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WouldBeGood · 02/02/2021 22:05

That’s very very rare though

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/02/2021 22:07

I've sort of lost track with all the different vaccines now. I had a completely non life threatening but pretty unpleasant reaction to penicillin recently, is that a reason for needing any particular variety? Anyone more up on what's what?

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kurtrussellsbeard · 02/02/2021 22:07

Yes @WouldBeGood thankfully it is but it still makes things very frightening. So, like you say, they can jag me with anything!

Dinnafashyersel · 02/02/2021 22:08

Unpaid carers are entitled to a flu vaccine so if you normally get an invite for that I assume it will be the same register. If you don't then the process is to notify your GP of your caring responsibilities - should be info either on your practice website etc. The DWP and NHS systems are not joined up (due to privacy concerns).

kurtrussellsbeard · 02/02/2021 22:08

I think it's the Pfizer that's not good with allergies.

littlbrowndog · 02/02/2021 22:09

Wouldbegood. Thinking bout you and your boy

Just realised 3 more weeks of toddler hell

Some days I don’t even know what day it is

But lucky my work are much the same.

Local government

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/02/2021 22:11

Thanks kurt that's what I thought. I've never really had any allergies before and although i'm in my 50s, I haven't had any antibiotics since I was a child. I've always therefore answered the question about allergies as NO - who knew? :o

I don't think we'll get a choice I guess so will just have to play it by ear.

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kurtrussellsbeard · 02/02/2021 22:13

Yeah I think we'll mostly end up with AZ or that new one that's made here as well. I think that's what we have most of but I'm not 100%. I think especially given AZ is pretty effective (against severe disease and death anyway) with even one dose.

ladylunchalot · 02/02/2021 22:15

@WaxOnFeckOff Pfizer updated their guidelines to say it's only not suitable if you are allergic to any of the vaccine ingredients. Penicillin is not in Pfizer.

I had the Pfizer vaccine last month and I'm allergic to Penicillin. I did feel like crap after it and had sore swollen glands for a fortnight but no anaphylactic reaction.

I know the NHS still haven't updated our staff site for booking vaccines with this info - it's even on the UK gov website so I based my decision on that. I was asked at my appointment if I was allergic to anything but I just said I wasn't allergic to the vaccine ingredients, not a lie.

Sootess · 02/02/2021 22:20

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/02/2021 22:21

Thanks @ladylunchalot, sorry to hear you were not well.

I'm not in any risk groups and 90 odd % sure I had covid in March so I'm happy to wait, I'd hope that getting those who are at greater risk brings down the numbers quickly and we can get things opening up.

However given that most of the "cases" are in the working age population, I'm not holding my breath. Surely the real issues of hospitalisation because of covid including icu and deaths should really be helped because of the roll out and they'll look at those numbers rathe than the positive cases.

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MissEliza · 02/02/2021 22:21

@MaxNormal no worries! The fact that some people can't have the vaccination makes me more cross at the people who won't. It's a privilege. In addition to those like you, there are vulnerable people all over the world desperate for it.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/02/2021 22:23

Thanks @Sootess. I suppose it was just a surprise finding out I'm allergic and now wondering what else I'm potentially allergic to that I have no knowledge of because I've luckily been healthy this far.

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ladylunchalot · 02/02/2021 22:25

@WaxOnFeckOff I was delighted to get it - our Service Manager virtually ordered me to get it (in a nice way) as everyone in our office caught Covid in December. I'm the only one not to have caught it although I wonder if I was maybe asymptomatic?? I've heard a few people say they were ill after the vaccine if they'd already had Covid.

MissEliza · 02/02/2021 22:27

@kurtrussellsbeard that's shocking. I remember early on there was a lot of talk about 'only' (as if that was ok) people with underlying conditions being at risk, but this time round, I feel I've personally heard of several healthy younger people being severely affected. My ds's friend's dad died last week and he was 50 and apparently as fit as a fiddle. It's scary.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/02/2021 22:34

[quote ladylunchalot]@WaxOnFeckOff I was delighted to get it - our Service Manager virtually ordered me to get it (in a nice way) as everyone in our office caught Covid in December. I'm the only one not to have caught it although I wonder if I was maybe asymptomatic?? I've heard a few people say they were ill after the vaccine if they'd already had Covid.[/quote]
This is why DH and I would like to have antibody tests as we weren't able to get tested in March. I had a severe headache/migraine, an intermittent fever, sore eyes, very tired, tight chest and a dry cough that I had for over a month but after the headache went, I wasn't that ill. DH had less symptoms than me.

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Peppafrig · 02/02/2021 22:35

@Dinnafashyersel

Unpaid carers are entitled to a flu vaccine so if you normally get an invite for that I assume it will be the same register. If you don't then the process is to notify your GP of your caring responsibilities - should be info either on your practice website etc. The DWP and NHS systems are not joined up (due to privacy concerns).

Thanks Dinna guess carers allowance entitlement isn’t enough I assumed the gov would have accces to DWP. The government should make it clear all unpaid carers need to contact their GP

ladylunchalot · 02/02/2021 22:40

@WaxOnFeckOff I think lots of people must have had it early last year as they were only testing in hospitals so loads will have been missed.
Just last week the community nurses I work with are finally getting routinely testing - farcical how long it's taken.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/02/2021 22:47

[quote ladylunchalot]@WaxOnFeckOff I think lots of people must have had it early last year as they were only testing in hospitals so loads will have been missed.
Just last week the community nurses I work with are finally getting routinely testing - farcical how long it's taken.[/quote]
Yes, DH is SAS and he's only been doing his routine testing for a few weeks. Given how fast it was spreading in March, I agree loads must have had it then. We were in the office and obviously not distancing at all but cleaners going round wiping down door handles and we were using hand sanitiser. There was a confirmed case (person was in hospital) a couple of desks away from me, quite a few folk had been over skiing in Italy etc.

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AgentCooper · 02/02/2021 22:51

It’s such a strange virus. I’ll admit, over summer I was struggling with my mental health so much that I didn’t care if I got it or not because I thought whatever it’s like it’ll be nothing compared to how I’m feeling now.

But when I did get it in December, well I wouldn’t want to catch it again. I was mostly fine but the taste and smell business messed with my head. Obviously nothing compared to being seriously ill but I kept thinking what if it never comes back or takes years? What if I’ve smelled my 3 year old’s head for the last time and didn’t know it? My senses came back in less than a week, but DH still doesn’t have his properly. He can smell my strong perfume and similar smells but very little else. Which is handy, as he can’t smell when the wee one’s done a big shite. More than anything though, I was petrified for my parents. Both very healthy, mid-60s, no hospitalisation but my poor dad couldn’t get out of bed. He wasn’t himself at all on Christmas Day, he could barely stay awake. And I was terrified that this was the start of it getting worse or he’d be stuck with long Covid and his life as he knew it was over. And the tremendous guilt that they got it through looking after DS, because we found out too late that FIL had tested positive and DH had been spending days and nights with him in hospital as he wasn’t expected to last more than a few days (he lasted two weeks more).

The fact that you just don’t know how it’s going to pan out, that’s the scary thing.

WouldBeGood · 02/02/2021 23:01

We know it pans out just fine for the huge huge majority of those infected, even if they’re very old or have underlying conditions. The death rate is very low.

I don’t want it like I don’t want any nasty bug. I had a horrible one two years ago where I couldn’t get out of bed for a week and wasn’t fully recovered for a couple of months. Just one of these things.

StatisticallyChallenged · 02/02/2021 23:03

Which is handy, as he can’t smell when the wee one’s done a big shite

Nappy duty for him then!

titsbumfannythelot · 02/02/2021 23:06

@StatisticallyChallenged

Which is handy, as he can’t smell when the wee one’s done a big shite

Nappy duty for him then!

ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown · 02/02/2021 23:16

I'm in the camp of thinking I had Covid back just before the first lockdown, no test obviously. But I've had an antibody test and it was negative. I know that could mean the antibodies had just reduced but seems more likely it wasn't Covid I had after all.

MaxNormal · 03/02/2021 00:40

@WaxOnFeckOff I had very similar symptoms in March, minus the headache and I had chest pains, breathlessness and briefly lost my sense of smell. When it came back everything kept smelling of bleach!
I wasn't particularly ill.

DH was a bit worse and his cough sounded like the covid cough YouTube clips but again not seriously ill.

Weirdly I was delighted to lose my sense of smell for a bit as its normally insanely oversensitive so that was a nice break.