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Heading into winTier ..... the one we hoped it would be over before...

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dancemom · 04/11/2021 10:58

New thread Tierers ...

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BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 10/01/2022 14:28

Do we think this is the sustained peak of the wave then? Cases have been fairly flat for, what, ten days now?

Icannever · 10/01/2022 15:44

We seem to be in a downward trajectory. According to the travelling tabby website: “Today, 11,827 new cases were reported, which is an increase from yesterdays figure of 7,561. We are currently averaging 13,028 new cases per day, which is a decrease from this time last week, when we were averaging 15,056. “

BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 10/01/2022 15:51

Ok, that seems about right I guess. So another couple of weeks of increasing hospitalisations, then we'll be looking for things to improve?

Scottishskifun · 10/01/2022 16:10

@BlameItOnTheBlackStar

Ok, that seems about right I guess. So another couple of weeks of increasing hospitalisations, then we'll be looking for things to improve?
Doubt it more schools are going back this week!
BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 10/01/2022 17:07

Most went back last week and it hasn't worsened things so far though?

Drunkpanda · 10/01/2022 17:35

Two days only last week for my dc school! I'd give it a bit more time

Scottishskifun · 10/01/2022 17:40

@BlameItOnTheBlackStar

Most went back last week and it hasn't worsened things so far though?
I think it depends on the area. Whole council areas weren't back til today such as Angus and some only back in for 2 days.

It's way to early to see the effect of school return yet. Generally most people will start symptoms 3-5 days from exposure. Today's results were from Sunday tests which is still a bit early if exposed on a Friday for instance.

BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 10/01/2022 18:14

God was Angus really only today?! That seems crazy late.

Spose right enough it was only two days last week.

runningpink · 10/01/2022 20:19

Scottish Border schools only went back today as well

dancemom · 11/01/2022 14:14

Scottish numbers: 11 January 2022
Summary
• 10,392 new cases of COVID-19 reported*
• 43,739 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results*
â—¦ 27.7% of these were positive
• 16 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 54 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 1,479 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 4,393,689 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination, 4,051,635 have received their second dose, and 3,130,502 have received a third dose or booster

  • There continues to be large volumes of tests being processed by labs; this has impacted turnaround times resulting in delays between specimen’s beings taken and results being received and reported. PHS are continuing to monitor the situation. On 5 January 2022, the Scottish Government announced that people who do not have symptoms will no longer be asked to take a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test to confirm a positive Lateral Flow Device (LFD) result. Instead, anyone with a positive LFD, who does not have symptoms, should report the result online as soon as the test is done. In order to ensure that we continue to provide the most accurate information, changes have been made to the national COVID-19 case definition to reflect this revised testing strategy. At present, we report on PCR tests only. From Thursday 13 January, we will begin reporting on the number of people with a COVID-19 infection confirmed by either a first LFD or PCR positive test.
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mibbelucieachwell · 11/01/2022 15:17

Oooft. So positive LFs not confirmed by PCRs aren't included in the stats? But will be from Thursday. So the current figures are likely to be undercounts?

Ecthelion · 11/01/2022 17:00

I'm a bit confused about the rules for kid's birthday parties at the moment. DD6 has a soft play party at the weekend, presumably with food/etc after, and noone's been in touch to say it's cancelled but I didn't think that parties with more than 3 households were allowed yet?

ecceromani · 11/01/2022 17:21

The 3 households is only advice, not actually a rule.

ResilienceWanker · 11/01/2022 17:48

@mibbelucieachwell

Oooft. So positive LFs not confirmed by PCRs aren't included in the stats? But will be from Thursday. So the current figures are likely to be undercounts?
Yes - I was just discussing this with DH. He thinks the numbers will jump up but I'm not convinced it will make that much difference. It relies on people reporting positive LFTs and I don't think loads of people will. Anyone claiming the isolation grant needs a follow up PCR anyway, as does anyone with symptoms, and unless you need the formal email or something for your work, why would you poke the bear of Test and Protect and dob in your close contacts and so on? I think people will just isolate if that and be done with it.

England's numbers already include LFTs, so not reporting LFTs will also depress the numbers proportionally compared to England, which is bound to play well with SG Grin

ecthelion - we went to a party at the weekend with a dozen or so (highly overexcited) 10 year olds in an indoor venue with food and stuff. I was 90% convinced it would be cancelled the week before, but it went ahead and was great fun - and as far as I'm aware, no-one has been struck down! So nice for them to run around and let off steam and consume far too many carbs and sweets..almost like normal. The venue was being pretty careful to be fair, and over 12s were generally wearing masks apart from when actually doing the activity (social distancing wasn't really possible, but that was our decision not to enforce it), so it seems they are exempt from anything legal prohibiting mixing, and there probably were fewer than 200 people indoors overall. And, yes, it's only guidance anyway.

BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 11/01/2022 18:53

@Ecthelion my son has just had his friend's party cancelled, apparently due to Covid restrictions, but he also has a party at a big trampoline venue next weekend. It feels like each venue has its own interpretation of the rules, and whether they apply anything extra on top.

mibbelucieachwell · 12/01/2022 14:22

Sorry to hear about cancelled parties.

One of my wee pupils was telling me matter of factly about how he had missed a school event because he had covid and I remembered his parent commenting on how he had been completely asymptomatic. It's just computer says No isn't it? He didn't miss the event because he was ill.

Absolutely @ResilienceWanker. I'll be interested to see if the Scottish numbers on Thursday when positive LFs will be included is backdated to Monday and what that effect will have. Surely they will be.

dancemom · 12/01/2022 16:55

• 7,606 new cases of COVID-19 reported*
• 46,737 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results*
â—¦ 19.1% of these were positive
• 21 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 59 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 1,537 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 4,394,756 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination, 4,054,752 have received their second dose, and 3,145,537 have received a third dose or booster

  • Whilst improving, there continues to be large volumes of tests being processed by labs; this has impacted turnaround times resulting in delays between specimen’s beings taken and results being received and reported. PHS are continuing to monitor the situation. On 5 January 2022, the Scottish Government announced that people who do not have symptoms will no longer be asked to take a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test to confirm a positive Lateral Flow Device (LFD) result. Instead, anyone with a positive LFD, who does not have symptoms, should report the result online as soon as the test is done. In order to ensure that we continue to provide the most accurate information, changes have been made to the national COVID-19 case definition to reflect this revised testing strategy. At present, we report on PCR tests only. From Thursday 13 January, we will begin reporting on the number of people with a COVID-19 infection confirmed by either a first LFD or PCR positive test.
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Scottishskifun · 12/01/2022 19:51

Thanks going to be interesting tomorrow once LFT get included!

Then I can see us shooting us the rankings!

WouldBeGood · 12/01/2022 19:52

So, it will be reliant on self reporting of LFT results?

Doesn’t seem very reliable to me

Scottishskifun · 12/01/2022 21:33

@WouldBeGood

So, it will be reliant on self reporting of LFT results?

Doesn’t seem very reliable to me

Yep! If you have symptoms then your supposed to get a PCR still but if it's just a positive lft it doesn't need confirming. It's completely unreliable but then there was nothing before it tomake people get a PCR of they had a positive lft so probably no change in numbers on that regard
WouldBeGood · 12/01/2022 21:57

It’s a really odd way to record public health statistics and I hope they don’t base policy on it.

Scottishskifun · 12/01/2022 22:02

Ah you have to scan the QR code on the test on upload so it wouldn't go massively high more likely ro be under reporting then over

WouldBeGood · 12/01/2022 22:14

Yes, but that doesn’t show the result? Either way.

mibbelucieachwell · 13/01/2022 10:27

I'm fairly sure they still want you to get a confirmatory PCR for positive LFs if you're symptomatic. I think the removal of the PCR 'requirement' is only for asymptomatic positives.

I've never understood why they advised double testing anyway. What a waste of resources.

mibbelucieachwell · 13/01/2022 10:28

The SG quotes ONS statistics sometimes so they must be using them in their decision making too.

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