Tieribly angry wee fannies fannying about with the tiers

[dancemom]

Things moved quickly so I just started a new one ...

So, on for snogging at the end of the night?

Depends who you’re snogging.

😂

Snogging is eating of sorts isn't it?

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Lots of reports this morning about vaccines for 16 & 17 year olds, seems Nic had advanced notice

Seems she did. It's not applicable to me yet but I wouldn't be having teens younger than 16 vaccinated.

My DD is 16 at the end of August - she'll be DELIGHTED.

Updated info on schools, looks like: www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-reducing-the-risks-in-schools/pages/changes-to-previous-guidance/

Changing: close contacts self-isolation and whole class self-isolation is probably going, but still might be used sometimes.

Kids can mix a bit more outside class group.

No more face coverings on school transport for under-12s

“all drama, music, PE and dance activity in schools, indoors and outdoors” is allowed but “Safety mitigations should continue to apply”

All else staying the same. School trips currently allowed at whatever was allowed at Level 0.

There was an article in the Sunday Times at the weekend along the lines of the UK would probably need to go down the route of vaccinating 12-15 year olds because a number of European countries are doing so. In Italy ( apparently) access to museums will be denied to those over 12 who are not vaccinated and France will do likewise . The thrust of the article was that UK youngsters would need to be vaxxed in order to make a holiday in Europe worth while.

much as I like a good museum, my experience of taking 12-15s around is that it's an age that can easily be foregone!

Now if they're banned entry to pizza restaurants...!

Just realised the end of isolation period is 5-17 year olds....... Wtf because those of us with nursery age children just sit around and love a 10 day isolation with no work to do!!!!

Oh, I thought that was nursery-age children don’t need to isolate either, but unlike 5-17 year olds they won’t need a negative PCR.

@Scottishskifun

Just realised the end of isolation period is 5-17 year olds....... Wtf because those of us with nursery age children just sit around and love a 10 day isolation with no work to do!!!!

"Anyone who is double-vaccinated with at least two weeks passed since their second dose and who has no symptoms will be able to end self-isolation if they return a negative PCR test. The same conditions will also apply to anyone aged between five and 17 years old, even if they have not been vaccinated. The requirement to take a PCR test will not apply to children under the age of five."

Is that definitely right @Scottishskifun? I managed to find this in official guidance. I agree it's very badly worded and ambiguous, but I read it as 5-17 year olds will need to test negative to be exempt (like doubly vaccinated adults), but under 5s don't need to test, which might mean they're just exempt without conditions. Some clarification probably required!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/covid-scotland-new-rules-nightclubs-24683658.amp

What a shambles. They're an absolute embarrassment.

I can't imagine sending your dc into nursery while mum and dad were at home with Covid. Even if it is allowed! Though I'm sure many will.

@Mistressiggi

I can't imagine sending your dc into nursery while mum and dad were at home with Covid. Even if it is allowed! Though I'm sure many will.

Why not, if they're not ill? I don't keep the whole family home just in case if one of us has flu. If they had symptoms themselves then that's different! The isolations don't just apply to family members though - it can also be staff at nursery, or grandparents, or friends, or anyone else they may have been in contact with.

@Mistressiggi

I can't imagine sending your dc into nursery while mum and dad were at home with Covid. Even if it is allowed! Though I'm sure many will.

It's not sending children in if parents are positive it's about close contacts in nursery and the whole group having to self isolate!

We have done 4 isolations 3 of those were DS counting as a close contact at nursery!

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us God I hope so but I don't get how an under 5 wouldn't have to self isolate at all unless they don't count them as close contacts at all.... (ours came from DS who is 2!)

@Scottishskifun I completely agree, we have a nursery aged one too and the thought of having to isolate every time someone in her group tests positive (especially going into winter) is pretty daunting. I was under the impression that under 5s were just completely exempt, but that may have been wishful thinking and/or getting confused with the English guidelines. To be honest, I wouldn't put it past them to keep it in place for under 5s to stop parents from leaving the house or some such nonsense, but I hope not!

@hilbil21

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/covid-scotland-new-rules-nightclubs-24683658.amp

What a shambles. They're an absolute embarrassment.

"Vertical drinking", i've heard it fucking all now...

@ElephantOfRisk there's a few folk on Twitter saying they need to have vertical drinking to allow them to end up horizontally drinking

I wonder if they have any idea how ridiculous this mish mash of remaining restrictions, which are often impractical and lead to some really stupid contradictions, looks to everyone (like children can have a house party with no limits, masks or distancing, but need to mask up next to same people in school, and their teachers need to keep masked up and 1m apart from each other in school but can forget about all that if they decide to go for dinner afterwards to someone's house, or a restaurant, or even to a night club!). For Christ's sake it really is all window dressing at this point to make it look as though we're being 'cautious' when the selection of restrictions left can't possibly be very effective, and isn't even necessary at this point as the 'English experiment' has shown that things are absolutely fine when you get rid of the lot. I really feel for the businesses trying to wade through all this shit to figure out what they can and can't do, and for the custom they'll lose to people who decide it's easier just to not bother and go round to their mates house (no limits) instead.

What is vertical drinking? Don't we do that anyway?

@hilbil21 - classic.

I'm only a couple of years younger than swinney and by my own admission, i wasn't really a party animal - however, ime, night clubs aren't really where you go to have a quiet drink at a table. Table service would be impossible as it was usually 4 deep at the bar and the seats were just where you dumped your stuff/sat for a snog or a break from dancing, otherwise you were strutting your stuff, talking shite to each other that none of you could hear and generally sloshing booze about or squashed 20 at a time in the loos with 4 cubicles.