Scotland's first period dignity officer is a man. A MAN.

[Rainbowshit]

I just can't put into words how furious this makes me. Females are having the pis absolutely ripped out of them in Scotland.

What the fuck would a male understand about the indignity of realising you'd leaked through onto your clothes.

About the cold fear when your period is late.

About trying to unwrap a tampon quietly. Etc etc.

I suppose the only saving grace is at least they are not claiming to be a woman.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/3593497/dundee-man-leading-period-poverty-fight-how-to-get-free-products/

@IrisVersicolor
Systemic racism manifests in institutional and structural racism.

Its more accurate to say that systemic racism (racism that is system/society wide) usually aligns with institutional racism (racism by individual public or private entities). But that’s not always the case, there is also institutional racism that runs counter to systemic racism. Recent cases include:

RAF (public entity) currently all job offers to white male recruits have effectively been paused to meet diversity targets, defence sources have claimed. Women and ethnic minorities are reportedly being favoured in recruitment drives to meet 'impossible' targets, which has prompted the Head of Recruitment at the RAF to resign in protest.

24-hour Jet garage in Belle Vue Way, Hartlepool (private entity) sacked all white workers and replaced them with Asian workers. One, a cashier, Mrs Rowntree pursued a claim for racial discrimination, and an industrial tribunal at Thornaby found in her favour. She was awarded almost £5,000 in damages and loss of earnings.

London Underground (public entity) An employment tribunal ruled that station supervisor Tom Mahoney, 58, was discriminated against by Tube bosses on the grounds of his race after he complained he had been intimidated by a black worker. Mr Mahoney, who has 25 years' service and led 500 passengers off a train along the tracks to safety after the 7 July bombings, said his allegations of bullying against co-worker Daniel Jean-Marie were not acted upon because he was white.

Birk Holdings (private entity) James Heeley said he was repeatedly teased about his nationality by colleagues who asked whether he was 'still drunk' and accused him of being workshy. The transport administrator was one of five white British employees out of 16 staff., which put him in the minority. He overheard boss Gurvinder Singh Birk, saying: 'No more English drivers should be used as they are lazy and only interested in claiming benefits.' Senior employees had said, 'English drivers do drive slowly' and that Mr Heeley did 'not do a lot of work because he's English'. Mr Birk also told another senior employee not to hire British workers because they 'can turn you down easily and claim benefits.' Mr Augustis allegedly said to Mr Heeley: 'Lazy English workers are always off sick,' the tribunal was told. At the tribunal another employee had argued that the comments were 'mere jokes'. An employment tribunal found Mr Heeley was the victim of race discrimination and harassment and ordered his former employer to pay him £2,500 compensation.

So? What are you on about?
You said education of young boys regarding periods is useless because they’re predestined to grow up to be twats or decent. I say well thats odd because with education of young boys regarding consent, the experts agree it reduces sexual assault. Point being that no boy is predestined to be a twatty period bully or rapist so, education might not be as useless as you think it is. Finito.

Racism on an individual level always has systemic racism behind it because individual racism does not exist vacuum. It emerges from a society's foundational beliefs which manifest in systems, institutions and organisations.

No, not always. Just like with institutional racism, there are many cases of inter-personal racism that do not align with systemic racism, but run counter to it. The The BBC article I posted earlier regarding the increase in racist incidents against white people in Scotland is a record of interpersonal racism against white people, which is counter to the systemic racism in the U.K. that favours white people. I could dig up specific cases, but it’s pretty late.

Now this isn’t to say that systemic racism cannot be a reason why in some cases institutional and inter-personal racism against white people happens. But that cause-effect relationship between the two doesn’t cancel out the existence of racism against white people anymore than it cancels out racism against all other races.

Well yes, some experience. That's usually why the word experience is used in job descriptions.

This is next level behaviour even for you.

This man has no PM experience, no female period experience and has been placed into the role using dubious methods. Just because he has a penis you think he is literally god's gift to females. And this level of wage is not entry level.

It really is quite fascinating watching you come up with ever more insane nonsense to centre males.

I beg to differ, it’s quite possible to have had local level project management experience as an account manager and well being officer at a college.

“Female period experience” isn’t a requirement for the role, nor should it be as he’s not delivering healthcare or counselling services.

has been placed into the role using dubious methods. there’s no evidence of this, merely speculation and perverse hope that the hiring decision made by women wasn’t water tight.

And this level of wage is not entry level. It is for a project management role. The average salary for a project manager in the U.K. is £58k almost twice the £33k of this position. A senior project manager (one with ~3yrs experience) average is £68k.

Just because he has a penis you think he is literally god's gift to females.
Please don’t make up shit about me to suit your narrative.

It really is quite fascinating watching you come up with ever more insane nonsense to centre males.

It really is quite fascinating to watch you come up with sexist nonsense to justify the inherent misogyny in asserting that four senior female managers must be completely incapable of hiring support staff for the project team that works for them because they hired one man for one position.

@Discovereads

Its more accurate to say that systemic racism (racism that is system/society wide) usually aligns with institutional racism (racism by individual public or private entities). But that’s not always the case, there is also institutional racism that runs counter to systemic racism.

No, it’s not more accurate it’s less accurate - institutions are part of society. You’re simply tying yourself in knots because you cannot or refuse to grasp white privilege and the difference between discrimination, prejudice and racism.

Every single one of your examples was white. You confuse diversity targets, discrimination, xenophobia with actual racism. I’m not prepared to waste any more time in discussion with someone reading from a white script that could have been written by EDL.

@IrisVersicolor I think there is though, I think that’s why people use terms like “systemic racism” to distinguish it from “racism”. I think when people use the term racism, they often don’t use it to mean “systemic racism”, they sometimes are just referring to people, for example, making discriminatory remarks based on ethnicity or skin colour without implying the cause or source of this belief. It doesn’t preclude the influence of systemic causes from their meaning but it doesn’t necessarily encompass them and presuming it does leads to misunderstanding.

A lot of people accept and abhor the existence of or incidences of racism without believing in or considering a systemic cause, that’s just not what they mean by the term racism even if it’s what you think they should mean. It’s possible the majority of people think racism comes from some something like a combination of an innate human tendency to dislike people we perceive as very different from us and a tendency to be rude and disrespectful generally, they see being racist as a personal failing. This isn’t my really perspective but I’m certain that is what a lot of people are thinking of when they use the term from the context of what they say. That’s why the term “racist” can be so offensive to people, despite the fact that a systemic lens for understanding racism doesn’t even require individuals with racist beliefs or intent for it to exist, it just requires racist outcomes.

It’s just more appropriate to accept the term racism refers broadly to discrimination based on race, and then you can absolutely debate the causes of it and why the focus should be at the system level and institutional level.

It is more accurate. Everything is part of society, but not everything aligns with the systemic racism in society. Systemic racism isn’t all of society, it runs through society like a cancer. Under your mixed up logic because BLM (which is an institution) is “part of society” then it must also be systemically racist towards black people. Because that’s what you’re arguing. That everything part of society is also contributing to systemic racism. That’s not reality.

refuse to grasp white privilege and the difference between discrimination, prejudice and racism.. We haven’t even discussed white privilege so not sure how I can have refused anything regarding white privilege. I’m so sorry but you have demonstrated you don’t know the difference between discrimination, prejudice and racism.

Every single one of your examples was white Ok, so please don’t call white people ‘white’ or ‘whites’ that’s derogatory when talking about any group of human beings. Yes all my examples of institutional and interpersonal racism involved white victims because you insist (wrongly) that white people cannot experience racism. That’s the common thread in our discussion. It was also gone midnight and while I could have pulled up examples of institutional abd interpersonal racism against other ethnic groups, what would be the point? You do understand that racism against these groups exist so why post a wall of text on something we agree on?

You confuse diversity targets, discrimination, xenophobia with actual racism
Er no I don’t. I posted actual racism cases where victims have been awarded compensation for racial discrimination (racism) or upper managers have resigned in protest. And it’s surprising you are unaware that diversity targets have been unsuccessfully used to try and justify racism as several court cases show.

I rather think you are very confused by insisting that racial discrimination is racism for everyone except white people in which case it’s just discrimination when discrimination is an umbrella term. That’s utter nonsense, . And you don’t seem to grasp that xenophobia isn’t really a kind of racism where all the victims are white people. Xenophobia is basically equal opportunity fear of everyone and everything “foreign” regardless of race. The other, racism, is hate of everyone of a different race or a view that your own race is the superior race.

@Disbeliefisnotanargument

The term systemic racism is not used to distinguish it from racism it’s simply defining an aspect of its manifestation.

So racism is now being defined as what the majority of white people might think or believe about it, ok.

I mean the more appropriate thing would actually pay attention to the meaning of and contemporary discussion of racism as defined by the people it affects.

@Discovereads

@IrisVersicolor I’m not prepared to waste any more time in discussion with someone reading from a white script that could have been written by EDL.

So racism is now being defined as what the majority of white people might think or believe about it, ok. I mean the more appropriate thing would actually pay attention to the meaning of and contemporary discussion of racism as defined by the people it affects.

No the definition of racism hasn’t been changed. It’s also the same definition no matter where you go globally, so not “what the majority of white people might think or believe about it”.

I didn’t say it had changed.

The point is that erroneous ideas about it from white people who have never engaged with its meaning are irrelevant to the actual definitions of racism.

Isn't this project about Scottish girls?

Not about men, or rasicm?

But hey lets talk about everything else other than girls.

@IrisVersicolor

”I mean the more appropriate thing would actually pay attention to the meaning of and contemporary discussion of racism as defined by the people it affects.”

I don’t disagree that systemic and institutional racism are the most important level of discussion here, I’m just defending the common usage of the term because it is the common usage. I think often for people of colour too. I accept systemic racism is what we really want to be addressing, in the same way systemic sexism or patriarchy is the more important discussion in feminism. Not all feminism is radical, I wish it was, but I also know people have very liberal/4th wave feminist views which is likely what the majority of people mean when they talk about “feminism”, even women. That’s why even if radical feminists describe their views as real feminism, it just doesn’t wash with a lot people, they remain to be convinced.
I think T1J has a good balanced take on this, he’s black and American and talks about race quite a bit in his content, he probably makes this point far better than I’m currently making it, it’s less than 10 mins and worth watching
Can black people be racist?

Take a look at some of the comments on the video too, there appears to be quite a bit of agreement on this from people of colour, though obviously it’s his audience so they’re always going to be more in agreement with him than the average person.

What's hilarious ... and by hilarious, I mean goady bullshit, is the posters all over all the threads about this trying to justify it whilst misrepresenting the Equality Act; employment law; the role's job description. When you have to do that much reaching, it would be better to retreat gracefully.

It's as though they think mediocre white men don't have enough promoted posts that they're underqualified for ... despite all the evidence that shows women are the ones under-represented.

There is no aspect of this which a male candidate with his experience is uniquely qualified for ... in fact, by the very act of applying, he has shown he doesn't understand period stigma at all. And by his use of the word 'gender', he has illustrated a lack of understanding of both gender and sex. Pretty basic components for a job about aspects of female reproductive health.

By all means, employ him to talk to the boys about periods - because God forbid, boys are expected to learn anything from women even when women have more experience in the area. But this <waves hands at the nepotism, self-publicity, the many ways in which he has already shown he doesn't understand biology, girls and women> is bullshit. And he knows it's bullshit. And the people who employed him know it too.

@Discovereads

Do you work for Grainger PR or Dundee College? Or are you secretly Mr Grant?

@moominunderthesink my bet is on the pr firm.

So now it has been reported by the Courier that Jason is on 'annual leave' (for a job he just started?) and cannot be reached. Furthermore, he has deleted his own Twitter account (which had a new profile picture of him grinning in a bright red shirt announcing his new post).

He may well be on AL because he hasn't started the post yet.

I would also delete my twitter account (and probably be hiding under the bedcovers) if I'd got this much negative press & was facing being cancelled. I can only imagine the kind of DMs he's getting.

I don't agree with the hire, but he has been hired, and I think some of this veers into bullying tbh.

@leafyygreens
Yes, I think quite a few of backlash comments have been online bullying.

I think that’s a question for @PeriodBro

@Discovereads

I'm quite happy I directed the question to you.

Given the media storm this appointment has generated, you are one of the only " supportive" voices I have seen. I'm sure it is not lost on you, why I find it interesting why you are so determined to advocate the appointment, despite the overwhelming negative response to Jason. It is a valid question.

Oh, may I suggest you read the full thread then? As I have explained the reasons why in depth and with examples. I don’t think I’m “particularly determined” but rather have re-answered the same question asked of me multiple times. So, there’s repetition in there. But now, I’m more apt to say, if you genuinely don’t know why I have no issue with a man doing this job and disagree with only allowing women to do this job, then please RTFT you’ll find the answers you seek, many of them more than once.

The appointment was a horrific mistake for all the reasons already outlined on this thread.

but the bullying and personal attacks on this guy don’t sit right with me. He’s a human being.

I would also think many of the online posts on here and other online social media channels are verging on online bullying too.

As I have said previously, let him begin his post first before you make any judgement or cast any stones.