Tell me this is not real please. Scotland's first period dignity officer is a man. A MAN.

[Rainbowshit]

I just can't put into words how furious this makes me. Females are having the pis absolutely ripped out of them in Scotland.

What the fuck would a male understand about the indignity of realising you'd leaked through onto your clothes.

About the cold fear when your period is late.

About trying to unwrap a tampon quietly. Etc etc.

I suppose the only saving grace is at least they are not claiming to be a woman.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/3593497/dundee-man-leading-period-poverty-fight-how-to-get-free-products/

If it's a 'getting products from A to B' role or managing the rollout of free products then why not advertise it as Logistics Manager?

I honestly can't think of a reason right now why anyone would be upset THAT specific role, advertised as such, was given to a man if he was the best qualified and had the most experience.

But Period Dignity Lead Officer, you'd be expecting someone who, at the very least, had years of experience and a varied career in stuff like youth work / social work / community outreach etc, and really considering the job role says there WILL be outreach and it's all about "empowering and encouraging" young girls, it should have an exemption under the equality act to hire a woman. On what planet could young girls going through puberty be encouraged and empowered about periods by a 30-something man?

and it's all about "empowering and encouraging" young girls, it should have an exemption under the equality act to hire a woman. On what planet could young girls going through puberty be encouraged and empowered about periods by a 30-something man?

The project aims to empower and encourage communities including young women.

For example:

5. Provide support to the project team in identifying, developing and facilitating events and activities that engage our communities and young people, creating opportunities for learning, networking, and accessing free products, (with a particular focus on identifying barriers to access and reducing the stigma around menstruation and period products.

I'd really like to know whether any middleaged women applied for the role.

No, we are being technically accurate by calling a PM role a PM role. It’s not minimising anything to seek to inform posters specifically what type of role this is.

They see him as unfit for a role of ‘period dignity officer’ for reasons that have been explained very clearly and they are entitled to that opinion without being labelled sexist.

Yes the reason is he’s not a woman so he’s never had a period. Which is not a requirement needed to fulfil this role at all and so insisting that he cannot do the job because he’s not a woman is sexism.

For other pen pushers obviously.

with a particular focus on identifying barriers to access and reducing the stigma around menstruation and period products

What happens if he identifies the giant fucking barrier? The really, really huge fucking barrier?

Will he disappear up his own arsehole and create a rift in the time space continuum?

I see Discover has resorted to chucking around baseless insults based on her own bizarre determination to be a male apologist,

How am I a male apologist when I’m literally defending the hiring decision of four senior women?

There's no point talking to someone who's ignoring the facts that don't suit her agenda
Yes, let’s silence the women on the thread that have PM experience and listen to the person with zero PM experience who can’t read a basic PM job description without getting confused and claiming it says something completely different from what is actually written. Wonder who’s ignoring facts here?

The insistence of being happy with centring a man in a public role where he's been appointed as a spearhead for women's rights and women's services is just mind blowing. But then, there's plenty of handmaidens willing to support male agendas to the detriment of their fellow women, as a couple of people here have aptly demonstrated.

Thats not the role though. He’s not spearheading anything. Also, again how can I be a handmaiden for supporting the hiring decision of 4 senior women managers who actually know more about this project and the man they hired to do the project management for them.

Pretty funny you accuse me of “baseless insults” when you’re in the same breath calling me and others “male apologists” and “handmaidens” when all I’ve done is point out correctly that your views are sexist. That’s not a personal insult btw. And it’s not baseless. Saying a man cannot do a job because he’s not a woman is sexist when it is this type of role.

Four of them (100%) are on the working team who are leading the project

GAH

He is not the one identifying barriers.

He is supporting a working group who will be conducting research which aims to identfiy barriers.

I'll post the full paragraph again

1. Provide support to the project team in identifying, developing and facilitating events and activities that engage our communities and young people, creating opportunities for learning, networking, and accessing free products, (with a particular focus on identifying barriers to access and reducing the stigma around menstruation and period products.

I just think this thread is actively damaging to women's rights by providing a smokescreen of something to get distracted about, when there are so many genuine things to be fighting for.

I think it could be good for young boys to see a man talking about periods and related issues in a neutral, factual way, without embarrassment. Boys need to understand the menstrual cycle too. Surely this is an important part of destigmatising it. It doesn't seem like he's trying to appropriate the actual experience of having periods.

They're completely different jobs and would presumably have higher grades, higher salaries, different KPIs, different experience, more relevant qualifications, and so on.

I asked about this job. How many middleaged women applied for this particular role?

@Discovereads i think you protest too much and are purposefully ignoring the wider context and not to mention power dynamics around this. This hasn’t happened in a vacuum - it has happened in a very specific cultural and political climate wherein increasingly women feel their boundaries are being stepped on in the name of inclusivity. People aren’t upset about this because they don’t understand what a project manager is or because they are sexist.

It’s probably already been said, but an “officer” in LA-speak just means line manager. It’s not a euphemism for fully-accredited PM.

he’s probably got a team of female assistants answering to him. Showing them how feminism im should be done. (Props to the onion article posted up thread).

Given that it's 18 months fixed term graduate position, on a very low salary, I imagine not many middle aged people applied.

They probably struggled to recruit.

I don't understand why you're clamouring that a woman must have been passed over for the job.

Sorry but feelings of being upset don’t justify the rampant sex discrimination or the vitriol levelled towards this man who has been hired to do a job that either sex could do that I’ve seen on this thread and social media today. Or the blatant efforts to spread misinformation about the role specifically to create outrage.

This is a dark day for equality and feminism. And it’s depressing really. Feel like it 1992 again and women will be culturally and socially limited to working womens issues and men all the other issues again. What I and others fought so hard to break out of.

You can’t close the gender gap in PM if all the womens issues must have female PMs, that will mean just another excuse why a woman can’t work other initiatives because she’s needed for projects about babies, children, periods, menopause, FGM, breast cancer, DV, rape, and the list goes on. There aren’t enough of us to do both.

You do know Onion is a fake news site? It’s articles are fiction for entertainment.

@Discovereads 😂🙄 of course, but I’ve got a bit of time to explain the article for you and help you draw parallels. I can explain it for you, but I can’t understand it for you. But do let me know if you’d like me to walk you through it.

FYI - satire is not “fake news” and it’s its. 😁

Given no one on this thread can answer a question about other applicants, perhaps someone wants to send an FOI request to ask how many and gender split, no idea if it would competent under the legislation though.

Mind you even if you did get it, when I advertise at that level I get applications from people with absolutely no experience chancing their arm, think burger van chef applying for a post with a particular qualification needed so it might not tell you very much anyway.

And there it is. Always back to the boys. Boys are educated at school about menstruation. The very point of this role is to support WOMEN and GIRLS.

It’s a dark day for women when men are given carte Blanche again to take over a role that they have no hope of fulfilling with any authority or authenticity.

It’s a dark day for women when men are given carte Blanche again to take over a role that they have no hope of fulfilling with any authority or authenticity.

Have you read the job specification? @Festoonlights

There's been a few mentions of 4 women who are the senior managers on the working team and who are leading the project.

Can someone please link to the article or other information source which states this as I've not seen a source for this elsewhere. To be fair, I may have missed it but it would be useful to have it confirmed.

Where have I posted misinformation?

And questioning my motivations is not on. You are way out of order.

I posted quotes from the newspaper article.

Indeed. And a nice bit of accusation/questioning of the motivations of any women who dare to speak about the subject, too. Odd, isn't it?