Guilt Free Railing 11

[WouldBeGood]

The end was not nigh,and still looking far far away, so here’s the latest thread.

Usual railing rules apply: all rails or good news welcome, no nauseating positivity or resilience wankery. 😃

@ResilienceWanker I think I work at the same RG university. I have a hearing impairment and being told we can take our mask off when seated to help you lip read gives me the rage! What about the rest of the time??

Fortunately I have a new WFH permanent job to start soon. No more covid madness.

I see English hospitals are getting ready to jag kids so that's a positive IMO

Jagging kids is just not right just now.

And it won’t change anything, there will just be new things that must be done, and THEN we’ll be free, honest guv!

@ADreadedSunnyDay

Meanwhile in my world an awful lot of parents continue to do daily lateral flow tests on their primary and nursery aged children - at some point they will get lucky and get a positive. I really struggle with the mindset and ethics here (unless extreme extenuating circumstances). When did this become ethical?

Christ alive! DS has had a few tests when we were close contact but since he's had covid I refuse as its so traumatic for him!

He currently has a chesty cough but only at night and I refuse to test him as he is still in high antibody phase and his nursery has had colds going around.
Ironically I know it's not covid as when he had covid he had no symptoms!

@ADreadedSunnyDay

Meanwhile in my world an awful lot of parents continue to do daily lateral flow tests on their primary and nursery aged children - at some point they will get lucky and get a positive. I really struggle with the mindset and ethics here (unless extreme extenuating circumstances). When did this become ethical?

Yes. We've got this at the moment. 2 more cases in our class this morning, on top of the 4 already. One parent has been giving LF and PCR tests daily since the weekend (no symptoms), and has finally got the desired positive on LF. The other had a pos LF on Monday and two negative PCRs since, until today when it was positive (slight stuffy head). I'm not doubting that there is virus floating around but I'm thinking there may be something going on with false positives just because of the frequency of testing. Also, I'm really worried that so many "cases" will result in the class being shut down... Bah...

[quote listentomydeclaration]@ResilienceWanker I think I work at the same RG university. I have a hearing impairment and being told we can take our mask off when seated to help you lip read gives me the rage! What about the rest of the time??

Fortunately I have a new WFH permanent job to start soon. No more covid madness.

I see English hospitals are getting ready to jag kids so that's a positive IMO [/quote]
Oh, well done on your new job!! But surely, it should be obvious that you are only allowed conversations while both parties are sitting down, and you're only allowed to speak to fellow employees, snd not anyone else . Now we're living in normality beyond tiers, of course.

listentomydeclaration

@ResilienceWankerI think I work at the same RG university. I have a hearing impairment and being told we can take our mask off when seated to help you lip read gives me the rage! What about the rest of the time??

I'm I miss reading that, surely it's the other person you need to remove their mask?

Here's another rant, people in offices and other places can unmask when at their desk - why aren't kids allowed too?

Is the correct English, demask or unmask or is neither of them a word???

[quote Lockdownbear]@randomsabreuse the sports have been allowed to operate indoors but guides and scouts etc haven't.
So the more general youth organisations if they had outdoor space with access to toilets they could operate. Needing toilets ruled out many parks and places esp in the evenings.

And because they haven't been running many kids have been joined sports which are running.[/quote]
To be fair I started tennis with my older one last November because it was on and allowed throughout the winter lockdown. I did Brownies and Guides growing up - and quite enjoyed it - but for some reason it's not a big priority as a parent. Possibly because I'd have liked the chance to try non-school sports and music that bit younger rather than do a more general group!

My (indoor, technically contact) sport is being very cautious - all over 11s required to do 2 lfts in the week before a competition this weekend and all officials, participants and coaches have to do lfts before national circuit events, including in England.

I do think the mask to move around cafe/restaurant but not at table thing is ridiculous - totally pointless!

I've missed a lot of the thread I think, been busy with homework and some toddler groups have re-opened and our local library!
I won't comply with another lock down, i know if places are shut I don't have much choice but never again will my children be kept from their family and friends.

Another lockdown? Off you fuck Nicola.

I've only had one jag because it messed with my period so much I have been in such a bad way for a few months with it now. So glad I didn't bother with the second seen as it doesn't seem to matter one jot if you are double vaccinated or not.

This sounds random but been watching a series on sky catch up and the adverts are England based. It's all parties, travel coming together etc. Switch to stv and you have Jason bumping his gums and the Nandos alert with teenagers playing football.

I am fucking sick of this shit

DS also reports that they have to keep water bottles in their bags at school and ask the teacher if they may have a drink. He’s s2. It’s absolutely roasting. I suspect it’s to avoid “drinking” so can remove mask…

@ResilienceWanker
That's my worry too. Trouble is the more it all becomes 'normalised' the harder it is to take a rational stance. Somebody must be raking it in with the amount of lateral flow tests being distributed.

@WouldBeGood
So how many times are lessons being interrupted by pupils asking if they can have a drink? Utter utter madness.

The teachers at ds school greet the children in the playground wearing masks.
He told me the classroom assistant wears a lanyard (thing you and daddy wear round your neck for work) that tells you not to touch her.

@WouldBeGood

DS also reports that they have to keep water bottles in their bags at school and ask the teacher if they may have a drink. He’s s2. It’s absolutely roasting. I suspect it’s to avoid “drinking” so can remove mask…

Shame on the schools for complying with this kind of ‘advice’. I’m not blaming individual teachers, but I guess the school management mindset is to comply to stay open? I wish there was some ballsy HT who would stand up to some of this nonsense.

[quote listentomydeclaration]@ResilienceWanker I think I work at the same RG university. I have a hearing impairment and being told we can take our mask off when seated to help you lip read gives me the rage! What about the rest of the time??

Fortunately I have a new WFH permanent job to start soon. No more covid madness.

I see English hospitals are getting ready to jag kids so that's a positive IMO [/quote]
Congratulations on the new job x

Excuse me regulars, I'm butting in to have a rail about schools / SG.
Namechanged in frustration.

Extra curricular stuff already cancelled by school for this term.
Probably being unreasonable but I just want my kid to catch it now and not in 6 months when immunity is low and our adult jabs will have further worn off. 🤷
And then there's all the other usual viruses we haven't been exposed to.

I know what you mean @HostageToNationalism. As counterintuitive as it sounds to want to catch COVID I’d rather get it now while my vaccine immunity is stronger than after another 6 months of being ‘kept safe’ when it will likely hit me harder. If, as seems likely, I’m going to get it anyway, better now than later.

It's not daft I've definitely relaxed a lot more since DS has had covid!

It would certainly have made more sense to open up let covid spread while many people had a higher level of immunity.

Covid is here to stay, we are all going to get it sooner or later. It's not like measles immunisation isn't going to be a one hit wonder. It's like flu, will vary every year.

I'm sure I heard a scientist say months ago there were 16,000 strains of covid. But we only talk about a handful of them because they are the ones that cause extra concern.

Same! Mainly because we don't have to join in the testing/isolating game, but also I do feel a certain degree of relief that it's much less likely DS or I can come down with it again, at least for the next few months.

Pretty shit that extracurricular stuff is still cancelled though. Theoretically our things are all back on again (albeit still with restrictions) but I have to say I have no confidence they will stay open. DS has music lessons through the school. We're told not to have private lessons as well - though they were understanding last year, as school lessons were cancelled with nothing provided until about February, and then zoom or in person lessons once a fortnight. This year, they should be back to weekly lessons in school, but I've also arranged a term of private lessons (in the guise of working towards a Christmas concert, which I KNOW the school won't be doing)... Mainly because I really doubt we'll get an uninterrupted term. I feel bad, and could have done without the expense tbh, but I just feel I'm having to plan for the worst because if I don't we'll be back to nothing being available again!

(sorry, meant to quote hostage there!)

I stepped back from running brownies and I'm glad I did. I wouldn't have been able to give it my all. The brownies need people who want to be there and for 9 years they had a great me.

Not heard of extra curricular stuff being cancelled at ours.

Extra curricular stuff never reopened at DS primary school and is unlikely to do so now ... some community stuff reopened, but limited and huge waiting lists for things that were actually on (rather than via Zoom)

England is now considering vaccine for 12-16 year olds.

Up until to day I'd have said thank goodness for that. Now I'm questioning will it actually make any difference?

That's my question - if we're asking children to take a vaccine when uptake amongst young adults isn't 100 percent , we need to be clear about the returns for them - is there a commitment that if x percentage of ages 12 + are vaccinated schools will stay open unless hospitals are overrun?

I don't suppose we'll get any such plan though.