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Thread 7 - No pitch forks or Pom Poms - Scottish political shenanigans

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TheShadowyFeminist · 06/04/2021 15:46

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WouldBeGood · 26/04/2021 21:52

Look at the For Women Scotland analysis of Scottish party election policies for women.

This is serious. The SNP and greens are the wurst but women’s fundamental rights are being systematically eroded.

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:00

I've read their film review style 'analysis' and find it wanting tbh.

Not mentioning something doesn't equate to being for women.

I've also seen them begging Douglas Ross and Anas Sarwar to do a dance off. Hmm

Alba got five stars. Not throwing your vote their way?

WouldBeGood · 26/04/2021 22:04

I don’t find Alec Salmond and his motley crew appealing. But I’m glad they’re speaking out in the gender nonsense.

I won’t vote for them as I don’t want independence and if I did I’d want it with EU membership not the EFTA suggestion they’re running on.

Scottishskifun · 26/04/2021 22:07

I thought this wasn't supposed to be pitch forks thread......

I liked Ana's Saward dance. Out of all of them he and labour are my standout because they are acting like adults, answering questions and focusing on recovery.

I really really hate but I'm better then them so nerrr nerrr née neerrr neerrr politics which is what I see with the other leaders at the moment.

Would also like to see a dance off and a bit of human behaviour! It's a bloody serious job but I relate the most to party leaders who can also show a bit of fun in life it shows they are human!

WouldBeGood · 26/04/2021 22:08

I like Sarwar’s approach too. Away from this bloody one issue Scotland.

And a bit of a mover 😃

RedactedTaeFeck · 26/04/2021 22:12

What a load of old shit. Vote Tory all you like but don't kid on it's for the good of women.

And don't vote SNP kidding on that it's for the best for the Scottish population either.

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:13

You want to see them do a dance off? I have to admit that I'm confused by that.

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:14

@RedactedTaeFeck

What a load of old shit. Vote Tory all you like but don't kid on it's for the good of women.

And don't vote SNP kidding on that it's for the best for the Scottish population either.

In my opinion it is.
WouldBeGood · 26/04/2021 22:14

@forfucksakenett... it’s a joke... light hearted fun

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:16

Oh. I seem to remember when NS posted a pic of her getting her hair cut and got roundly berated on these threads for 'being human'.

These two are to get their John Travolta on though? 🤣 okay doke.

WaxOnFeckOff · 26/04/2021 22:18

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forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:21

@WaxOnFeckOff no it's my opinion as I said. You are entitled to yours and I am entitled to disagree.

This isn't rocket science. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Scottishskifun · 26/04/2021 22:21

@forfucksakenett

You want to see them do a dance off? I have to admit that I'm confused by that.
Christ alive heard of having a laugh or not taking life so seriously?!

And a haircut isn't dancing its dull as dishwater! Actually the criticism for the haircut was being outside her own council area whilst telling everyone else to stick in them.

Yeah why not a dance off they regularly have shout offs!

TheShadowyFeminist · 26/04/2021 22:26

The SNP oversaw the development of prison policy that places violent males in female prisons, ignores both incarcerated women & female prison staff as 'stakeholders' in a policy developed by Scottish Trans Alliance (who wilfully misrepresent the law on discrimination & 'strategised' using the vulnerability of female prisoners to enforce male inclusion beyond prisons) & have stalled a review of that policy for more than 2 years.

Humza Yousaf recognised the vulnerability of refugee women who have been subjected to male abuse, and understood why single sex facilities for those women are vital. Women who have no recourse to public funds are particularly vulnerable. Yet has done nothing about the women incarcerated in Scottish prisons, also just as vulnerable, also with a high proportion having endured male violence, including sexual violence. Rhona Hotchkiss (ex corntonvale prison governor) has described how she's been contacted by both male & female prison staff, upset at what they are witnessing in terms of the impact that having male prisoners in the female estate is doing to the female prisoners. The SNP/Sturgeon have made clear they couldn't give a shiny shit about vulnerable women in prisons. Their mental health/vulnerability to self harm/addiction/suicide ideation isn't a vote winner. Nappy wearing male fetishists on the other hand...

People voting Tory because of the SNP's disdain for vulnerable women aren't doing it because they think the GRA reform will be dropped or the HCB will be repealed. It's about getting voices into Holyrood that can challenge the direction of travel on this coming from every other party, where women can get their perspectives included. Questions asked by MSPs can help & can draw out important information/details needed for judicial challenge, which is where this is all heading. Any MSP of any party willing to ask Qs in women's interests is what this is about. Not literal overturning legislation.

Maybe some people think others views on voting is literally an expectation of the Tories championing women's rights. Personally, I don't think anyone here is that naive. Politics isn't ever that straightforward or simple. I think tactically voting, because the SNP are unreasonably stubborn on their ideological agenda, doesn't suggest people are stupid or claiming manifesto pledges that don't exist. It's a reflection on how angry women are over how the SNP have manipulated & bulldozed over women in their pursuit of their regressive progressive & how they'll even vote Tory in desperation to try and push back on this.

The SNP will do their SNP 'thing' and pretend that women who vote Tory in response to the SNP's disdain for women, are just ignorant, or fools, or 'right wing bigots anyway' & continue to ignore women's concerns. Because they are arrogant enough to think they don't need to consider women's concerns.

For what it's worth, voting Tory is a step too far for me. But I'm certainly looking at my options tactically.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 26/04/2021 22:26

[quote forfucksakenett]@WaxOnFeckOff no it's my opinion as I said. You are entitled to yours and I am entitled to disagree.

This isn't rocket science. 🤷🏻‍♀️[/quote]
So why did did you then say that someone else's opinion was a load of old shit?

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:29

@WaxOnFeckOff Because I think voting Tory for women is a load of old shit? You might think otherwise as is your right.

TheShadowyFeminist · 26/04/2021 22:29

Humza being a hypocrite

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WouldBeGood · 26/04/2021 22:32

Thanks @TheShadowyFeminist. Very well put.

Humza is truly an appalling man.

RedactedTaeFeck · 26/04/2021 22:36

@forfucksakenett

*@WaxOnFeckOff* Because I think voting Tory for women is a load of old shit? You might think otherwise as is your right.
and so you get the post deleted? One which is basically quoting your own?

So you can say someone else's view is a load of old shit but no-one is allowed to say yours is, because we are all all allowed our own opinions? Hypocrite

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:40

I didn't ask for a post to be deleted.

Feel free to say my opinion is a load of old shit.

You thinking my opinion is shit doesn't bother me in the least? Why on earth would it?

RedactedTaeFeck · 26/04/2021 22:48

@forfucksakenett

I didn't ask for a post to be deleted.

Feel free to say my opinion is a load of old shit.

You thinking my opinion is shit doesn't bother me in the least? Why on earth would it?

Well exactly why should it? But don't start preaching that everyone is allowed an opinion when what you mean is that everyone is allowed to have your opinion otherwise it's a shit opinion and then get annoyed when this is pointed out
forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 22:51

I have to laugh that you think I'm annoyed.

It's you dishing out the insults.

We are all entitled to our opinions. Nowhere have I said everyone has to agree with me.

Why can't you cope with the idea that I think voting Tory for women's rights is a load of old shit? Maybe a wee nerve has been hit, eh?

RedactedTaeFeck · 26/04/2021 22:56

@forfucksakenett

I have to laugh that you think I'm annoyed.

It's you dishing out the insults.

We are all entitled to our opinions. Nowhere have I said everyone has to agree with me.

Why can't you cope with the idea that I think voting Tory for women's rights is a load of old shit? Maybe a wee nerve has been hit, eh?

oh dear oh dear. Not hit a nerve in the slightest. Just sick of the hypocrisy. I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck what you think to be honest as I have no respect for your views at all.

I do however completely respect your right to have them. I'll leave you to have the last word on it though as some people seem to think that means they have won an argument.

forfucksakenett · 26/04/2021 23:02

@RedactedTaeFeck there is no hypocrisy.

We're all entitled to think each other's opinions are shit. We're all entitled to express it.

Yet for some reason this causes you to swear and rant. Bizarre 🤷🏻‍♀️

Of course you'll leave me to have the last word. What on earth else could you say? You have decided something that is quite simply incorrect. Best to just slink off and claim you intended it.

WaxOnFeckOff · 26/04/2021 23:12

[quote forfucksakenett]@RedactedTaeFeck there is no hypocrisy.

We're all entitled to think each other's opinions are shit. We're all entitled to express it.

Yet for some reason this causes you to swear and rant. Bizarre 🤷🏻‍♀️

Of course you'll leave me to have the last word. What on earth else could you say? You have decided something that is quite simply incorrect. Best to just slink off and claim you intended it.

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