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SNP supporters and the hate crime bill

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Ifyourefeelingsinister · 10/03/2021 20:52

Scottish government are passing a bill tonight that will give hate crime protection to every protected characteristic - apart from sex. Yes, women apparently don't register as far as hate crimes go.

But cross dressers will be protected so that's fine - don't insult a man in a kilt even in your own home, as you could be arrested. However, every day misogyny - that's fine.

SNP supporters - are you ok with this????

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littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 09:53

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Those organisations also opposed Johann Lamont’s amendment 28 to the Forensic Medical Services (Victims of Sexual Offences) (Scotland) Bill, which ensured that rape victims were able to choose the sex, not just the gender, of their medical examiner. Make no mistake—such positions are as ideological as they are absurd and they have nothing to do with protecting women. I am therefore proud to support Johann Lamont’s amendments today.

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 09:54

You can read the speech’s here
www.theyworkforyou.com/sp/?id=2021-03-10.22.0&s=prison

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 09:58

Yousaf also said during the debate that if a woman was mistaken for a trans woman and was attacked then she would be protected under the HCB bill

Can you believe the nonsense that he actually said that 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

GirlLovesWorld · 11/03/2021 10:12

Fucking hell, I'm close to chucking my laptop out the window Angry

anon444877 · 11/03/2021 10:28

Hate crime bill passed just a police find body possibly of young woman who disappeared on her way home. Nothing further to see on women's rights presumably. Gaaah.

WaxOnFeckOff · 11/03/2021 10:30

So, looking at the voting on the amendment - all SNP with the exception of Joan McAlpine, all greens with the exception of Andy wightman and all the lib dems voted No. All the tories, all labour, those names above and Mark McDonald voted for it.

I think we can see where all women should be voting.

LexMitior · 11/03/2021 10:34

@littlbrowndog

Yousaf also said during the debate that if a woman was mistaken for a trans woman and was attacked then she would be protected under the HCB bill

Can you believe the nonsense that he actually said that 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Well that’s true of course but it tells you that effectively a biological woman has, if assessed as such by another person, a lesser status in law than a person who assumes the status of “woman”.

I don’t know if you can call that a form of institutional misogyny? It would not be correct by a domestic violence bill either IMO

anon444877 · 11/03/2021 10:39

A modern version of a woman needing the backing of a man for her testimony?

Drive · 11/03/2021 11:56

Fired off a couple of brief emails - on calls so very brief

GirlLovesWorld · 11/03/2021 12:01

I got a reply from Murdo Fraser who is voting against.

WaxOnFeckOff · 11/03/2021 12:12

@GirlLovesWorld

I got a reply from Murdo Fraser who is voting against.
I did too. I've replied basically saying thank you and that I wont be voting for anyone supporting this.
GirlLovesWorld · 11/03/2021 12:20

Same!

GirlLovesWorld · 11/03/2021 13:32

Debate just started again.

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:41

Watching for a bit

Yousaf never once mentions the word woman in his list of crimes 🤦‍♀️

GirlLovesWorld · 11/03/2021 13:45

Nope. I'm sure he is the target of a lot of hate, that's why I can't understand his lack of empathy for women, demonstrably the most hated group in society.

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:46

This man seems fair

WouldBeGood · 11/03/2021 13:51

Humza Useless

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:52

Yay. The bill is a failure as no sex

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:54

Oh labour is supporting it

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 11/03/2021 13:55

@littlbrowndog

Oh labour is supporting it
What??
littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:56

Labour are supporting the bill

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 11/03/2021 13:57

Oh no! I'm going to have to reassess my voting intention.

GirlLovesWorld · 11/03/2021 13:57
Angry
littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:58

Libdems supporting

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2021 13:58

Finnie green misogyny party