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WouldBeGood · 20/01/2022 11:45

Will it ever end?

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Lockdownbear · 13/02/2022 18:43

It’s now like they’re actually trying to piss people off!

That has crossed my mind. They are in a hole and want someone else to make the changes. Except its ages to the next Scottish elections.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 13/02/2022 19:00

Just last week they were proclaiming that they didn't have any power 'cos of big bad Westminster to do anything about the cost of living and in the next breath are talking about increasing people's costs. It would take me three hours each way to visit my parents by public transport, never mind the cost of the train for all of us to go. 45 minutes by car. And that's in the central belt. Sheesh.

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 13/02/2022 19:17

I can't remember what the toll was before it was scrapped. Let's conservatively say a pound each way.

That's £64 a month for DH and I, £80 if we go into the office each day (as we are technically both contracted to do).

That's not in our budget!

Oh and DS' Covid text just came back positive, so that's our holiday plans for half term canned.

Woop woop Hmm

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 13/02/2022 19:19

That's the real issue @WhatWouldTheDoctorDo

It would be impossible for me to get public transport to work and be there before about 11am! And who's going to look after the kids after 3pm?

Oh, after school club. At a cost of £360 per month, in addition to the fucking bridge tax of £800 a year.

They can utterly fuck off.

Cismyfatarse · 14/02/2022 08:32

I have to cross the Tay to get to and from work. I already pay £60 a month to park. Buses are hourly, if that,and late meetings often make it a long wait for a bus. Walking the bridge is a horrible experience with full day time traffic. Cycling is also pretty grim and the pollution from engines really sets off my asthma (I know, hypocrite here).

It all just makes me cross!!

WouldBeGood · 14/02/2022 08:35

If they want a greener society, which id like too, why don’t they start by improving public transport? And the infrastructure to make cities and towns more appealing and practical to walk/cycle around

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Lockdownbear · 14/02/2022 08:49

@WouldBeGood
Making the towns and cities better kind of misses the point that the towns and cities are dying because everything is out of town. Which in turn makes it harder to get to unless you are using a car.

It all needs to start with town planning, this is the same issue as Sauchiehall St dying. So many things are out of town and public transport just isn't set up to deal with it.

Public transport works well taking people to a hub like on a bike wheel. What's a pain is trying to get across to spokes on the other side or half way round. It would need to be more like a crazy spiders Web with transport going round as well as towards the centre

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 14/02/2022 09:02

@Cismyfatarse

I have to cross the Tay to get to and from work. I already pay £60 a month to park. Buses are hourly, if that,and late meetings often make it a long wait for a bus. Walking the bridge is a horrible experience with full day time traffic. Cycling is also pretty grim and the pollution from engines really sets off my asthma (I know, hypocrite here).

It all just makes me cross!!

Same here @Cismyfatarse and work way out of the city centre. And my town is down to one bus service now, I think it's goes twice an hour.

It's impossible to get the kids to school then us to work using public transport, impossible.

WouldBeGood · 14/02/2022 09:03

Yes, absolutely. A radical rethink is needed, not just charging people when there are no viable options.

I’d have more time for their green efforts too if the supposed Green Party wasn’t a weird one issue anti women party

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ResilienceWanker · 14/02/2022 09:16

Yes, that's precisely it lockdownbear! I work (tangentially) with planners/ developers and the "encouraging active and sustainable travel" is really just a sop to whatever policy is relevant at the time. They may say there are x bus routes within a 10 minute walk, or design a nice path from the nearest housing estate or whatever. But in reality, all the developers drive, they know all the people using or working at whatever it is will drive - so they don't care that the buses are only once every couple of hours and stop at 5pm, or people working there come from somewhere other than the centre of the nearest town, or that the lovely path will get overgrown, be poorly lit (probably coupled with an argument to do with ensuring bats or toads don't get freaked out or something) and be a magnet for local youths to drink and smoke in the evenings...

Ensuring sufficient electric car charging points is the New Thing. Which is all well and good, but has its own problems, and still requires people to drive.

I don't know what the answer is - even in cities - so in more remote, rural areas the whole reducing car use thing seems utterly unfeasible. And that sounds very pessimistic, I know.

ResilienceWanker · 14/02/2022 09:26

I quite liked the idea of the "Boris bikes" - where people could come into a transport hub, and then pick up a bike to take them a few miles somewhere else. If those were free and limitless, even better... But it still relies on people being relatively fit and healthy, and having decent cycling infrastructure... Having to carry round a helmet or similar. And still limits you to say, 5 miles or so. Plus, if you're in a transport hub, it's likely there would be another form of public transport to take you elsewhere in the city anyway.

Edinburgh stopped its Boris bike (sturgeon sycles?) scheme though, because they were being vandalised...

Maybe they should just give everyone a folding bike. Or even a normal bike. Or even just children... Hmm That should be an easy thing to do...

Lockdownbear · 14/02/2022 09:36

At one point all houses / flats in Edinburgh had to have a cupboard big enough to hold a bike, not sure if it's still the case.

Office people in theory should be able to get to work on public transport, not much to carry, in theory it's should work. Except I live in South Lanarkshire and work in an office park in North, 15-20mins by car an hour and half at least by bus. Sod that I still need to drop and collect my kids and then how do I get them home without a car?

WouldBeGood · 14/02/2022 09:51

Railing against the Valentine’s Special from NHS Lanarkshire. No words 🤣

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Lockdownbear · 14/02/2022 09:56

How much money do they waste on that stuff??

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 14/02/2022 09:58

@WouldBeGood

Railing against the Valentine’s Special from NHS Lanarkshire. No words 🤣
"Cases are high, but the impact is low, so forget about testing, on with life we all go"
ResilienceWanker · 14/02/2022 10:07

@WouldBeGood

Railing against the Valentine’s Special from NHS Lanarkshire. No words 🤣
WTAF - that doesn't even scan. youcannot's is much better! Grin

And yy to office parks. Great for those who drive or happen to live on a bus/ train route out of the city centre. Bad for those on another "spoke". A previous job I was in kept threatening to leave its nice city centre location and move to one of those out of town parks...lovely new offices blah blah. And, yes, while I could have got to it on the bypass (which we live quite near) in about 15 minutes, by public transport it would be a good 90 minutes, assuming everything tied up. Happily they didn't do that (but then I left anyway as they were twats).

WouldBeGood · 14/02/2022 10:18

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us that’s much better 🤣

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mapleleavesreturn · 14/02/2022 11:10

plus increasing travelling costs further incentivises city overcrowding - a lot of parks and primaries in the centre bursting at the seams as it is.

Ah it wouldn't be an occasion for merriment without scot gov releasing a dire advert to bring everyone down!

Scottishskifun · 14/02/2022 12:27

I used to get the train to work would walk 25 mins to the station (no bus available) followed by 40 min train journey and another 10 minutewalk other end. But it was notorious for being late or the sleeper getting stuck somewhere with all the trains stuck behind it! They then put the cost up so it was more expensive to get the train then drive and park my car!

If they want to encourage public transport use then they need to bring the cost down at over 2K a year for a train ticket it wasn't worth the cost or unreliability which now would be even worse with services cut!

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 14/02/2022 13:07

Violets are blue
Roses are red
But we won't be happy
'Till your noses have bled

Violets are blue
There's red in a rose
Celebrate Valentines
With a stick up the nose

Grin

I should be working but I'm really fucking bored...

Cismyfatarse · 14/02/2022 13:27

If I am allowed a small (big) thing after a shitty week. My car (15 years old) has just failed its pre MOT. We had dropped it off on Friday.

We have been saving for ages (DH won't do finance) and I have bought a (new to me) sexy red Fiat 500. I love really small cats for my city drive.

It is being delivered on Sunday so I will come out of isolation in style.

ResilienceWanker · 14/02/2022 13:46

My love is as true
As an arrow from a bow
Say that you love me
With a lateral flow

But if you've been coughing
Cant taste or feel hot
You can't come and kiss me
Til a PCR you've got

(harder than it looks actually...)

WouldBeGood · 14/02/2022 13:55

I love these poems!

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WouldBeGood · 14/02/2022 13:56

@Cismyfatarse that’s so exciting! Love Fiat 500s, and a red one sounds stylish

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readsalotgirl63 · 14/02/2022 14:00

Pre pandemic I got the train to work but it was so unreliable that often I would drive. I'm still mainly WFH but frequently get email alerts of delays or cancellations of the train so won't be using it.

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