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J&J - The no more Tiers formula...

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WaxOnFeckOff · 31/01/2021 19:35

Another new Fred...

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littlbrowndog · 01/02/2021 10:44

Yeah rookie. Just show us the plan

My bowl of sacrifices is full and overflowing now

Scottishskifun · 01/02/2021 10:53

Yep rookie I agree whilst I didn't disagree with Aberdeen getting a Aug lock down the refusal to introduce the same thing of do not leave your local authority to Glasgow when case rate became higher than Aberdeen for me showed the clincher of how voters impact decisions!

I don't want Glasgow to be lock down either but there is clearly some targeted work needed when Edinburgh is near the bottom and Glasgow is at the top. Yes it's more populated but Edinburgh also has poverty areas and tenements.

LetItGoGo · 01/02/2021 10:55

I'm at a loss with my teenager. I cannot get them out of doors. Scouts was the best for that tbh.

Iwillneverbesatisfied · 01/02/2021 10:56

I've never been good when it came to understanding pensions. Is it likely to get better or worse thanks to Brexit?

LetItGoGo · 01/02/2021 10:56

My random note of despair!

Anyway on the positive side it's February and the snowdrops are out.

LetItGoGo · 01/02/2021 10:59

Pension comparison is not so easy.

Pension ages were amazing in Greece and France but unsustainable.

My parents were among the poorest pensioners who benefitted a lot under Gordon Brown but that's not the same for people with private pensions.

We seem to have a very complex benefits system full stop.

ssd · 01/02/2021 11:05

Oh I'd love to see a snowdrop.

Lockdownbear · 01/02/2021 11:05

@StarryEyeSurprise

Going back to pensions...
Shock I didn't think our pensions were that low.

How can other countries afford such high sums? I'm guessing part of it is pay more tax. But then the UK has pushed private pensions rather than everyone relying on state provision.

reprehensibleme · 01/02/2021 11:08

StarryEyeSurprise, where are those pension figures from? Eurostat paints a very different picture.
ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Ageing_Europe_-_statistics_on_pensions,_income_and_expenditure

Dinnafashyersel · 01/02/2021 11:15

I don't actually think they'll be a return to teirs. It seemed a good idea, probably copied from a country with spread out population, that just didn't really work in the central belt. It is far too interlinked but they couldn't abandon it completely hence ignoring the levels that they set out.

Agree.

Australia locked down the whole of Perth for a week due to one asymptomatic case yesterday.

On pensions. The data I posted on previous thread shows the intersection of housing benefit with other working age benefits. There is a big area with no overlap. A large proportion of this is pensioners in receipt of housing benefit. The international comparisons also tend to discount the means tested top ups which rightly or wrongly the UK system has increasingly moved towards.

LetitGoGo my teen leaves the house because it is the one opportunity she gets to have space alone with her own thoughts. If I think she could do with a walk I have been known to make a nuisance of myself and nag about chores and Uni work.

WaxOnFeckOff · 01/02/2021 11:18

I posted a graphic earlier about pensions across the world. Yes, a lot of the pensions posted as being top on that list in terms of payout rank very low in other factors particularly sustainability.

It's very complex but at the heart of it is that people in poverty are not in a position to pay into pensions however they are the ones that are least likely to be affected by the lower level they are set at having been used to a limited income.

I've worked and paid into private pensions my whole life and am lucky that I've had the opportunity to do so. However the final salary type schemes I started on have been reduced in type and employer contributions rapidly over the last 10 or so years to the point where its hardly worth my while contributing anymore as there isn't time for it to grow very much and growth rates are so low.

Anyway, I'm not an expert and I don't know the answer but if we want to pay out more, the money needs to come from somewhere.

The message is is that it's important for DC to prioritise their pension when they are young. When you are elderly, there is virtually nothing you can do to change your economic situation. You can't just go and get a better paying job or extra work. What you have is what you have.

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anon444877 · 01/02/2021 11:19

And of course, UK average wages won't be at the bottom of the chart will they? But as long as a chart can be found with the UK on the bottom...pension analysis is complex.

If you're talking about poverty, pensioner poverty has fallen more than other age groups.

Coquohvan · 01/02/2021 11:29

Re vaccines, I think they’ve got their eye on next winter where vaccines will be needed again. Over buying now means we have supplies for winter coming. What I’m seeing is it’s to be like the flu jab, tweeked every year by the previous years strain/s. Hopefully when things calm down, there will be a big push to vax the worlds poorer smaller nations.

We are also one of the highest contributor to Covax.

ssd · 01/02/2021 11:32

Has anyone heard when CEV 20 yr olds are getting the vaccine in Glasgow?
The slow pace isn't funny now. I've supported this government up till now but seeing how fast the vaccine is going in England compared to us is terrible. In England over 70s can book online, it's looking brilliant there.

WouldBeGood · 01/02/2021 11:34

@ssd yes, it’s a bit disappointing. I was quite pleased with them doing the care homes first, but it’s not impressive now.

Dinnafashyersel · 01/02/2021 11:44

The message is is that it's important for DC to prioritise their pension when they are young. When you are elderly, there is virtually nothing you can do to change your economic situation. You can't just go and get a better paying job or extra work. What you have is what you have.

Agree with this, but would also recommend building up a cushion of accessible savings. A pension pot isn't much help if you need to bail yourself out in your 40s.

We ended up on Britannica.com this morning for HEd. Highly recommend for fellow owners of 8-10 year olds.

Following on from the AZ fracas saw an announcement on twitter yesterday about UK production which should be in a position to export Globally in a couple of months - supply issues look to be short term.

Agree it looks very much like vaccine will be like the flu jab (new strains, data on low level infection post vax). Hard to see how this doesn't neuter the debate around zero Covid and maximum suppression to elimination and even vaccine passports etc.

Jodri · 01/02/2021 11:47

Speaking of snowdrops and the joy that they bring me when I see them emerging from the winter ground... I was delighted they have the most lovely scent. It’s not strong but delicate and just adds to the hope they bring.

Coquohvan · 01/02/2021 11:53

Following on from the AZ fracas saw an announcement on twitter yesterday about UK production which should be in a position to export Globally in a couple of months - supply issues look to be short term.

Saw this article on another thread. Fair is fair when good things happen. Fair play to him for this.
apple.news/AReuXV1zPT5eBCuDB2TNueg

Coquohvan · 01/02/2021 12:29

@ssd my daughter is CEV over 18 to be in the 70+ group. She got a text a week ago from her gp saying they will be in touch this month Feb. It will probably get done at her gp rather than a large hub.
Have you looked on the calculator. Hers comes out at 6-21/2

www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

WaxOnFeckOff · 01/02/2021 12:35

There's a different Scottish version of the calculator

www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-scotland

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WaxOnFeckOff · 01/02/2021 12:38

And I know its daily fail but...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9207927/Deadly-toll-scrapped-cancer-surgery-revealed.html

It's public health England figures, but no reason to think that we'll be any different.

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Coquohvan · 01/02/2021 12:42

Apologies She’s in England. Done the Scottish version over the last seven days comes out at 23/2-24/4 wow.

WaxOnFeckOff · 01/02/2021 12:49

Sorry, I didn't realise she wasn't in Scotland, just didn't want folks looking at something unrepresentative. The calculator adjusts all the time, I was due Dec to Jan 22 earlier but have now changed to latter half of May 21.

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shouldistop · 01/02/2021 12:54

Apparently I'll be offered mine around august. I'm not too fussed about myself being vaccinated, I'm only in my 30s and no health conditions plus breastfeeding just now so might not be allowed it?
It would be nice to see my mum & step dad vaccinated as they're in their 60s. My friend lost her dad to Covid recently and another friends parents are in hospital at the moment so that does play on my mind a bit.
My dh gran has now been vaccinated so we're pleased about that Smile

RaspberryCoulis · 01/02/2021 12:58

848 new cases - last Monday it was 1429 and the week before it was 1782.

All that guff she wittered on about today - i'm going to tell you what i'm going to tell you in the briefing, but i'm not going to tell you until tomorrow - what a fucking waste of time.

And totally dodging the questions about why our vaccine roll out is sooooo sloooooow.