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Tieribly angry wee fannies fannying about with the tiers

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dancemom · 29/07/2021 20:31

Things moved quickly so I just started a new one ...

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ElephantOfRisk · 04/08/2021 12:00

@titsintiers

What is vertical drinking? Don't we do that anyway?
Standing at the bar etc.
WouldBeGood · 04/08/2021 12:05

They really have exposed themselves as clowns to the world now

hilbil21 · 04/08/2021 12:20

I don't care about nightclubs I just really want a day out with friends where it doesn't matter if every table is taken in a pub because you are allowed to stand up! We had planned to go from Helensburgh to Edinburgh beginning of September for a friends birthday and do as many bars on Rose Street as we could but if we aren't allowed to stand up it's pointless going through there on a Saturday where everywhere will be mobbed. I'm absolutely fed up with this. I've had a long summer holiday with my autistic 6 year old (his Dad works offshore) and I just want something a bit different to look forward to, rant over lol.

ElephantOfRisk · 04/08/2021 12:26

Yeah, i'm not likely to step in another night club in my life but I still think the proposals are ridiculous and yes, i just want to go out for a walk and maybe pop in for a drink or an ice-cream or whatever and not have to worry if I've remembered to have a mask with me.

Not have to think if the thing i want to go buy is more important than feeling shit about wearing a mask to go buy it.

WouldBeGood · 04/08/2021 12:29

I’ve just cancelled all my outstanding concert tickets as no fear of being able to go, certainly in any form of normality. I’m feeling really down today after my fury of yesterday.

TheGenealogist · 04/08/2021 12:34

DD had tickets to see Harry Styles at the Hydro in April 2020. Cancelled. Re-scheduled for March 2021. Cancelled. No news about when it can go ahead, and she's likely to have a LONG wait as the concert is all about teenage girls screaming.

TheGenealogist · 04/08/2021 12:43

Trnsmt going ahead in Glasgow in September. 30,000 people. No masks. No social distancing.

Very clear where Sturgeon's priorities are.

hilbil21 · 04/08/2021 14:04

He really is a muppet Shock

Tieribly angry wee fannies fannying about with the tiers
dancemom · 04/08/2021 14:09

• 1,271 new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 29,257 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
◦ 4.7% of these were positive
• 13 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 58 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 383 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 4,016,326 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,249,622 have received their second dose

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WouldBeGood · 04/08/2021 14:22

And every bit of that muppetry cause people serious anxiety about their businesses, finances and lives.

ResilienceWanker · 04/08/2021 14:27

The nightclub thing is ridiculous. Are they really trying to introduce new rules, just to stop people having fun there?! And forbidding "vertical drinking" Hmm there, means it'd have to be forbidden in pubs too. But I thought the point of removing SD, capacity limits and stuff meant that people would be allowed to order from the bar and drink there if they want, where that is normal for the venue (council licensing may impose restrictions too, I suppose). If there are still limits based on the number of tables a venue can fit in, and people still need to be at a table to eat/drink that's not "removing restrictions" is it?! It's keeping existing restrictions, just without the requirement to be 1m apart. It can't be to do with masks, because eating/drinking is a valid reason to remove a mask, whether or not you're sat down.

Also, without a full revamp of the regulations I'm not sure how any "guidance" (no vertical drinking etc) can be imposed anyway. I thought the only laws that were going to be kept was the masks, keeping customer details in hospitality, and the whole testing/ isolating with symptoms thing. As the requirement for businesses to "have regard to SG guidance", allow for SD, and so on is tied in with the various tiers it won't apply from Monday, as we won't be in tiers from then. So unless it is changed wholesale before then I can't see how anything can be enforced. I'd assumed they would just revoke sections of the existing regs - but I don't think that will work.

It's all very underhand and secretive anyway, and I'm not sure that's the best way to make laws!

Scottishskifun · 04/08/2021 14:27

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us twitter saves the day!
It's hidden in a paragraph in the sub group document!
Confirmation no isolation and no PCR test for under 5s.
Why they didn't include that in the bloody statement!

Scottishskifun · 04/08/2021 14:28

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ResilienceWanker · 04/08/2021 14:32

Ah, they seem to have realised the whole vertical drinking thing doesn't make sense too! Well, that's something. What is the point of John Swinney again? He always gets wheeled out on the telly, says something wrong, and then the government has to clarify that he was wrong. He's hardly a safe pair of hands, is he!

Haudyourwheesht · 04/08/2021 14:51

@TheGenealogist

Trnsmt going ahead in Glasgow in September. 30,000 people. No masks. No social distancing.

Very clear where Sturgeon's priorities are.

You can't honestly still believe that she's favouring Glasgow??!

Glasgow was under restrictions for longer than ANYWHERE ELSE in the UK. We weren't allowed into anyone else's house for 8 MONTHS. Every authority in the country, including one with higher case rates was moved to level 2 in May and Glasgow alone stayed at 3. How can that possibly suggest that she is treating Glasgow better than anyone else?

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 04/08/2021 14:59

That's a relief @Scottishskifun, it would be absolute chaos! As you say, you can't do any meaningful work from home with a toddler to look after under foot.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 04/08/2021 15:07

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58078053

Even the SNP-sympathising BBC are running a piece on the confusion caused by keeping token measures (that are impractical, unnecessary and most likely don't help anyway) in place to appear 'cautious'. And still, there will be loads of people screaming 'but BORIS' and claiming that Sturgeon is handling the pandemic well. God help us.

WouldBeGood · 04/08/2021 15:20

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us I’ve not seen much defence of this latest shitshow.

WouldBeGood · 04/08/2021 15:42

It would be difficult right enough, with cases still falling in England. Looks like, as with the vaccines, Boris and co have called it right 🤷🏻‍♀️

WouldBeGood · 04/08/2021 15:42

Incredible as that is

Pootle40 · 04/08/2021 15:51

@WouldBeGood

I’ve just cancelled all my outstanding concert tickets as no fear of being able to go, certainly in any form of normality. I’m feeling really down today after my fury of yesterday.
That's a shame. I am still holding out a (false) hope we get to see HAIM at the Hydro in September. I don't think they would be using the full venue so I remain ever hopeful.

The August 9th feels like nothing is actually changing.

ElephantOfRisk · 04/08/2021 15:53

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/11-places-face-masks-must-24683878

Yep, it's freedom day right enough...Hmm

GoldenOmber · 04/08/2021 16:24

The nightclubs thing is just ridiculous whichever way it goes.

Either nightclubs can open, but only with masks because they are indoor settings. So people will have to wear a mask while dancing, wear a mask while moving around, and wear a mask while drinking unless they’re seated. Which is unworkable.

Or nightclubs can function with no masks for dancing and no masks for drinking but compulsory masks when walking from the bar to the dance floor. Which is pointless.

Or nightclubs can not require masks and just go back to normal. Which means almost everywhere else indoors now has stricter regulations than nightclubs.

Or they could just make masks recommended rather than compulsory, anywhere indoors, and let people work things out for themselves, but we feckless people up north of the border can’t ever be trusted with that sort of thing…

ResilienceWanker · 04/08/2021 16:27

I really hope the chaos around this leads to a rethink around the whole mask requirement. So drinking in pubs is fine, as close to your neighbour as you want, but sitting down in a theatre/ cinema/ classroom without a mask isn't. Confused I know it's not supposed to make sense, but still...

The JCVI approach on 16 and 17 yo is interesting. They are only getting one jag because the risk of myocarditis increases about 10 fold after the second jag, and the protection is still good, given the overall tiny risk to that age group. Obviously they have broken down and looked at the data since last week, which they did say they would do, and it doesn't seem to have been a decision borne entirely from political pressure, which is reassuring. I wonder if the one jag approach will be used for the slightly older groups too, in the future, depending on whether the breakdown of data shows the same thing in 18+. Or if there will be criticism of the approach, saying "our children should be fully protected" (whatever that means...)

Rae36 · 04/08/2021 16:30

A friend was telling me today that her dh plays in a pipe band. They can march, they can play, but they can't march and play. So they are doing something tonight where they march along, stop and play, march a bit more, stop and play. You'd think the covid would get filtered out when it goes through through whatever is inside a set of bagpipes anyway but at least they're not blowing it all along the street. Just in a few separate places.

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