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J&J - The no more Tiers formula...

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WaxOnFeckOff · 31/01/2021 19:35

Another new Fred...

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MaxNormal · 03/02/2021 00:41

Oh and I got indigestion! Which I never normally have.

titsbumfannythelot · 03/02/2021 07:13

@ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown

I'm in the camp of thinking I had Covid back just before the first lockdown, no test obviously. But I've had an antibody test and it was negative. I know that could mean the antibodies had just reduced but seems more likely it wasn't Covid I had after all.
Not necessarily. T cells are important in fighting Covid too, I'm not sure if they show up on an antibody test. Professor Sikora has been talking about this on Twitter for a while, it's worth a read if you haven't already.
Dinnafashyersel · 03/02/2021 07:37

Loss of taste and smell seems to be the most common denominator in people I know who have had confirmed Covid. However this has happened to me since childhood any time I have been ill enough to affect my digestion. I don't think it can be relied on as confirmation. (I was that complete pain who had to be coaxed to eat anything to aid my recovery-much worse as an adult having to self-coax).

jabbathebutt · 03/02/2021 07:47

I got the flu jag last christmas (vulnerable) so I hope that helped me a bit although despite being vulnerable, I'm not CEV so I think I'll be in the same age group (40s) as others of that age.

I wonder what further restrictions, if any, will be introduced in 2 weeks time? if we are coming out of lockdown, will there be new conditions, like masks outside and stuff? How long will mask wearing continue anyway? I can't see it changing, or social distancing, this year and that will surely impact our working lives and social lives.

WouldBeGood · 03/02/2021 08:26

@jabbathebutt surely there will be no need for more measures, as once the vulnerable are jagged there won’t be the same need to stop spread?

The sooner the masks go the better!

jabbathebutt · 03/02/2021 08:35

some of the SAGE experts are being cautious though, I recall reading something that said SD measures will be here all year. Also, no travel abroad either (so no foreign holidays)

RaspberryCoulis · 03/02/2021 08:40

Really good news that studies seem to indicate that not only does the AstraZeneca vaccine stop you getting really ill that it stops transmission too. That seems to be the main vaccine which they are using in GP practices, it's the one my parents got yesterday.

If that's proven, then once you have the vulnerable vaccinated - even with just a first dose - then there is ZERO justification for continuing strong restrictions.

One point which bothered me a little was that mum and dad weren't told to return in 12 weeks to get a second dose. The nurse told them she didn't know what was happening, they didn't get an appointment to return, and the nurse said it might be at another location entirely. Doesn't seem particularly organised....

Jason Leitch on telly this morning banging on about their quarantine ideas.

RaspberryCoulis · 03/02/2021 08:44

Oh and on schools - he's just said little by little, gradually, 3 weeks at a time. So 3 weeks from 22nd Feb is 15th March, potentially something further for S4/5/6 and P7 then.

My S1 is most definitely waiting until after the Easter holidays by the looks of it, what a pile of shit. In the school year from Easter to Easter he was in school for a bit of August, September, bit of October (minus holidays), November, bit of December.

No school April, May, June, January, February, March.

jabbathebutt · 03/02/2021 08:56

Easter is April isn't it? might as well not bother bringing them back at all for all the education they are likely to get!

Lockdownbear · 03/02/2021 08:57

Its rotten that kids are missing so much. Basically one term in a year.

I know they can't do much about the virus my big gripe is the lack of communication. I've never had to read so much between the lines. They must have known at Christmas time that it was unlikely that all school years would be back before Easter.
Give people the big picture and let them make decisions, re bubbles, investing in equipment, what to do with work etc.
Stop stringing people along.

anon444877 · 03/02/2021 09:14

My main reservation is that they're expecting the education juggernaut, teaching staff to continuously adapt and keep going with all these massive changes and there's still no plan to help the kids that will have lost out terribly over the last year.

But otoh, 19 more days til feb 22....

Waverless · 03/02/2021 09:18

Lockdownbear, exactly - they must have a plan. If we've no hope of getting p4s and up back to school before Easter then LET US KNOW!

jabbathebutt · 03/02/2021 09:18

I was reading BBC news about WHO thresholds. We aren't there yet. So we may be in lockdown for a while yet, or at least a return to the tiers.

Where did JL say 3 weeks at a time? Does he mean early years first, then in 3 weeks time, senior years? then the rest after that?

NotAnActualSheep · 03/02/2021 09:21

@RaspberryCoulis

Oh and on schools - he's just said little by little, gradually, 3 weeks at a time. So 3 weeks from 22nd Feb is 15th March, potentially something further for S4/5/6 and P7 then.

My S1 is most definitely waiting until after the Easter holidays by the looks of it, what a pile of shit. In the school year from Easter to Easter he was in school for a bit of August, September, bit of October (minus holidays), November, bit of December.

No school April, May, June, January, February, March.

Whaaaaat?! Oh for goodness sake. Why so slow?! Sad At least once a week someone on DSs class call (P5) asks the teachers when they'll be back at school. They all sound so sad. I know other years are "more important" but that really doesn't help them or make them feel valued or that their learning is vital too.

Online learning really doesn't seem to be working for so many (judging by the comments on the call and in the chat outside of that)... No suitable device to get the work, dodgy Internet, no printer, no paper to print on, no time for parents to help with work.... And in terms of maths and literacy, the work they are doing is revision of stuff they did in P3, because the teachers just don't have the capacity to teach anything substantially new to such a wide range of abilities and with such variable resources (they did angles, but said they wouldn't bother about measuring them with protractors etc til they were back at school...surely that's quite an important and reasonably tricky skill but something that 9/ 10 year olds should be doing? We ended up digging out my old protractor and doing it anyway Grin) I really really worry how so many children are going to come back from this.

NotAnActualSheep · 03/02/2021 09:24

But hey, today we're looking at arguments for and against Scottish independence, so no need to be able to measure angles for that.

MaxNormal · 03/02/2021 09:24

@RaspberryCoulis what was JL saying about quarantine?

RaspberryCoulis · 03/02/2021 09:24

@jabbathebutt

I was reading BBC news about WHO thresholds. We aren't there yet. So we may be in lockdown for a while yet, or at least a return to the tiers.

Where did JL say 3 weeks at a time? Does he mean early years first, then in 3 weeks time, senior years? then the rest after that?

He was interviewed on BBC Breakfast. Explained that preschool and P1-3 would be back on 22nd Feb. Then said that the plan was to get the rest of the years back "very gradually" and they were assessing "three weeks at a time".

To be fair, the most surprising thing he said was that there IS a plan.

RaspberryCoulis · 03/02/2021 09:26

On quarantine - he was asked about the practicalities of what would happen with someone flying into Manchester, who lives in Stirling.

He said they're still working on it.... Hmm Lots of guff about how we would have eliminated the virus in the summer if we hadn't gone and imported those nasty english foreign variants.

MaxNormal · 03/02/2021 09:29

Twat. DH has to travel for work and he's freelance, so what that will do is make his English counterparts a far more attractive prospect for jobs.
So that's nice.

MaxNormal · 03/02/2021 09:30

Eliminated? In the UK? Hilarious Hmm

RaspberryCoulis · 03/02/2021 09:32

@MaxNormal

Eliminated? In the UK? Hilarious Hmm
No no no, @MaxNormal. Eliminated in SCOTLAND. Who cares if the rest of them are all plague-ridden. All that matters is SCOTLAND.

Seal the borders - forever - keep the manky buggers out. Even if those manky buggers are people you're related to. Why on earth would anyone ever want to leave the SNP paradise which is Scotland anyway? Hmm

titsbumfannythelot · 03/02/2021 09:38

Ffs, JL's specialism is health not foreign policy.

Elimination my arse.

RaspberryCoulis · 03/02/2021 09:40

@titsbumfannythelot if his critics are to be believed, Jason Leitch's specialism is dentistry, not infectious diseases or epidemiology.

titsbumfannythelot · 03/02/2021 09:42

I know, had to stop myself short of saying something mean there. A rarity theses days.

Dinnafashyersel · 03/02/2021 09:45

NotAnActualSheep snap! DD3 got a compass set from Santa. We entertained ourselves for ages playing with it. You forget how much manual dexterity is involved in holding the point consistently and not shifting the arms mid draw. Also loads of hints like using your ruler to make guide points etc etc.

She was ecstatic yesterday when I told her they were starting to get children back. Outwardly you wouldn't be able to tell how much impact it is having because she is fairly stoic. It is only obvious when you offer the light at the end of the tunnel.

Max I have loads of friends who travel to rest of UK for work (would be much easier to get plumbers and electricians if the didn't). Befuddled that some people believe the hogwash about cross border UK travel. However I think you will find that manky is a protected characteristic of the proud citizens of Greater Glasgow. You just can't go around awarding it as a badge of honour indiscriminately. (see also clarty and scunnered with pure for added authenticity).