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The End is CerTEIRnly in Sight ...

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dancemom · 30/04/2021 15:01

New thread, possibly the last?

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ResilienceWanker · 14/05/2021 09:32

[quote WhatWouldTheDoctorDo]@mondaywine have you contacted the helpline? My letter didn't arrive - I would have missed my appointment if I hadn't called. 44/45 year old friends in Edinburgh have appointments - some have had letters, others found out by calling helpline. [/quote]
This is really annoying! The letters system is bonkers, but on the NHS website it basically says "be patient, you'll get your letter when you're due..." but if people don't get it in time, that's not particularly helpful, is it!

The website specifically says the helpline is for people who don't have a GP or CHI number, or for group 1 to 9 who still haven't had a letter, and it's only here that I've heard of 40-49 people phoning it on the off-chance that they should have had a letter... official advice is just to wait. I'm a thrawn bugger, so think I'll just wait... then at least if I miss it I have some chance of rearranging it at an appropriate venue/ time and I won't feel guilty about setting the appointment to suit me and not struggling to meet their randomly assigned appointment Grin It just seems such a ridiculous waste of resources when an online system would have been so simple to just give everyone access to.

I agree Glasgow vaccines should be accelerated though. The numbers are a bit scary, and I know that no longer matters (hospitalisations and deaths no longer being linked as strongly), but it does matter if the SG are using it as a reason to reintroduce lockdown. It's obvious that from Monday, anyone in tier 3 Moray will travel to a tier 2 to do anything there that they want to, and that will risk spreading cases to neighbouring authorities that may not otherwise need to have been affected (people preferring to stay local and support local, familiar businesses where possible). If Glasgow is kept in tier 3 it will bugger the relevant businesses in Glasgow, and just increase the spread to neighbouring authorities, which will be locked down in turn. It's a stupid system.

latissimusdorsi · 14/05/2021 09:52

Letters worked well with the older age group, no work commitments and we were in lockdown so they were all sitting at home anyway.

Now we're onto working population there will be more can't make their allocated appointment.

And the very young (under 30s) are much more mobile population and may not even live at address on medical notes anymore! What about all the students who may be registered at university but home for the summer?

And once we're into June/July people could be away on holiday when letter arrives and have missed appointment if it's less than weeks notice!

It really needs to change to online booking now!

Scottishskifun · 14/05/2021 11:16

Yep letters aren't working our local vaccination centre is getting loads of no shows! It does mean they are working through the standby call list but soon there will be no one on that and it will go in the bin!

I had to call and cancel a friends (no longer lives in the country) they initially said put return to sender except its for next Tuesday so wouldn't get back and processed in time and yet again more wasted doses!

Its really frustrating when people are desperate to get it!

dancemom · 14/05/2021 14:34

• 215* new cases of COVID-19 reported
• 17,457* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
◦ 1.3% of these were positive
• 2 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
• 3 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 64 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
• 2,985,557 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,575,765 have received their second dose

  • Please note Public Health Scotland (PHS) are aware of a potential data issue affecting the flow of tests from UK Government testing sites from 8pm on 13 May 2021 until 9am this morning (14 May 2021) which has impacted on the numbers reported today (14May 2021) being lower than expected. This has now resolved and the missing data will be reported tomorrow (15 May 2021).
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dancemom · 14/05/2021 14:35

637,325 vaccinations in 🇬🇧 yesterday

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 173,820 1st doses / 378,650 2nd doses
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 17,388 / 24,426
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 14,963 / 13,813
NI 3,113 / 11,152

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ssd · 14/05/2021 15:25

Ive just looked at the thread title. Is the end still in sight? I read a few threads on here about the Indian varient and im worried. Also saw something boris said about it. So i went a walk to clear my head. I dont know what to think. I cant say fuck it lets just live with it, it affects too much. Personally me and dh are ok but i feel my graduate kids futures are fucked. Its so bad. Please dont hush me up, ive had it with others on mn rubbishing me. Has anyone seen any recent reports that the Indian varient isnt as bad as it seems? I know theres no certainty either way, but the reaction to this new varient feels more serious than others.

ssd · 14/05/2021 15:27

I agree about the online booking for vaccines. Dont know why we didnt have this ages ago. Our government has missed a trick here.

Scottishskifun · 14/05/2021 15:37

@ssd they are studying it quickly and intently.
At the moment its a bit unknown the issues in India can't be compared due to the healthcare system, no lockdowns, still working etc because they have to.

So far although the number of detected cases has increased there hasn't been a hospital admissions rate yet. There can be a lag for this but if it was a lot more deadly quickly then you would expect to see it being shown in the outputs pretty quickly - it takes a few days for instance to get positive samples then to the genome lab for sequencing etc.

It's more serious reaction because the cases detected are spread and higher generally on a whole we have kept the SA and Brazil variant out and only occurred in low numbers.

I think it's easy to get sucked into a dark pit with it all. The nature of covid means it mutates quickly unfortunately. Best thing is to ignore the scare mongering or discussion and follow the scientists on it but also feel better in the knowledge that the UK immunity is higher than a lot of places.

WouldBeGood · 14/05/2021 15:47

@ssd it appears that Pfizer and AZ are nigh effective against the Indian variant and that there is no cause for alarm.

Try following Mac n Chise on Twitter for rational and positive analysis

WouldBeGood · 14/05/2021 15:47

Are both effective! No idea where nigh came from 😳

ssd · 14/05/2021 16:00

Thats brilliant if the vaccines are both effective. Thats such good news.

ssd · 14/05/2021 16:01

You are right about the dark pit @Scottishskifun

WouldBeGood · 14/05/2021 16:19

@ssd hope these help

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Scottishskifun · 14/05/2021 16:26

@ssd

You are right about the dark pit *@Scottishskifun*
Yep! Media doesn't help with the scare mongering either then throw in forums of everyone apparently having a degree in immunology and virology and it just feels impossible and never ending!

Its why I stick to the scientists, zoe app information sessions etc to see what they are saying. Not all scientists agree either it's the nature of science but they do generally follow consensus.

Occasionally I do question some SG approaches to me it's bizarre to follow guidelines which were produced before we had a vaccine roll out or found out exactly how highly effective they are at not only reducing serious cases but also risk of spreading and catching it in the first place!

I also rail about the SG guidance as it contradicts itself a lot and isn't public user friendly!

ResilienceWanker · 14/05/2021 16:43

Urgh. Glasgow and Moray to stay in tier 3. So sorry for those of you affected Sad

EvilOnion · 14/05/2021 16:45

As long as schools don't shut I'm happy tbh😁

Haudyourwheesht · 14/05/2021 16:50

What a fucking kick in the teeth to hospitality in Glasgow. We have not been allowed to drink alcohol indoors in Glasgow for 7 MONTHS. We have not been allowed to visit others households for longer than that. Maybe it's time to try a different strategy? Fuck her.

randomsabreuse · 14/05/2021 16:56

I'd imagine it will be crazy busy just over the borders then. Which will probably drag the rest of the Greater Glasgow health board (plus Lanarkshire) down as well.

Such a nightmare for Glasgow hospitality businesses who will have been gearing up for the big reopening of indoors for ages!

ssd · 14/05/2021 17:06

@ResilienceWanker

Urgh. Glasgow and Moray to stay in tier 3. So sorry for those of you affected Sad
Ah shite
WouldBeGood · 14/05/2021 17:07

@Haudyourwheesht

What a fucking kick in the teeth to hospitality in Glasgow. We have not been allowed to drink alcohol indoors in Glasgow for 7 MONTHS. We have not been allowed to visit others households for longer than that. Maybe it's time to try a different strategy? Fuck her.
It’s a fucking disgrace
latissimusdorsi · 14/05/2021 17:08

Anyone know if there's a ban on travelling in and out of the level 3 areas?

IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021 · 14/05/2021 17:09

Yes @latissimusdorsi

GlasgowsGreen · 14/05/2021 17:10

Does this mean I’m saved from visiting the parents in law (indoors) for another week or two? Trying to look on the bright side. Smile

ssd · 14/05/2021 17:11

I think Glasgow has had it worse than anywhere else in the uk.

Why didnt they concentrate the vaccine here???

titsintiers · 14/05/2021 17:14

So is it Glasgow City Council area or Glasgow post codes? Apologies for the daft question.

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