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The Fall Out Continues - thread 6

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TheShadowyFeminist · 26/03/2021 13:32

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DivGirl · 28/03/2021 19:32

Which part isn’t true? Both are easy enough to verify using google.

StarryEyeSurprise · 28/03/2021 20:03

So the external auditors and the police have done nothing on the back of £600k stolen?

StarryEyeSurprise · 28/03/2021 20:05

As money doesn't go 'missing'. It'll be there in the full accounts.

DivGirl · 28/03/2021 20:10

The accounts were published - it’s not there. They’ve been asked if it’s held somewhere separate but there’s never really been an answer to that.

StarryEyeSurprise · 28/03/2021 20:15

Yes there has, it's in the full accounts. It's not gone missing or been stolen.

WouldBeGood · 28/03/2021 20:20

Why did the accounts people resign?

Ianrankinfan · 28/03/2021 20:24

wingsoverscotland.com/the-invisible-weaving

StarryEyeSurprise · 28/03/2021 20:28

I was just about to say - I can only see WoS and The Express mentioning resignations?

WouldBeGood · 28/03/2021 20:31

Are you suggesting they haven’t resigned @StarryEyeSurprise?

WouldBeGood · 28/03/2021 20:36

On Twitter

The Fall Out Continues - thread 6
StatisticallyChallenged · 28/03/2021 20:40

The Scottish mail on sunday carried it too - I'm struggling to find it online, might have been print only

scroll to page 22

picture of that article on twitter

ATieLikeRichardGere · 28/03/2021 20:49

The resignations were reported in the Telegraph as well:
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/26/special-report-sturgeon-clings-tarnished-crown-inquiries-lift/amp/

I’m not sure what to make of it but I would definitely like to know more.

OhBuggerandArse · 28/03/2021 21:31

@StarryEyeSurprise from that Telegraph article, this doesn't sound like the money being in the 'full accounts':

Questions about management of the SNP’s finances are not new: the party raised £600,000 for a second referendum campaign which it claimed was “ringfenced”, but only had £97,000 in the bank in its most recent accounts, and members now report being asked for more donations for a referendum “fighting fund”.

TheShadowyFeminist · 28/03/2021 22:05

I think part of the problem was they took a huge hit financially by the 2019 election - they're still a smallish party (region wise, they don't operate through the whole of the UK) albeit their membership was quite high a few years ago (120k-ish). So an unscheduled election in their 5 yr financial cycle wouldn't have been easy to fund. But they've been shedding members since their peak, with a massive exodus when Cherry was sacked (not great timing as they'd already started asking members to pay their dues early) and now with the Alba exodus, I wonder what their numbers are like now.

I don't know how true this is but I saw it mentioned that Salmond's SNP had about 20k members before they got the indyref secured, and it's been suggested he's managed to attract a similar number for Alba party.

In terms of finances, I've no idea what they've done with the Indyref fund as it was raised money for a specific cause. The explanation given was it was mixed through their accounts & not visible in their published accounts. That sounds like BS to me. But I am not an accountant so can't say what all this means.

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RonSwan · 29/03/2021 10:38

Anyone else feel like they are watching a bad soap opera?

Blurberoo · 29/03/2021 10:39

It’s like a BBC Scotland version of The Thick of It

ATieLikeRichardGere · 29/03/2021 10:48

Some recent news seems to be:
-Glasgow Councillor Michelle Ferns joins Alba
-Alba won’t be in tomorrow’s leaders debate
-Some ongoing stuff to do with the Alba data leak/hack

Very much The Thick of It

annabelindajane · 29/03/2021 11:04

Don’t forget we are paying these people’s wages😂

TheShadowyFeminist · 29/03/2021 11:16

The Alba exclusion from the leaders debate will backfire I think. They've dominated press/social media all w/e & I'd be surprised if they can keep their existence out of the discussion. And if it's all very negative as it's been already, that's not going to look good - prevent them from participating & deny them a right to reply to one way negative characterisation. And no matter the intended effect of the negative framing of Alba by other parties, the negative criticism without giving Alba a chance to respond will just make them all look like they're running scared. All the unionist parties will blame the SNP for the 'gerrymandering' of the system & SNP/Greens will just smear Alba as irrelevant & question Salmond's suitability for office.

If they let Alba join, they all get the chance to pile in on Alba's presence, plans, any shambles they've made since launch (and there's a few - the ICO report of the breach, the failure to purchase all the domains, the amateur looking press conference).

It's a catch 22 situation.

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ResilienceWanker · 29/03/2021 11:18

Totally In The Thick Of It!

Someone on twitter has pointed out that constituency MSPs could potentially be elected under the SNP, but then defect to ALBA, which could mess things up a bit. I know the SNP are going with the "its a party for sex pests, racists and perjurers" line (as if the SNP is all sweetness and light...) but I would love to be a fly on the wall in their HQ at the moment, going mad trying to identify potential defectors among the ranks of their own candidates.

TheShadowyFeminist · 29/03/2021 11:20

@ATieLikeRichardGere

Some recent news seems to be: -Glasgow Councillor Michelle Ferns joins Alba -Alba won’t be in tomorrow’s leaders debate -Some ongoing stuff to do with the Alba data leak/hack

Very much The Thick of It

I keep thinking about The Thick Of It, Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister with some of a The New Statesmen thrown in (still miss Rik Mayall 😔).

Someone needs to write a Scottish version sitcom off the back of all this. Iannucci 🙏

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ResilienceWanker · 29/03/2021 11:23

I hadn't realised they weren't going to be in the debates. What's the rationale behind that? Is it just that the BBC doesn't have enough podia at short notice? Or the only standing on the list thing (which the greens are doing too, I think?) I agree it could backfire in many directions. I think They should have a right to defend themselves and their policies (policy?) but also answer to criticism.

OllyBJolly · 29/03/2021 11:30

You missed out Monty Python @TheShadowyFeminist....

TheShadowyFeminist · 29/03/2021 11:44

@OllyBJolly

You missed out Monty Python *@TheShadowyFeminist*....
Damn! 😁
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fandabbydoozy · 29/03/2021 11:45

I didn't realise leaders debates were going ahead. I assume this is virtual? Where and when can we see the debates?