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Dancing with tiers in my eyes, Weeping for the memory of a life gone by

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dancemom · 01/09/2021 20:27

New thread, a very appropriate title I feel ...

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WouldBeGood · 24/10/2021 20:47

It’s really going to be a nightmare. I’ve been working in Glasgow recently and have no idea how long it will take me if I have to go when this shambles is on

mibbelucieachwell · 24/10/2021 22:17

I live in East Dunbartonshire about 9 miles from the city centre. Home to city centre by car is usually about 20 mins. I'm travelling down south from central station during COP26 departing 3.40pm and booked a taxi from here in case the Scot rail dispute hasn't been resolved. The taxi company is worried about the traffic situation and wouldn't accept a run into Glasgow after 1pm in case they aren't back in East Dunbartonshire in time for the school runs at 3. Walking definitely not an option.

titsintiers · 24/10/2021 22:47

I'm fairly sure I saw an ad saying no trains anywhere in Scotland until after COP26

Scottishskifun · 24/10/2021 23:11

@titsintiers

I'm fairly sure I saw an ad saying no trains anywhere in Scotland until after COP26
It's Scotrail and the sleeper train. Think LNER trains are still running to England but obviously there are less services and will be packed.
WouldBeGood · 24/10/2021 23:16

Surely ScotRail trains are still running?!

KingsleyShacklebolt · 24/10/2021 23:17

Nope. Skeleton service operated by management. No trains anywhere.

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2021 23:28

I need to go from East Kilbride to Glasgow on Friday!

Scottishskifun · 24/10/2021 23:42

@WouldBeGood

I need to go from East Kilbride to Glasgow on Friday!
If its this Friday then you should be OK as its 1-12th of November I think. Scotrail has updates on its website.
WouldBeGood · 24/10/2021 23:49

Phew!

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2021 23:50

Great climate change message when they stop public transport 🤷🏻‍♀️

Scottishskifun · 24/10/2021 23:54

@WouldBeGood

Great climate change message when they stop public transport 🤷🏻‍♀️
Yep! It's done for maximum effect.... I think it's just RMT Union left in the battle the others have accepted it but unfortunately they make up most of the drivers!

Its hard to know what's being done to stop it as union negotiations are always behind closed doors!

Haudyourwheesht · 25/10/2021 07:16

@WouldBeGood East Kilbride is the opposite end of Glasgow from the SECC so that should be (relatively) doable, I'd have thought. They're going to be working pretty hard to keep people moving I'd have thought, although the train strike is not going to help.

forfucksakenett · 25/10/2021 08:26

Restrictions started from the 23rd.

WouldBeGood · 25/10/2021 10:02

I see there are now restrictions on pedestrians and cyclists now too. Kelvin way closed over the weekends

ResilienceWanker · 25/10/2021 10:05

The whole COP/ trains thing is very frustrating. I'm not in Glasgow and have no need to travel there, luckily, but it does sound awful for those that do. And it's such a shame, as it should be a big, flagship event to showcase Glasgow, and of course is an honour for the UK to be hosting. But rather than local or local-ish people getting on board, going to see what's going on, join in any processions/ demonstrations/ public engagement stuff and so on, it's probably going to piss people off and discourage them from going to the centre and using local companies/shops/restaurants. It's a shame, as this COP is supposed to be involving so many more people than previously (including communities likely to be affected by climate change and adaptation measures... which of course includes us plebs). But it's sounding like lots of people are being discouraged from joining in, and only the diehard Extinction Rebellion types etc will brave the disruption and likely cause more of it which is hardly a positive or collaborative environment to create.

Interesting though, that it's being held in person, even though the delegates recognise that unnecessary travel isn't really sustainable or desirable at any time, let alone with covid. It may or may not cause a local covid spike - though given everyone meeting inside needs to be tested daily, and masks will be required at all times inside (which is obviously such a panacea) I'm not sure the "formal" parts of the conference are such a risk. Maybe being stuck on a packed bus going nowhere for 3 hours could be more risky, but that won't be anything to do with the conference?!. But because of the importance of the conference, they have to travel, because its universally recognised that online conferences/ meetings aren't nearly so effective. And discriminate against those without good Internet access, of even those with decent access are at the mercy of their connections holding up. Yet we've had 20 months of obligatory zoom/teams meetings as "a small price to pay". I mean, of course our meetings generally aren't as important or large as this one, and overall it may be preferable that we stick with the slightly shit option for personal or environmental reasons. But it's interesting that it's at least recognised now that online IS second best...

ResilienceWanker · 25/10/2021 10:10

And on a different matter, turns out the vaccine passports have been a disaster. I mean, who'd have predicted that punters turned away for not having the right documents would get pissed off and abuse the venue staff. Or that venues would end up having to close early and lose income because of it... It being designed to prevent those venues from "having to close". Oh yes, basically everyone. But, hey, it's still a proportionate means of preventing spread, apparently...

WouldBeGood · 25/10/2021 10:50

@ResilienceWanker Enid have thought it..?🤔

WouldBeGood · 25/10/2021 10:50

Who’d!! Not Enid 🤣

mibbelucieachwell · 25/10/2021 11:00

Who'd have thought indeed Resilience.

Re COP I agree it's a mixed bag. The official advice is to avoid going into Glasgow if you don't have to during the busiest periods of the conference and times of demos. This is why I wonder about the economic effect on Glasgow. But somewhere has to host it. I assume it's the biggest event from a security POV anywhere in the world ever. I wonder whether security advice is provided by the UK security team, in conjunction with local knowledge?

Did Glasgow 'bid' to host it? I can't remember not menopausal at all.

Whatever it's effects on covid rates JL (who's been very quiet recently) and NS would never, as you say, admit it.

I find JL and Jacob Rees Mogg two of the most patronising people I've ever know of. Just saying.

WouldBeGood · 25/10/2021 11:03

I think Glasgow is particularly ill suited to hosting it as the main arterial routes go right through the city centre.

ResilienceWanker · 25/10/2021 11:10

[quote WouldBeGood]@ResilienceWanker Enid have thought it..?🤔[/quote]
Grin Well, Enid was very clever, then. More so than the SG at least...

ResilienceWanker · 25/10/2021 11:35

@mibbelucieachwell

Who'd have thought indeed Resilience.

Re COP I agree it's a mixed bag. The official advice is to avoid going into Glasgow if you don't have to during the busiest periods of the conference and times of demos. This is why I wonder about the economic effect on Glasgow. But somewhere has to host it. I assume it's the biggest event from a security POV anywhere in the world ever. I wonder whether security advice is provided by the UK security team, in conjunction with local knowledge?

Did Glasgow 'bid' to host it? I can't remember not menopausal at all.

Whatever it's effects on covid rates JL (who's been very quiet recently) and NS would never, as you say, admit it.

I find JL and Jacob Rees Mogg two of the most patronising people I've ever know of. Just saying.

Yes, I'm not sure why it is in Glasgow. The official line is that it has the experience of big things, and does actually have a fair amount of sustainability credentials. But I agree that the SEC, while being big, isn't necessarily the best choice for minimising impact on the rest of the city. It's centralish, but not totally central in terms of public transport (Central/ Queen St/ Buchanan St etc) , so I'm not sure why they didn't go for Glasgow Green or similar, which is also a bit of a way away from the centre but could have been less disruptive to the rest of the city. I don't remember the commonwealth games being so difficult (though I may be wrong) and that would have had more people attending, albeit fewer security risk kind of people. Maybe SEC is just better from a security point of view. I don't know as I don't understand these kind of things. I'd have thought there could be less disruptive places in Glasgow though, let alone Scotland or the rest of the UK. I think it is a UK event, so security will have been organised by the UK folks, but they would have been mad not to liaise with Police Scotland/ Glasgow council/ the people who organised the commonwealth games etc so I'm sure they have chosen the most appropriate restrictions and so on. But it seems short sighted to me tbh...

And yy to JRM and JL... Someone on another thread was talking about JL having cropped up on some UK-wide media thing and she thought he sounded very sensible ConfusedShock So maybe he's branching out. And has had a personality transplant...

dancemom · 25/10/2021 17:02

• 2,240 new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 23,055 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
◦ 10.3% of these were positive
• 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are generally closed at the weekend)
• 57 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 902 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 4,308,371 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,895,239 have received their second dose

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dancemom · 26/10/2021 14:12

• 2,262 new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 20,897 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
◦ 11.5% of these were positive
• 20 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 59 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 917 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 4,309,932 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and

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BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 26/10/2021 14:28

Such a shame to see numbers ticking up again. I was dead hopeful that we were at the beginning of improvement, but in reality I think it's more flat.

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