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Tiering up the Covid elimination strategy

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dancemom · 26/05/2021 20:04

Sadly the end was not as close as we thought so new thread required ....

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rookiemere · 27/05/2021 18:21

I found you all - love the new title.
We're off to a hotel on Saturday night - same place we had our wedding reception, can't wait for someone else to cook me breakfast Smile.

ssd · 27/05/2021 18:24

We're off to a B&B on Sunday!!

Waahay, what are we like Grin

Coquohvan · 27/05/2021 18:24

@suggestionsplease1

So do people think Glasgow will come out of Level 3 tomorrow or is that too much to hope for?
This statement from WM is interesting.

Downing Street said there would be no extra financial support for the hospitality sector, local authorities or other businesses in the Covid hotspot areas beyond what is already available

Sounds like the money tap is turned off.

ssd · 27/05/2021 18:26

I noticed driving round the southside earlier, a lot of small shops that have closed down are being refitted, about to become something else. It felt quite promising.

ssd · 27/05/2021 18:31

@rookiemere

I found you all - love the new title. We're off to a hotel on Saturday night - same place we had our wedding reception, can't wait for someone else to cook me breakfast Smile.
I choose somewhere specifically as the breakfast reviews were great...and there's home baking 😍
rookiemere · 27/05/2021 18:40

That sounds amazing @ssd . I better try to exercise a modicum of self restraint at breakfast as we're also off for Sunday lunch with some friends that are up #makingupforlosttime

Debating putting the Christmas tree up for family arriving tomorrow seeing as we didn't see them at the right time.

suggestionsplease1 · 27/05/2021 18:42

@Coquohvan O that's interesting, thanks. Yes that will add another pressure.

I must admit I'm not really clued up on how funding to support businesses has been arranged - has it all been through Westminster or have the devolved governments also come up with anything themselves/

StarryEyeSurprise · 27/05/2021 18:43

@Scottishskifun

Well let's hope they have a response like Moray!

BBC article said testing increased 6 fold, 70% of 18-29 Yr olds now vaccinated, 68% of 30-39 year olds and 80% of 40-49 year olds.

Let's hope Glasgows uptake will be as high!

👍 I've got family in Moray. It'll be much harder to achieve the same rates in Govanhill but there were large queues outside the vaccination centre today.
WouldBeGood · 27/05/2021 19:01

Scotsnet is carousing this weekend 😃 Slainte!

Coquohvan · 27/05/2021 19:02

@suggestionsplease1 every penny has come from WM. However it’s up to the devolved countries how/where it’s spent and how quickly the cash is distributed.
I know personally off business’s who have had to chase and chase for what WM said they were due. 🤷‍♀️

Haudyourwheesht · 27/05/2021 19:08

We're away up North too illegally. Can't believe I'll be waking up tomorrow in a bed that's not my own! I could (and probably will) cry.

WouldBeGood · 27/05/2021 19:12

Enjoy @Haudyourwheesht!

WouldBeGood · 27/05/2021 19:13

I cried when I got back to yoga class 😳

titsintiers · 27/05/2021 19:14

Sounds like a lovely weekend everyone

#makingmemories enjoy huns

titsintiers · 27/05/2021 19:15

I should clarify that was a piss takeI never call anyone hun and I hate the making memories chat.

WouldBeGood · 27/05/2021 19:25

@titsintiers aww, sweetie, no need to apologise, all over the #makingmemories here 💕💕

suggestionsplease1 · 27/05/2021 19:50
Grin
Scottishskifun · 28/05/2021 09:59

Well Wales are storming through vaccines from a BBC article today and looks like the current push along with walk in clinics has increased Scotlands vaccination rate!

Thought the graphic was pretty useful as it excludes the lower population countries so is more comparable. This is first doses but still pretty amazing!

Also found out that some preliminary studies have shown if you had covid in the last 6 months and had a Pfizer or moderna jab then antibody level 2 weeks after jab is actually higher than people who haven't had covid and had both doses. Which might mean that more people are very well protected earlier than it appears. Studies were low cohorts of a couple of hundred but seems to be good news!

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Mistressinthetulips · 28/05/2021 10:09

I've been checking the vaccination site every day and have just seen my second one is up! No letter yet. It's when I would be exactly 10 weeks. I'm wondering whether to try to bring it forward or if it's actually more effective with a ten week gap? (It's AZ)
Posting as I have no one to ask! SadGrin

Scottishskifun · 28/05/2021 10:14

@Mistressinthetulips

I've been checking the vaccination site every day and have just seen my second one is up! No letter yet. It's when I would be exactly 10 weeks. I'm wondering whether to try to bring it forward or if it's actually more effective with a ten week gap? (It's AZ) Posting as I have no one to ask! SadGrin
Sounds like they are bringing it forward slightly. The studies so far have shown with AZ that second dose after 9 weeks has a higher antibody protection level though so 10 weeks is fine (there is info on the studies on the zoe app if interested).
TheMShip · 28/05/2021 10:17

There's been lots of discussion over whether people in hospital with Covid are actually there because they need to be treated for Covid. I found Meaghan Kall's recent twitter thread on the latest PHE update really useful in this regard because they do make a calculation of this number. Kall is a PHE analyst who works on these reports. I know it's England and not Scotland, but it should be fairly similar. Note that this is data specific to the Indian variant of concern, but as that is now the dominant variant, that's probably most cases at this point.

twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1397987124750782470

The info about cases in hospital is in the caption to the figure of the first tweet in the thread, which I have attached here and copied the relevant text into this post.

Cases with an A&E visit/where presentation to A&E resulted in overnight inpatient hospital admission: At least one attendance within 28 days of positive specimen date; cases where specimen date is the same as or after the date of A&E visit are excluded to help remove cases whose primary cause of admission is not COVID-19 picked up via routine testing in healthcare settings. This underestimates the true number of cases who have attended emergency care due to COVID-19 but avoids overestimation due to asymptomatic people attending emergency care for unrelated conditions; validation of this dataset is being undertaken.

So it looks like 3.6% of cases are resulting in an A&E visit, of which 21.4% are admitted. The data in the table does go back to 1 Feb, but something like 90% of the cases are from May (data not shown here) with a well vaccinated over 65 population. I don't know how similar that is to when we had a mostly unvaccinated population in the autumn, which is what we really need to know! I also don't know whether or not PHE uses this filter for its hospitalization figures that go into the public dashboard. If they do, then it's unlikely that there is a large proportion of people in hospital who are only coincidentally positive for Covid.

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Mistressinthetulips · 28/05/2021 10:23

Thanks, Scottishskimum. Think I should just stick with it - actually looking online there's nothing to change to! Though I know sometimes it changes. With England moving to an 8 week gap I did wonder.

ssd · 28/05/2021 12:21

641 new cases today, r number 1.3

Lets hope Glasgow moves into level 2

ssd · 28/05/2021 12:22

Looking hopeful....

ssd · 28/05/2021 12:24

Hurry up nicola im on my break Confused

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