Salmond v Sturgeon round 4. What next?

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Last poll I saw had greens down on seats - done think SNP ass kissing with a main agenda of wokery is going so well

I'd be tempted to vote green for the list if they didn't have such awful leadership and hadn't hounded out Andy Wightman. They need their own VONC in Patrick. I'm sure there are individually admirable green candidates.

The Greens are proper misogynistic and massive supporters of TWAW.
Doesn’t say much for their scientific credentials,

Wouldn't touch the Greens with a bargepole either due to their stance on women. If possible, they're worse than the SNP on this issue.

Update from Jim Sillars:

@TheShadowyFeminist

Sturgeon & Evans I get they don't want any notes being recorded (even if I think it's shady practice) but legal counsel? Really?

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It’s the SG that are obliged to keep minutes, not legal counsel. If the SG took or lost the minutes then there is no effective record. Which is what it looks like

@anon444877

I'd be tempted to vote green for the list if they didn't have such awful leadership and hadn't hounded out Andy Wightman. They need their own VONC in Patrick. I'm sure there are individually admirable green candidates.

Greens fancy themselves as the Kingmakers of the next Parliament, so they aren’t a fantastically good alternative to the SNP. They will move to bolster the SNP with concessions they want. You can already see the movement from them on this

I have no doubt there's a deal in the background, none at all.

Shady

Lex seems odd if Legal Counsel weren't taking their own notes? Of course someone would have to ask them rather and I'm not sure how "client confidentiality" would work then. Could of course ask JS to check with them - he would then be the client asking them to waive confidentiality?

typo *rather than JS

I'd expect both sides took notes but unless explicitly told to reveal them then they can't afaik.

Have we even seen a post meeting memo? Seems surprising there wouldn't be one

How enormously convenient for the SNP that the notes 'can't be found'!

Then again, is this notes can't be found because they have 'mysteriously' vanished, or notes can't be found in the same way notes that couldn't be found had to be pried out of the PS office under a commission & diligence search of her office?

50/50 on that I reckon.

Yes, they've mysteriously vanished in to the shredder

@Dinnafashyersel

Lex seems odd if Legal Counsel weren't taking their own notes? Of course someone would have to ask them rather and I'm not sure how "client confidentiality" would work then. Could of course ask JS to check with them - he would then be the client asking them to waive confidentiality?

Per se it isn’t odd - it wouldn’t be odd for a note not to be written if there wasn’t a legal point to deal with. Even then, your client might say that they didn’t want further legal advice in a written form. So not that suggestive, though the Scottish Government Lawyers should have recorded and made a note themselves. If that isn’t there, then that is odd...

I think purely from a public cost audit POV, the decisions made at key points in this process, which then led to the extraordinary outcome & excessive costs, should be noted & kept on record. I work in a private company, and it's just not feasible at all, under any circumstances, to make a decision on a litigated case & not have it recorded. It's just so alien to me I genuinely struggle to get the 🤷🏻‍♀️ response by Scotgov on this. Like "oops, sorry!" And we all move on? 🤨

I'd be sacked for this, under similar circumstances. Both the failure to keep accurate records, the piss poor decisions made & the horrifically expensive costs.

Just saw this, interesting.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/alex-salmond-inquiry-claim-by-new-witness-backs-former-first-ministers-evidence-3159878

The plot thickens

I don't think it was the wisest move to cast aspersions about GA who by all accounts is well respected by many, and highly regarded too. Nor the others, also highly regarded/well respected etc who verify what GA said after that discussion.

It doesn't seem entirely wise does it

How much do you think NS is loving Harry and Meghan right now? That's blown this mess fairly effectively off the news

The implausibility of no record is striking for these meetings but they would never have been disclosed in court if there had been written up if there was legal advice. So why no record?

Legal advice is confidential to the client- SG would never have expected to disclose it. I know some legal advice has been released in response to the enquiry, but that is different.

So what were these meetings about?

So what were these meetings about?

NS must be hoping for the best that they were discussing how brown or not H&Ms baby was going to be

Patrick Grady has stood aside as the SNP's chief whip while allegations of sexual assault are investigated.