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Guilt Free Railing 20

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WouldBeGood · 14/04/2022 22:48

The curtain call.

May this thread be empty 😃

All good news welcome too, to go along with railing, guilt free

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boobashka · 02/05/2022 13:27

I've already voted by post. Voted for the Lib Dem as he's a very active local Councillor who works hard locally. Also voted Tory for their policy on women and to counteract the snp votes!

boobashka · 02/05/2022 13:29

Yes, like @BinBandit my priorities are: 1. To beat the snp and 2. To stand up for the rights of women.

BinBandit · 02/05/2022 13:29

If anyone else is voting against the SNP rather than for someone else, this article tells you who to vote for:
www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/tactical-voting-guide-give-nats-26308671

JenniferAlisonPhilipaSue · 02/05/2022 13:54

I'll probably vote Tory although the Labour Councillors are more 'visible' (but don't really achieve anything!)

mapleleavesreturn · 02/05/2022 14:08

My local Lib Dem councillor is great so she's my 1st pref, the Tory one isn't bad either so he's second, prob Labour 3 and leave it at that.

KnitPurlKnitPurl · 02/05/2022 18:14

We have a good Indy candidate round here so he's getting my first vote, then Con, then Lab.

WouldBeGood · 02/05/2022 20:11

Thanks @BinBandit

I’m voting Tory because of their pledge to guarantee singje sex spaces for women across council facilities

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bettyswaps1 · 02/05/2022 22:05

Does anyone know what the current guidance is for mask wearing in secondary schools? The last I heard was just after Easter hols and the kids hands to wear them in school corridors and communal areas. I’m just wondering if that has all stopped now too since 1st of May?

WouldBeGood · 02/05/2022 22:16

All stopped @bettyswaps1 !

no legal requirement to wear anywhere in schools

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bettyswaps1 · 02/05/2022 22:23

WouldBeGood · 02/05/2022 22:16

All stopped @bettyswaps1 !

no legal requirement to wear anywhere in schools

Great news, thanks.

Scottishskifun · 03/05/2022 08:59

Railing today about SG/NS response to the court order to publish the legal guidance they were given over another referendum that they are considering the matter......

What's there to consider?????? A judge has told them they legally have to publish it under the informations act! Or are they above the law and court system now?!

BinBandit · 03/05/2022 09:11

They do think they are above the law. Don't worry though because I'm sure it will have disappeared down the back of the sofa and that sofa will have been donated to some poor family, and that house will have gone on fire..... and it's regrettable, mistakes have been made and lessons have been learned... and anyway, why don't you just believe what we say?

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/05/2022 09:26

Yep, the advice will be 'lost', or so heavily redacted that the meaning will be gone. But don't worry if the key information is missing because 3000 other emails will be released in the interests of 'openness and transparency' (in the hope that people won't bother to trawl through them all) and anyone who dares to question anything will be snippily told that they're being ridiculous and how dare they do Scotland down.

The whole thing reminds me of a Tweet I saw at the weekend where someone was (in jest) claiming to be seriously considering joining the SNP because then they could get away with literally anything. Things that would have you sacked or jailed in the real world are fine if you're SNP as long as you express 'regret' and state that lessons will be learnt, because after all 'these things happen'. No need to worry about book keeping or responsibly spending tax payers money - so a few billion are wasted, there's always more where that came from! If you are caught breaking your own laws as Nicola has on several occasions with masks and recently Mhairi Black with drinking on trains, you don't need to worry about being fined like ordinary plebs - the police will just politely remind you of the rules, you issue some kind of apology and that's that. And if you happen to be the leader all you have to do is say you're taking responsibility but there'll be no expectation that you'll actually act on it in any way. The Comms officer tweeting about the SNP's 'Gravy bus' has it spot on.

mapleleavesreturn · 03/05/2022 10:36

The mask wearing is definitely falling off steeply, it's energising me a bit. Although I can't seriously believe the SNP are going to go hell for leather for a referendum in 2023, I'm surely not alone in having had enough of seeing politicians to last several years.

Surely most people are prioritising all the things they couldn't do in lockdowns and wanting mostly for the healthcare systems to get back to normal and clear backlogs?

The overdue referrals are much more important to me than constitutional questions.

KnitPurlKnitPurl · 03/05/2022 12:09

Absolutely mask wearing has dropped off a cliff. We were at the theatre last night and it was about 2%.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/05/2022 13:19

Railing that the Scottish NHS under the SNP is so shit that it's actually risking lives. This woman, who it turned out actually had breast cancer, was refused a mammagram in Edinburgh 3 times because she was over 70, before eventually contacting Newcastle and getting the scan without a fuss. Humza's response? "Due to the pandemic, self-referrals for over-71s have been paused to prioritise capacity for those aged 50-70, for whom screening is recommended. We recognise the anxiety this may cause and are working to re- introduce self-referrals by autumn." Funny how Newcastle isn't using 'cos COVID' as an excuse for shit service, but apart from that, he recognises the anxiety?? How many other cases are going to missed before their aim of reintroducing self-referrals in autumn (assuming it doesn't slip into next year or beyond as these things often do)? Bunch of chancers. But sure, let's vote for independence and put them solely in charge of everything!

mapleleavesreturn · 03/05/2022 13:35

Plus you know, they're only women @Y0uCann0tBeSer10us who despite Nicola's folksy meno chat she has let down as a group time and again.

BinBandit · 03/05/2022 13:53

Not only are they women, they are older women who are basically invisible and probably don't vote SNP. She probably thought she'd managed to kill most of them off when she sent covid into care homes but hey ho.

She's a feminist to her fingertips, but doesn't explain that that her measurement starts at her fingernails.

Yousless still waiting his turn for the use of the SNP brain cell.

Dinoteeth · 03/05/2022 14:08

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us that's incredible. I'm surprised Newcastle didn't say no on the basis of not being from the correct area.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/05/2022 14:11

@Dinoteeth I don’t know the specifics, just what was reported, but I do know that cross border referrals aren’t unusual. Quite a few Scottish patients go down to England, particularly if we lack the expertise up here. For example I think all of the Scottish children who needed a liver transplant went down to England to have it done.

Dinoteeth · 03/05/2022 16:26

Yeah I knew that certain specialist stuff gets transferred round the country.
I didn't think individuals would be able to self-refer to England.

boobashka · 03/05/2022 17:34

Do we think that Nicla doesn't want to release the legal advice on a referendum because:
a) she is allowed to hold one but doesn't want the faithful to know this in case they put her under pressure to have one and she knows they can't win;
Or
b) she's not allowed to hold one but doesn't want the faithful to know before the elections in case they don't vote for her...?🤔

RaraRachael · 03/05/2022 17:50

Apparently she is going to have another referendum before the end of 2023 as there is growing support for it (not from anyone I know or read about anyway). She has said that if it's another No, she'll resign. Fingers crossed for both those outcomes but then she'll probably change her mind just like she did with the once in a generation referendum last time.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/05/2022 18:15

The secrecy is all very odd isn’t it, and definitely not positive for the Nationalists. I’m going for option B. I think the balance of legal opinion is that the SG can’t legally hold a referendum without the express permission of Westminster because constitutional matters are reserved under the Scotland Act. I suspect Sturgeon believes this too given she repeatedly falls back on the ‘Westminster will change its mind because of our however many mandates’ line and won’t commit to any another route when asked about this. Since quite a few nationalists are openly stating they don’t like the SNP and are just holding their nose to vote for them to get independence, I can see why she’d be desperate to keep any advice saying it isn’t happening under wraps!

The more interesting question is what excuse will there be to put it off this time, now that she’s quite vocally stated several times that it will be happening in 2023. We’ve done Brexit and COVID to death, they briefly tried to blame the Ukraine crisis but that didn’t wash, so what new excuse can they find to string along the believers until the 2024 Westminster election? No doubt an army of comms people are on it.

BinBandit · 03/05/2022 18:25

Ultimately I don't think that showing they've been told No is a bad thing from their pov. It's just another reason for the faithful to be mad at Boris and even more riled up? They'll just say that even more people need to vote for them to show that they have a mandate so any folk wavering will get back in line? Honestly I'm puggled to think about what they think as it defies every instinct I have and any logic that can be applied.