Tiering up the Covid elimination strategy

[dancemom]

Sadly the end was not as close as we thought so new thread required ....

Just checking in to say I love this title! Also very glad to (hopefully) be seeing the back of the elimination strategy.

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😂 Love the title and very happy at the thought of it going!

My friends wedding going ahead or not depends on it! They don't want to get married with a ban on music/dancing and generally having fun which is completely understandable!

Am here too

Thanks guys! I really need this pandemic to be over soon though, running out of thread titles 😆

Thanks for new thread @dancemom

Oh thanks, hadn't seen the new thread! Will continue the convo here.

Why are none of the opposition calling for him to resign? Or prosecuted? He really is so like Trump.
He said he wanted to inject himself with covid on live TV, he said he should have been the mayor in jaws rather than lockdown, he said let the bodies pile high, he refused to shut the borders (leading to 100's of thousands of deaths and a year of lost lives and livelihoods). Yet he's still in post and all the opposition are asking for is enquiries and apologies. He should be prosecuted.

Thanks dancemom Continuing the run of great thread titles! Sadly, turns out the end wasn't quite as certiernly near as hoped... But yes, fingers crossed we are getting there.

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Thanks for the new thread.

I think prosecution would/should happen but let's face it, there will be zero consequences for him. Politicians like him have decided that resignations are not for the likes of him. We are the fucking idiots who re-elected him so what could he possibly have to fear?

I am really angry tonight. And my cat is lying on my bed trying to bring up a fur ball

Oh also thanks you @dancemom for the thread, and for keeping the daily updates coming even when these threads are quiet.

Yes thank you @dancemom ... I check them (and am grateful) every day, even when I don't comment / thank you properly.

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@SoMuchForSummerLove

I think prosecution would/should happen but let's face it, there will be zero consequences for him. Politicians like him have decided that resignations are not for the likes of him. We are the fucking idiots who re-elected him so what could he possibly have to fear?

I am really angry tonight. And my cat is lying on my bed trying to bring up a fur ball

Yes. I don't even think they've asked for him to appear at the hearing. Surely he should be.

It's just insane that absolutelyno border measureswere put in place during the first lockdown, which allowed a continual stream of infections to enter the country, even while people remained in their homes.

Surely this counts as gross negligence?

Oh but wait we are very special, and the only island nation in the world that can't close itself off. Don't you know we're a world trade hub? Closing borders is for piddly insignificant countries.

When you think of all the months in lockdown, peoples mental health stretched to the limit, in order to try to keep infections down.....and meanwhile people flying in here from all over bringing new infections in....

But to me, whats even worse than that, is the voters mainly in England, who vote for these clowns and always will.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

Oh but wait we are very special, and the only island nation in the world that can't close itself off. Don't you know we're a world trade hub? Closing borders is for piddly insignificant countries.

It's more food and goods supplies which make it very difficult to do as majority come in via lorry.

Singapore has done well ibut they also had a very strict track and trace system with proper backward tracing which we still haven't set up properly.

I agree they should have shut borders sooner to only essential work reasons but they were too late by a long shot and then it became pretty futile! Ship had sailed!

Last March the ship had sailed for sure, but last summer there was a period where travel was permitted with very few restrictions - at that time there was no approved vaccine. And lo and behold cases started to rise in September? Surely you can admit that was a fuck up? Countries that have successfully contained Covid have had travel restrictions for the duration. I can’t see a scenario whereby any investigation into the handling of Covid is not going to find that travel played a huge part in the second wave.

It seems very convenient for the Brexit Tories to blame food and other supplies coming by truck likely from the EU tbh.

And of course no other countries rely on outside trade. Just us, seemingly.

@florafoxtrot don't disagree that travel last summer was a bad idea. But the virus was still circulating in the UK and Scotland prior and through the summer. It never went away.
Mass testing was difficult to get slots for and only for symptom cases. We now know the number of asystomatic cases is much higher than originally believed.

In industries which had testing for a large part when it was difficult to get (e.g oil and gas before offshore travel) cases were still being recorded.

I haven't seen any Tory blaming lorries from Europe as a source. What I was stating is that this is the main route for food supply into the UK. We don't produce enough of our own to cut that off and its also a major export route for food and goods (look at the mess that a few days of France closing the border to UK lorries did).

Mass food shortages were caused in March by panic buying including of baby formula! You can't just cut off the main food supply route by saying borders shut.

The island nations who have done well have quarantine for all including the likes of pilots. They have also had major criticism for leaving their residents completely stranded some of which still cannot get a repatriation flight back!

@forfucksakenett

And of course no other countries rely on outside trade. Just us, seemingly.

Europe has allowed lorry trade. US trade is via sea or air freight for large amounts - Canada there is some cross trade but actually the tariffs are pretty high. China and Asia largely produces there own but most other imports by air or sea. Australia, New Zealand, Japan import via Air or Sea.

Europe, UK and Ireland are heavily reliant on lorry distribution of food and goods.

I’m afraid I just can’t buy into the rhetoric that all this was inevitable, that bad decisions weren’t made which need to be investigated and there needs to be accountability.