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Guilt Free Railing 15

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WouldBeGood · 29/11/2021 21:21

The railing never ends.

No resilience wankery, all railing welcome, along with good things or humorous asides.

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ResilienceWanker · 14/12/2021 09:10

Oi. Senga is a nice lady, and I don't think she deserves bumping off!

On the unvaccinated, I'm actually surprised it's that few. I assume some will be die hard tin-hatters, but most will be people with medical issues where the vaccine is not safe, or severe needle-phobics (I didn't realise about 10% of the population have needlephobia which must be so difficult to overcome...) or have some other valid reason why they couldn't travel to the centre or have the jab. Or be under 18, where the jab was initially not recommended, and still marginally beneficial, so I can totally understand those children/ families not choosing to take it.

Also, as far as I know, there is (or at least, was) absolutely no way over 40s can choose which vaccine they are offered. So if they didn't want AZ for any reason, they couldn't choose not to have it... it was that or nothing. So some have chosen nothing. My neighbour, early 40s, had to lie and say she could be pregnant in order to get Pfizer, because there was no way she was taking AZ cos of the clot risk and that was the only thing the centre was offering her otherwise... it's only because she had a "helpful" nurse who suggested that they couldn't give AZ to anyone pregnant or possibly pregnant that she had the vaccine. (though it led to an awkward conversation at her second jag!) I can't imagine that's a huge number, and they may be more flexible now, but it really wasn't a great way of encouraging the slightly wary!

I think a nasal version of the vaccine could get a few more % done, but they've probably looked at that and thought it's not feasible, or too expensive or whatever.

Lockdownbear · 14/12/2021 09:28

Of that 8% eligible but not vaccinated

what % are people who have had bad reactions to vaccines before or have medical reasons why not?

What % are people who struggle to get to vaccine centre?

What % are people who just don't want it?

rookiemere · 14/12/2021 09:29

She only said she wouldn't close schools early. No promises for next term I don't think.

So upset about it already. Even if we do get together for Christmas it's now spoilt by the fear a neighbour will tell on us.

ssd · 14/12/2021 09:33

Seriously rookie???

Lockdownbear · 14/12/2021 09:33

I'm sure your neighbours are probably thinking the same thing. However I'm sure police have better things to do than police a few folk having turkey on Christmas Day.

mapleleavesreturn · 14/12/2021 09:37

It's the fear of a confrontation isn't it rookie rather than the real chance. Fingers crossed it's not as bad as we suspect.

rookiemere · 14/12/2021 09:38

You're likely right @Lockdownbear and I should wait and see what comes out today before catasrophising.

We do have one set of ardent SNP supporters beside us and whilst we're good friends with them we did have a stand up row Mid second lockdown because I expressed sadness that my teen DS was missing his friends and education- better than dying apparently.

I can see them reporting us if we slap the arse out of it - which we will as the 9 relatives bring 4 cars with them for nefarious reasons.

rookiemere · 14/12/2021 09:39

Yes @mapleleavesreturn also at heart I'm a law abiding respectable member of society, I don't like breaking rules even silly made up ones.

ResilienceWanker · 14/12/2021 09:40

Oh God, rookie. You're right. I hate having to parse everything a politician says to work out how they could actually mean the opposite of what you think they mean...

I'm crossing my fingers that they won't limit gatherings over Christmas, though. There's no way people will stick to them, and that'll just reduce compliance with other restrictions. And as lockdownbear says, who would be enforcing them?!

But anyway, my darkened airing cupboard is calling.

MLMshouldbeillegal · 14/12/2021 09:42

My mum and dad feel the same, @rookiemere. They live in a VERY small village - about 12 houses in total - and everyone knows everyone else. They would not let me visit in Jan/Feb last year as it would be all "Oooh Mrs MLM's daughter's car was outside the house, she's from that manky Glasgow". Even if they wouldn't go as far as reporting it, everyone would KNOW that I'd been there and that was enough to put her off, even though a visit was justified under support exclusions.

WouldBeGood · 14/12/2021 09:54

Not to worry @rookiemere, the police are all off self isolating!

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2022HereWeCome · 14/12/2021 10:38

I suspect schools will not reopen in january. I anticipate no face to face schooling until after Feb half-term. I am fed up - my DS class this year has been a nightmare - we are in a relatively naice area but there are behaviour issues in class, loads of kids behind where they should be, a huge percentage now needing extra support with literacy. And so much of this is an impact from previous school closures, families not being able to support home learning etc.

TeenTraumaTrials · 14/12/2021 10:44

@WouldBeGood

Not to worry *@rookiemere*, the police are all off self isolating!
That's so true. Highest absence rates on record right now. And the ones that are working have more important things to deal with than whether someone has one more person in their house than guidance says we should.
Lockdownbear · 14/12/2021 10:49

It wouldn't surprise me if they do the same as last year but to close schools they need to close hospitality and that needs furlough / business support.

I would protest if kids are stuck at home, parents stressed out, while the grandparents are in the pub.

Sad but true when I registered LO for school I was told you can defer if you want. I opted not to defer purely because I thought there was a better chance of schools staying open than their was of nurseries.

I can't be the only person who has made life choices based on the government's reaction to stuff.

WouldBeGood · 14/12/2021 10:52

Just saw Chris Musson reporting the effect of lockdown on primary school attainment in Scotland. He describes it as “grim reading”

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frasersmummy · 14/12/2021 10:57

right i'm now railing because basically school is shut. DS is s5 sitting highers and the teachers have just said we want to teach but the attendance is too poor

Apparently the school is dead.. I'm guessing the 10 day isolation means from today Christmas is in jeopardy so a lot of people keeping their kids home

Yeah well done Nicola .

2022HereWeCome · 14/12/2021 11:03

@frasersmummy
That's so shit. There really is going to be a lost generation of kids here. I suspect lots of parents are going to take their DC out of school from tomorrow (ie 10 days before christmas).

I do get cross that so many people who support lockdowns, school closures, more restrictions do not have children at school age so don't see the direct impacts

WouldBeGood · 14/12/2021 11:12

Oh @frasersmummy that’s shite

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ssd · 14/12/2021 11:21

So @frasersmummy, has the school closed?

frasersmummy · 14/12/2021 11:41

No the school is open and I suspect if I called them they would say the kids should be attending as normal

But there are like 4 kids in each class and the teachers are just saying its not worth doing anything so they can sit on their phone or just go home

I am hoping when the prelims are over tomorrow that things might improve but I suspect not

Lockdownbear · 14/12/2021 11:45

@WouldBeGood

Just saw Chris Musson reporting the effect of lockdown on primary school attainment in Scotland. He describes it as “grim reading”
That is so grim. Some of these kids will never make that up. Even the P1s are behind and they aren't going to get better while the nurseries are being instructed to spend as much time outdoors as possible.

Kids have effectively lost two terms of proper school. Some will have made it up. Some must be miles behind.

Scottishskifun · 14/12/2021 11:53

The effects on children is disgraceful and the assumption that the very young weren't going to be effected is a load of rubbish!

DS nursery has been brilliant they sing their alphabet whilst outside etc and the staff set up outdoor games which include numbers/letters etc I'm impressed at their creative ways but we can afford private nursery so many under 3s have lost social and development opportunities.

mapleleavesreturn · 14/12/2021 12:01

disadvantaged educationally and good luck trying to get mental health support for children, the situation is appalling.

ElephantOfRisk · 14/12/2021 12:02

Yes, it's such a surprise to see that that unqualified parents (some with multiple school age children) who might also be juggling home working, looking after infants and trying to teach and engage their children in learning didn't all do as good a job as a child attending school with a trained teacher for 6ish hours a day. Who'd ov thunk?

IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021 · 14/12/2021 12:29

Youngest DD sent home for a pcr mid exam. I can't actually take much fucking more of this. She doesn't have fucking covid.

So here I am trying to complete an exam with a toddler. Safe to say I will fail.

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