Guilt Free Railing 13

[WouldBeGood]

Unlucky for some.. maybe lucky for us?

Checking in to rail about the removal of covid restrictions. Never bloody happy, me. They've taken away allocated changing cubicles at swimming and increased capacity so it was rammed and there was no family changing. Seemed far more civilised before.

How is your DS @WouldBeGood?

Sorry about your DD @Iwantthesummersun

It always seems to be the worst time possible @Iwantthesummersun

What a surprise at JL warning they probably won't change the PCR day 2 testing requirements for Scotland at end of October. Giving several excuses one of which being genome sequencing......except the latest figures showed less then 5% were sent for this! If lateral flow tests are sufficient enough for NHS, care workers, teachers then why are they not sufficient for return travel?!

Just another nail in the coffin and potential job losses in Scotland as people will probably book through England when it saves over £100 per person in test costs!

At their age 19 months is a lifetime. So much waiting to have it slip through her fingers again. Can’t see how DH and I won’t also get it now. We are double jabbed but it seems inevitable.

Thanks @runningpink hex ok, another negative LFT and all his pals apparently the sane: grotty but no Covid. So I’m away carousing!

@Iwantthesummersun

At their age 19 months is a lifetime. So much waiting to have it slip through her fingers again. Can’t see how DH and I won’t also get it now. We are double jabbed but it seems inevitable.

Thats so shit, I'm sorry. Is it worth her doing another one. Apparently they show positive if you do it after drinking juice or eating. Worth a try anyway. Its sickening this is happening to youngsters when there will be thousands marching through Glasgow tomorrow and watching at the side as umpteen orange walks go ahead. I'd actually let her compete and do the lft for her myself. You have to make your own rules up now and mental health needs to come first.

You never know @Iwantthesummersun DD had it a few weeks ago but none of the rest of us got it 🤷🏻‍♀️

But shes only done an lft, not a pcr, the lft isnt often right, her pcr maybe negative. Lfts are shit really.

Positive Oct through this morning for DD. Hubby and I both negative. She’s now pretty down as the reality of what she is missing has hit home. Reading the email, I would say she definitely had symptoms on Thursday night (stupidly didn’t pick up on it) so her release day will be a week on Sunday. It said symptom day plus 9 whole days after. She’s had a cold on and off for three weeks now. I can’t say it didn’t cross my mind for a second to pretend it hadn’t happened but she’s as honest as the day is long so couldn’t have lied. More importantly though, I’m a teacher and would be absolutely furious if a parent in my class covered up a positive. I have to hold myself to the same standards.

Oh no summersun. I'm so sorry - and esp for your DD. What a bummer I know it won't make up for what she's missing, but can you arrange a treat for her for when she's out of quarantine? Meal out or day trip with a mate or something? Just to give her something specific to look forward to. Hope she, (and the rest of the house of course) stays well - or at least on the mild side of things.

@Scottishskifun

What a surprise at JL warning they probably won't change the PCR day 2 testing requirements for Scotland at end of October. Giving several excuses one of which being genome sequencing......except the latest figures showed less then 5% were sent for this! If lateral flow tests are sufficient enough for NHS, care workers, teachers then why are they not sufficient for return travel?!

Just another nail in the coffin and potential job losses in Scotland as people will probably book through England when it saves over £100 per person in test costs!

Yes. DH was railing about this last night. He's going to Germany for work at the end of October, and was unreasonably excited about it. And is now pissed off that he's going to have different rules to his colleagues from Bristol also going... I suggested he flew via Newcastle or something but he thinks that's "cheating" . And to be fair, also a bit of a faff that would probably cost more than £100 in extra travel/ accom costs. But the principle is annoying!

Has anyone experienced having to show a negative lft in the 90 days after a positive pcr test and how did you get around it? The advice is not to test again but what happens if you need proof?

@Iwantthesummersun

Has anyone experienced having to show a negative lft in the 90 days after a positive pcr test and how did you get around it? The advice is not to test again but what happens if you need proof?

Lateral flow tests generally are less sensitive to low levels of residual non infectious virus than PCRs. Many on the travel forum who were positive before holidays found they were negative on lateral flows after about a week or so and just monitored the reducing lines. Some have also found that it's dependent on the time of day they take the lateral flow.

I suppose it depends what it's actually required for, many places accept that it's not possible and instead accept proof of infection and recovery dates (the end date on the isolation certificate that you can access online).

I had positive lft for quite a long time but I also have long covid and from what I've read long covid sufferers can test positive for many many months

@ResilienceWanker your right it's the principle of it! It wouldn't make a difference for a lone traveller but a family of 4 with over 12s it's minimum £400 extra compared to less than £70 potentially (once lft on arrival/day 2 given some airports have dropped the price to £33 for 2 tests and under 18s counting the same as fully vaccinated).
For so many that price difference is between having a holiday and not and in those circumstances I wouldn't blame anyone doing it and finding a friend in England to stay with for a day or two after arrival!

They will probably try to block the loophole but that failed miserably when they tried it with quarantine hotels for all international flights. Its going to be a shambles which no doubt in 4-6 months time when it's not working as people fly through England and Scottish airports suffer they will end up changing it exactly as they did for quarantine hotels for all international arrivals!

I had an email yesterday for European culture and language day next Friday at the dcs' school - guess how they're celebrating?

A) Are they picking cultural icons to discuss B) favourite landmarks,l
C) key musical pieces
D) poetry, writers
E) anything else that constitutes language and culture?

No that's right it's flags and crafting flags. Dress in the colours of 'your' national flag for a nice photo op.

So lazy and divisive. And this is about the 5th time we've had flag crafts at primary as 'culture'.

@mapleleavesreturn

I had an email yesterday for European culture and language day next Friday at the dcs' school - guess how they're celebrating?

A) Are they picking cultural icons to discuss B) favourite landmarks,l
C) key musical pieces
D) poetry, writers
E) anything else that constitutes language and culture?

No that's right it's flags and crafting flags. Dress in the colours of 'your' national flag for a nice photo op.

So lazy and divisive. And this is about the 5th time we've had flag crafts at primary as 'culture'.

Do you feel a Union Jack coming on @mapleleavesreturn?

Bloody hate flag waving nationalism and the appropriation of the saltire by the SNP.

Or pick a flag that you like the look of and your DC could self identify as that nationality.

Havering over the red white and blue as we do have the items or letting her go in a party dress and ignoring the whole nonsense.

Surely kids, even primary age, can understand more about culture than flags...

elephant I asked my dd if she was Scottish, English or British and she answered British, something good came out of flag culture day anyway!

I'm railing at my click and collect shopping today. Decided on roast lamb for tomorrow, ordered a lamb leg and bits and bobs, including lamb stock cubes. They didn't have those so substituted lamb stock pots - all good - then i scroll further and see they haven't supplied any lamb as apparently there was no suitable substitution...

What did they think I wanted the stock cubes for?

You've got to love that - no human checked that over! That's a right pain as popping out at the last minute to find lamb on a Saturday afternoon defeats the object of click and collect!

Iwantthesummersun. Absolutely rotten luck.

mapleleaves. EU Flag?

elephant How inducing!

The numbers are higher today. But more than 70,000 tests as a result of the backlog. Positivity rate is creeping down.

@mapleleavesreturn pretty ridiculous for it all to be flag based! Can you stick a ham and cheese crossaint in her bag as a snack under the pretence as well?

I'm sure loads of parents will probably just stick them in a Scotland football top that they bought in the summer just to get some extra wear out of it!

Send her in her party dress with a note saying that you find flags divisive.

I contemplated Olympic circles, EU flag, and in the end I'd have to buy something for something I don't believe in so she can just wear whatever.

Surely flags are a political rather than a cultural statement?

I won't bother the teachers though, not worth it, it's ideal for a rail on the railing thread!

They could have done all sorts of stuff that DC would have found interesting such as school lunches all round the world, what kids wear to school in other countries, playground games in other countries - and do things world wide rather than just europe. But yes, let's do flags....

We have the internet now so it's easy to get suitable resources and information that would have been lacking back in my school days, and even then we did projects on european countries in small groups - My group had Holland/Netherlands and we still found out enough information to fill out a project book and make a huge poster back in the mid 70s.