Scunnered .... *insert tier pun

[dancemom]

New thread, couldn't think of a title 🙈

I agree on the student jag thing.
Great idea, but how would it be done?

As far as I'm aware, the student jag thing hasn't yet been proposed in Scotland - just England (and not even properly there...just bojos suggestion in a meeting of something that could increase uptake in The Yoof). It's definitely not formal policy, and Unis/ departments all seem to be planning based on something else! DHs department is working on 1m distancing, in person lectures only

Subtitles for lectures are a special kind of torture. A phrase I use is often subtitled as “Arab violence” something I have never said in any context. The automatic subtitles always choose the most offensive similar sounding word. And often changes “does” to “doesn’t” just for fun.

chemenger - yes to it seeming to be obsessed with various forms of crime and weaponry. I appreciate it must be difficult to programme this software for the huge number of possible words that could be said. But you'd have thought after a year of this, it could have realised there are certain combinations that are going to be less likely to be used than others!

• 1,044 new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 20,594 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
◦ 5.6% of these were positive
• 7 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 63 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 472 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 4,000,658 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,108,928 have received their second dose

And that is why I insist on my employer booking a stenographer to caption for me and not rely on automatic captions.
No excuse not to - the government funds it for deaf employees (access to work) and DSA funds it for deaf students.
And even worse, is being told, we'll caption it / provide a transcript after the lecture/meeting etc.
But I'm still expected to attend it.....
sigh

Will be ridiculous if universities keep 1m distancing, with all the restrictions that brings, and it's done away with everywhere else
Surely educating the next generation of scientists, engineers, nurses etc is more important than cinemas, theatres, sporting events, hospitality 🤷🏼‍♀️

At my university, its 1m distancing for teaching staff but no SD for office staff.
So if you spend Monday in an office all day, you are right next to all your colleagues
but come Tuesday, if you are teaching, you need to stay apart
NS on telly now talking about school safety etc but nothing about students.

@YeDancer

And that is why I insist on my employer booking a stenographer to caption for me and not rely on automatic captions. No excuse not to - the government funds it for deaf employees (access to work) and DSA funds it for deaf students. And even worse, is being told, we'll caption it / provide a transcript after the lecture/meeting etc. But I'm still expected to attend it..... sigh

Sounds sooo frustrating! Though DH (and it sounds like chemenger) is having to do the work himself because the automatic captions are useless. Though captioning a 40 min lecture properly is a 2 hour job, he is just embarrassed to release it as it stands, and thinks, quite rightly that it shouldn't be up to the student to find someone to do it for them once THEY realise the captions are useless. And, let's face it, a stenographer is less likely to understand the subject matter and vocabulary used than he is, so could still get stuff wrong! But it does kind of put to bed the idea that "recording lectures is just to make things easier for the lecturers". Having to attend a lecturer without an interpreter/ transcriber does sound crazy though.

"NS on telly now talking about school safety etc but nothing about students."

@YeDancer has there been an update on the plan for schools then? It's what, three weeks till they open? It would be good to know whether there will still be staggered start times, bubbles etc. beforehand. I get that she was hoping that teenagers would be vaccinated, but since the JCVI advised against it there needs to be something else put in place so that we don't have more of the isolations farce.

she was just talking about how kids can't be vaccinated yet in response to several questions about the return to school. Nothing specific but it seemed to me that some rules will stay in place due to no jags.

@latissimusdorsi

Will be ridiculous if universities keep 1m distancing, with all the restrictions that brings, and it's done away with everywhere else Surely educating the next generation of scientists, engineers, nurses etc is more important than cinemas, theatres, sporting events, hospitality 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yes, that's true! Though they had to base their planning on something, as the SG weren't giving them any help as to what the requirements might be come September! At the time they were planning which rooms to book and so on, the rule was still 2m, with no suggestion the SG were ever going to move from that, so there was a fair chance that even with 1m they'd be stuffed... But in good news, lots of humanities subjects had decided not to have in person stuff at all, so they had choice of the central lecture rooms next to all the best pubs

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us

"NS on telly now talking about school safety etc but nothing about students."

@YeDancer has there been an update on the plan for schools then? It's what, three weeks till they open? It would be good to know whether there will still be staggered start times, bubbles etc. beforehand. I get that she was hoping that teenagers would be vaccinated, but since the JCVI advised against it there needs to be something else put in place so that we don't have more of the isolations farce.

Apparently the education recovery group has suggested that the same restrictions apply at the beginning of term that have been in place last year. So isolation of close contacts, LF testing and masks for high school etc (It was in some minutes from June, I think, rather than actually being formally announced). Though of course, NS isn't bound by that - but it does sound things are going that way if she is still bemoaning the lack of children's vaccines in public.

They really need to stop this bollocks and send the children back as normal now. Absolutely no need for masks, testing, bubbles, isolating now teachers will be jagged or young.

Yes absolutely would, if a vaccine resistant mutation appears then instant reconsideration but otherwise...

And what about for nurseries and primary schools? Certainly no imminent likelihood of vaccinating those age ranges, so would it not be possible for them to clarify now whether or not bubbles and isolation periods are still going to feature?

It'll be max 10 days before term starts if the next announcements aren't until Tuesday. I'm not sure that's really "plenty of time" .

In the meantime, I'll keep by some weeks of annual leave for the future isolation periods that we've come to know and love....

"Yes absolutely would, if a vaccine resistant mutation appears then instant reconsideration but otherwise..."

It does look a bit as though we are wilfully imposing the known and significant harms of disrupted education etc. in order to mitigate against a potential theoretical harm of a vaccine-resistant variant at some point in the future (unless we are secretly still obsessed with keeping cases low). I'm not even sure there's good evidence that things like bubbles/masks in schools have much benefit in terms of preventing this anyway. Priorities seem well off with the SG.

Apparently vaccine escape/mutation is quite unlikely. I was reading a scientist on it today, it’s pretty interesting.

And in the unlikely event it does, then yes, rethink then

Yes, absolutely no need to hold off on announcing school return plan, if only they’d had the respect to inform school management teams before the end of term. As it stands, it’ll be a kick, b, scramble on the in-service days to make any SD changes before the children return.

Today’s television appearance was basically used to accuse fellow politicians and journalists- who’ve dared to question the vaccine stats- of not being intellectual enough to grasp what she meant.
After all, she does read weighty books of an evening and we, the minions, can’t begin to understand the stats ourselves so with all these journalists asking questions for us and then misinterpreting the data so recklessly, we’re really in a cafuffle, aren’t we? When in doubt, pop in a TV appearance to telt us all.

BytheLoch - I was shocked how insulting she came across when she made that statement, about assuming people had a level of intelligence to be able to interpret.

Yes! I see we mere plebs can’t understand things like herself can 😂

Yes - I have no idea why she's decided to make that the hill she wanted to die on! She could easily have said - "whoops, I used the wrong word in error... I meant to say "offered" or "given appointments for" but I made a mistake. My bad. But the point I meant to make was every over 40 should have had a letter for their second jab by the 26th... And we met that target" (or whatever it was). Or even, "I accept I could have been clearer - sorry for the misunderstanding I caused". Rather than doubling down on everyone being stupid enough not to know that "given" actually means the same as "offered"

Even I accept it is going well, and the rollout in most areas has been successful (despite individual issues) so why not float on that cloud for a bit, while admitting there is a bit of a delay in getting to the younger folks in some areas...?

@WouldBeGood

Yes! I see we mere plebs can’t understand things like herself can 😂

Well, if she thinks she has more understanding than the general population she has set the bar pretty low. I honestly can't limbo under that so I guess I'll just have to step above it... But then she has all the info that we poor plebs are not allowed to know.

I think she is too distracted after shouting 20 times a day "for fucks sake Pete what did you spend all that money on?"

I think she is too distracted after shouting 20 times a day "for fucks sake Pete what did you spend all that money on?"

😂😂😂😂😂
Offices apparently....... Bet they got one of those expensive coffee machines which plays different music depending on what you select..... Yep they exist went to a client meeting in a office with one ages ago! 😂

@Scottishskifun oh my! I want one now 😂