Tell me this is not real please. Scotland's first period dignity officer is a man. A MAN.

[Rainbowshit]

I just can't put into words how furious this makes me. Females are having the pis absolutely ripped out of them in Scotland.

What the fuck would a male understand about the indignity of realising you'd leaked through onto your clothes.

About the cold fear when your period is late.

About trying to unwrap a tampon quietly. Etc etc.

I suppose the only saving grace is at least they are not claiming to be a woman.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/3593497/dundee-man-leading-period-poverty-fight-how-to-get-free-products/

I suppose you’d rather go back to the government not giving a shit about anything that affects girls and women.

I'd rather women were in roles like 'period dignity officer'.

It is no wonder women are completely and utterly fucking screwed when the male apologists scramble over every tiny win making sure men get centred.

I'm not sure how pointing out misinformation on the thread is being a male apologist

As has been said multiple times, the women who are leading the project were happy with the recruitment. Presumably they know more about Jason's role as PM than you do.

Having a male administrator under female experts is refreshing, IMO.

the women who are leading the project were happy with the recruitment.

Couldn't care less. The women who matter are the women he's supposed to be serving/targeting/inspiring. Of which I am one, I presume, being a woman in Scotland. And I say no, thank you.

I see you started a new thread on this which is chock full of misinformation, especially written by @SpidersAreShitheads

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4612399-dundee-man-leads-fight-against-period-poverty

I am wondering about your motivations? You seem awfully invested in trying to whip up outrage over nothing.

The women on the project were happy, other women are not. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I really wouldn't worry about the Police investigating your 'illegal' posts, Palliser. That poster seems to not have a particularly good handle on, variously, the EQA2010, the occupational exemptions/single sex exemptions of the same, positive action, or employment policies generally.

The women on the project were happy, other women are not. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@IrisVersicolor

But the women who are unhappy are predominantly complaining about a man leading the campaign, being the face of it, or being involved in interviewing young women. These are all legitimate concerns, but this isn't what the job entails.

Presumably the woman on the project have a better understanding of what his role is, rather than randoms on the internet going on a media headline desgined outrage and manipulate.

I remember Boris Johnson being absolutely ridiculed for those PR stunts!

What is the difference here?
It is a demeaning PR stunt as if they know what they are doing or talking about...

I ridiculed the Boris ones and still find this one ridiculous!
What's your point? we shouldn't call out the BS because it is funded by the public sector? The sector is trying hard so we should be kind and ignore?

I should believe Boris actually had a clue or cared what lab techs did or that he was capable of delivering change for that industry?

Boris did it does not make this acceptable! 😳 it shows it up for being the opposite!
Gosh give them a baby to cuddle next for the pics!

If you read the thread they’re unhappy about the first period dignity officer for the Tay region being male. Intentionally or not he has become figurehead for the new initiative.

They’re entitled to be even if you don’t understand or agree with it.

No one’s “entitled” to a sexist opinion.

In fairness, @IrisVersicolor we have no way of knowing whether the women were happy or not.

As a PP on this thread pointed out, the orders on who to recruit may have come from higher up and quite often in this situations it's career suicide to be the dissenting voice.

But yes, you're right the vast majority of women on this thread and the other thread from yesterday over in Feminism can see what's really going on and aren't happy.

I'm about to go out with DD but I just popped to see the latest comments. I see Discover has resorted to chucking around baseless insults based on her own bizarre determination to be a male apologist, exactly as @AlisonDonut points out. There's no point talking to someone who's ignoring the facts that don't suit her agenda, so I'm going to mute this and duck back out.

The insistence of being happy with centring a man in a public role where he's been appointed as a spearhead for women's rights and women's services is just mind blowing. But then, there's plenty of handmaidens willing to support male agendas to the detriment of their fellow women, as a couple of people here have aptly demonstrated.

I'm off. Have a good day, all.

😂 Sexist in your opinion.

As an aside - of course people are entitled to sexist opinions - if they express them widely in the media they run into criticism but they’re perfectly at liberty to think what they like nonetheless.

Perfectly true.

Why are people trying to gaslight us into believing that this will be a very hands off PM grunt role only and there will be no talking to young girls when we can ALL read what the job description says.

"Project leadership....This will include engaging with staff, partners, communities and young people"

If you're having to lie to get your point across then maybe you know you're on the wrong here?

If he's a glorified pen-pusher, who is he supposed to be a good role model for?

Many people have pointed out what the term "engagement" means in a PM role, and linked to items in the job description

@Discovereads its not sexist though is it? That would imply the women who take issue with this have a dislike for men and that’s why they don’t want him in the role. They see him as unfit for a role of ‘period dignity officer’ for reasons that have been explained very clearly and they are entitled to that opinion without being labelled sexist.
Posters on here defending this keep referring to his ‘PM role’ because they can’t even bring themselves to say ‘period dignity officer’ because they are trying to minimise this and make anyone who disagrees look hysterical.

I keep using the term "project manager" because that's what the job is and it's a term everyone understands

Officer (period dignity or otherwise) is pretty meaningless unless you work in a public sector job.

@Discovereads i genuinely can’t agree more with this and as the threads went on I’m more and more convinced that some posters are just here to stir up a furore about a non existent problem.

Now if anyone wants to question why the legislation sbd guidance has no mention of women at all, and actively tries to steer delivery agencies away from using it, that would be interesting.

Well quite. He doesn't seem to I think he's a glorified pen pusher now does he?

because they are trying to minimise this and make anyone who disagrees look hysterical.

Nope, I'd just suggest anyone who has concerns to first go to the link where the job is described, and then download the specification.

It's pretty definitive on what the role actually entails.

@Discovereads i genuinely can’t agree more with this and as the threads went on I’m more and more convinced that some posters are just here to stir up a furore about a non existent problem.
Now if anyone wants to question why the legislation sbd guidance has no mention of women at all, and actively tries to steer delivery agencies away from using it, that would be interesting.

This

Good to see this appointment getting widely criticised across the media today. Several of us pointed out at the start of the thread, this is another SNP play and you must be running a river behind your ears if you think otherwise.

At least women in Scotland are getting their views heard by other parts of the U.K., as there’s no fucking chance of that these days in Scotland. This is pure PR stunt politics (I use the word ‘politics’ loosely when it comes to the SNP) BS spun by Sturgeon’s local council minions, to the detriment of women. Shameful.

‘Now if anyone wants to question why the legislation sbd guidance has no mention of women at all, and actively tries to steer delivery agencies away from using it, that would be interesting.’

I agree with this but think it’s two sides of the same coin - hiring a man in this role and for him to talk about ‘menstruating young people’ etc are both ways of erasing women which are stemming from this guidance and the Scottish government’s agenda. At least it has created enough outrage that more women will wake up to what’s going on.