Guilt Free Railing 3

[WouldBeGood]

Looks like railing is still needed.

Here is the judgment feee zone to do it.

@tiredoftiers

And so the effects of covid continues. If we have vaccinated and reduced clinical cases to an acceptable level, then why on earth do our young continue to bear the brunt of this? My first degree was very much a life experience, I wouldn’t have gained that from sitting at home signed into zoom.

Quite.

Isolation isn’t necessary when the vulnerable are vaccinated.

That should have said And isolating isn’t necessary when the vulnerable are vaccinated

@WaxOnFeckOff

yes, friends son is doing languages and has had a lot of good online contact and has had direct personal contact from some lecturers as they thought he looked as if he was struggling a bit with engagement. I think overall they have had a decent job in terms of the course and what they've offered and this is a much more social lad than either of my two, but he fought to get into this uni based on how he felt when he was there and really hasn't been able to step onto the campus since he started. It's such a shame. I'm not blaming the Uni's here, my DSs and friends DS are all doing well academically, just not the experience they would want.

The universities will be to be blame if they don't open as soon as they can though. If what the PP said is accurate, and I can see they've very sensibly had that comment deleted, then it's a bloody outrage.

I feel the treatment of students has been appalling. Unlike uni staff who could presumably have been partially furloughed and in some cases still employed to do research(??) or the majority of landlords who are financially well off enough to own more than one property, most students are in debt, have lost work and reduced chances of getting work now. But they are the ones who will have to shoulder the debt from the pandemic.

I know there's a problem with alternatives to charging students full fees and accommodation costs but it's sickening that the least financially able are taking the biggest hit.

I feel so much better today.

Mr G is allowed to go for a walk, so I'm going to join him. He's having a bit of an issue with the consultants underdogs over stepping the Mark. They said they would remove him from the IV meds. But the nurses say that he needs to be on them for the full 14 days. Today's cover consultant has said he's off to find out when the 14 days is and will be making sure that he's NOT removed from the IV before then.

He said the nurses had really told this underdog off a lot for wrong info and overstepping the Mark.

I'm feeling much better post vaccine. Have done a workout, collected the food shop, picked up compost for work as it's blooming Mother's Day next week and I suggested we plant sunflowers without thinking. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Anyway it's a beautiful spring day x

I don’t really understand either, as the schools are all going back full time, no SD after Easter as I understood it?

Oh and Dd was meant to go to Dundee to get work done but she won't go until she knows her dad is ok.

Oh, pleased to hear things are better today @Groovee!

I was meant to do a run on my treadmill but instead have eaten a giant bacon roll 😳

Tut tut @WouldBeGood .
I've been out for a run and am now luxuriating in last year's impulse buy chavvy sex pond , feeling peckish but couldn't be bothered getting out to shower. So nice that DH and Ddog are out on long walk soI can do nothing in peace.

Glad to hear you’re feeling better groove.

The 2m rule is stupid everywhere - even if distancing of this nature works it's unlikely to make a difference over long periods in classrooms. I think (?) the UK may be unique in every having had it. Most other places, including the WHO, had 1m+ if at all.

DH ended up sleeping away the afternoon yesterday but also feels better today. Regretting getting it done in his holidays now!

Glad both Groovees are on the mend.

Wouldbegood saying something is stupid is not railing, railing is expressing your emotions. So, I'm damn angry about how I'm expected to be back in school pre-vaccination seeing hundreds of children and with a full staff presence for three weeks before Easter, when this could have been staggered until after Easter.
That's not the same as saying people are kidding themselves if they believe that schools are safe places to be just now, which is what you are saying to me (in reverse). If you phrase it as a statement of fact of course people who disagree will argue back.
I can't argue with your emotions though.

This is a very balanced article on schools. Basic conclusion and very much paraphrasing. Schools are either safe or not and measures make very little difference. Discusses issues around testing strategy and masks before you even get to distancing.

My rail is that I'm done with my DC or anyone else's being used as pawns in a wider political game.

"The government insists the use of masks is "temporary and precautionary" - and will be reviewed at Easter. Or, in the words of one scientific adviser: "We know it's not going to make much difference, but if it helps us get schools back, it's worth the hassle when it's dropped.""

This is the wider UK context but all the same applies in Scotland with bells on.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56285179

Don't see distancing being a part of opening up strategy in England at all. Distancing in a Nightclub doesn't really work.

The kids, all of them, need back into school. Half a day a week is not enough.

There seems to be a lot of pish that children are resilient, and they'll bounce back, but where is the evidence to back that up?

How can we honestly say children will be ok. At no point in history have children been stopped from interacting with other children. At no point in history have parents ignored children to get on with their work.

I get we need to be careful but we need to take into account that the most vulnerable are vaccinated.

Sorry posted too soon and a bit spammy. Just to emphasise the point my student DD has friends comparing notes with friends and siblings South of the Border all planning their first night out. The idea that English students will be all out clubbing while Scottish ones will still be on-line in their bedrooms looks unsustainable beyond June at the latest.

@Dinnafashyersel
How long before the first entrepreneur hired the first bus to the Carlisle nightclubs?

[quote Dinnafashyersel]This is a very balanced article on schools. Basic conclusion and very much paraphrasing. Schools are either safe or not and measures make very little difference. Discusses issues around testing strategy and masks before you even get to distancing.

My rail is that I'm done with my DC or anyone else's being used as pawns in a wider political game.

"The government insists the use of masks is "temporary and precautionary" - and will be reviewed at Easter. Or, in the words of one scientific adviser: "We know it's not going to make much difference, but if it helps us get schools back, it's worth the hassle when it's dropped.""

This is the wider UK context but all the same applies in Scotland with bells on.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56285179[/quote]
I could be reading it wrong but if not, that article's incorrect. We've explicitly been told you must book a PCR test if positive on a lateral flow.

Useful graphic attached on keeping schools safe.

The lateral flow tests pick up 48 per cent of asymptomatic cases but shouldn't be used if one has covid symptoms.

I've not started using them yet as have only been in the hub but will need to get them shortly.

Which suggests they miss 52%?

What is the policy on isolating and close contacts while awaiting PCR confirmation Starryeye.

Lockdown. Even talk of an Unofficial Graduation Ceremony South of the Border since English Unis can host them but Scottish won't be able to as things stand.

I'd need to read the guidance again but it must be the same as if you have symptoms- out the class until PCR test result confirmed.

Which goes to the article's point that widespread lateral flow will inevitably lead to widespread sendings home.

@Dinnafashyersel

Which goes to the article's point that widespread lateral flow will inevitably lead to widespread sendings home.

I don't think it'll be a big amount of false positives and PCR tests are so quick also.

I frel the positive from the asymptomatic cases being caught before entering a classroom far outwith any impact from false positives.