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I get locked down. Tiers go up again.

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Cismyfatarse · 25/01/2021 16:55

New Fred.

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anon444877 · 31/01/2021 11:29

Whizzing anywhere would be nice....glad mr grovee is improving. Oh goodness can you imagine if it's announced no holidays anywhere, social distancing in place the rest of the year...I expect that's what we are looking at though with the time to two doses before next winter.

Groovee · 31/01/2021 11:35

The only good thing about no travelling all year is those annoying family members can't randomly turn up...

Dinnafashyersel · 31/01/2021 11:35

Just catching up.

It was self-reported healthy life. So somewhat inevitable that you feel healthier when you can use your wealth to mitigate concerns. Also the case that health is a huge driver of poverty more so than the other way round-ie people are poor because they are sick rather than poverty causing sickness.

To illustrate the largest overlap in the benefits system is people claiming housing benefit in conjunction with disability benefits (not feckless single mothers as often touted).

www.gov.uk/government/publications/dwp-benefits-statistics-february-2020/dwp-benefits-statistical-summary-february-2020

Dinnafashyersel · 31/01/2021 11:54

Interesting thoughts on the Border. The comparison with Ireland is interesting. One of the reasons the UK/EU opted for the Irish Sea rather than the land border is because the Island of Ireland was and will continue to be treated as a single regulatory zone for agriculture.

The Art 16 debacle has highlighted that this is envisaged to apply more widely to infection control and food and drug regulation going forward. If we had Covid in a couple of years time the UK could have been in the position of having to negotiate with the EU to supply vaccine to its citizens in NI because the EMA had not authorised the vaccine and the UK had. I suspect there will be some nuancing of this across the Border now. The first play is the UK offering to supply Ireland as a priority once we have any spare (Liz Truss on Marr this morning).

Re-imagining Scotland and England as separate regulatory zones looks like a complete non-starter and to do otherwise would make Scotland joining the EU near impossible.

Not so concerned about freight as Scotland uses airfreight more than you would think and the cost difference is not huge (similar to me having very little use for the Channel Tunnel if I want a weekend in Paris). Most whisky is by air.

More concerned about food security but again having lived in London and Scotland (with family all over the South East) it is very noticeable that supermarkets have completely different produce supply chains. Scotland is not really reliant on cross channel supply at all but sometimes if its on a lorry anyway it makes sense to share with England. (I went through a phase of checking every time I went to Sainsburys post Brexit and the DC are now on first name terms with all the Fife fruit growers).

Agree on the Freedom of Movement Issues. Everyone is politely pretending the special CTA arrangements for Ireland don't have the potential to act as a UK backdoor but they do and adding Scotland may well be incendiary.

WaxOnFeckOff · 31/01/2021 12:40

Article about the trans issue re SNP stolen from another thread

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alex-massie-sturgeons-trans-action-puts-her-credit-at-risk-0qvd2jk3d

Dinnafashyersel · 31/01/2021 12:55

Ian Blackford in the press this morning moaning how much all the Covid Deaths are costing his funeral prepayment plan business.

Follows hot on the heels of Angus Robertson suggesting elderly deaths bolster case for Indy.

Coming back to Trans issues not long since Alyn Smith in the press for suggesting "minorities" should all be lumped in together to shut them up a bit. I use inverted commas because "minorities" covers women who are a majority in Scotland and the World at large.

Almost like pandering to special interests and sewing division all over the place causes PR potholes.

Only read the first bit of the Herald article. Interesting as I hadn't been following that it had actually all blown up again because Humza had been attempting to defuse the issues with his Hate Speech Bill and appears to have managed to reignite both sides.

StatisticallyChallenged · 31/01/2021 12:58

Brexit does bring home the complexities of separating a union - which would be even more complex for a UK split. It's weird enough that I could now need a visa to do work in Europe (I have a lot of EU clients), the thought of a similar situation for London is nuts. We are just so interconnected.

StarryEyeSurprise · 31/01/2021 12:59

That's shocking. Can you share the links to Blackford and Robertson saying that?

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:00

@StatisticallyChallenged

Brexit does bring home the complexities of separating a union - which would be even more complex for a UK split. It's weird enough that I could now need a visa to do work in Europe (I have a lot of EU clients), the thought of a similar situation for London is nuts. We are just so interconnected.
I think this is why it’s just unworkable.

Nice idea for some, but wholly impractical for so many reasons.

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:01

@Dinnafashyersel oh my god, politicians of all hues are really a breed apart, aren’t they? Awful

kurtrussellsbeard · 31/01/2021 13:02

That is disgusting about Blackford and Robertson. I would also like to see the links to that. I couldn't find anything on google but I'm not very good with it if I'm being honest.

Iwillneverbesatisfied · 31/01/2021 13:03

Its all so worrying. Brexit was popular until people realized what they wouldn't be able to do anymore. And it will be the same with IndyRef. Far too late to change anything.

(although Brexit has clearly helped re: the vaccine roll out)

StarryEyeSurprise · 31/01/2021 13:04

I just had a search too but can't find anything..

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:04

The tweet was deleted but here it is Angus Robertson in September

I get locked down. Tiers go up again.
WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:05

I found it by googling, link to Monica Lennon on Twitter then it’s there

kurtrussellsbeard · 31/01/2021 13:06

So Blackford tweeted that he was annoyed that he was losing money through prepaid funeral plans then deleted it? Or this tweet was deleted?

kurtrussellsbeard · 31/01/2021 13:08

I mean to be fair that's the National's very poorly worded tweet. It also true. The momentum if you look at age breakdown is only going one way.

The National should never have presented it like that but I can't see it Robertson's fault.

WaxOnFeckOff · 31/01/2021 13:10

[quote WouldBeGood]@Dinnafashyersel oh my god, politicians of all hues are really a breed apart, aren’t they? Awful[/quote]
yes they are but all the ones mentioned are SNP.

kurtrussellsbeard · 31/01/2021 13:11

I would be very keen to find the evidence for Blackford saying this. I can't find it anywhere and if true it's absolutely appalling. I've googled, I've looked for Monica Lennon on Twitter. Nothing.

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:11

Here’s what’s on Twitter re the Blackford thing

I get locked down. Tiers go up again.
WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:12

@kurtrussellsbeard I think it was very poor timing to be pontificating about old people dying, and that being good for your cause, in the middle of a pandemic which kills old people.

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:15

These are @WaxOnFeckOff, but could you name an honourable, principled one from anywhere?

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:16

Interestingly, this also led me to discover that Blackford’s business is registered in filthy England

kurtrussellsbeard · 31/01/2021 13:21

Thanks @WouldBeGood I found it as a result of your screenshot. It looks to me like the Fail have twisted his analysis of his accounts to look like he's moaning. Be interested to see his comeback is but it's hardly what I was expecting. Covid and covid deaths will impact business in certain ways and that will have to be mentioned / explained to stakeholders. Can't really get worked up about it tbh.

He wasn't pontificating. It's a fact. The lower you go in age, the more support their is for Indy. The older you go, the less support. Thousands of no voters have died since 2014.

WaxOnFeckOff · 31/01/2021 13:26

@WouldBeGood

These are *@WaxOnFeckOff*, but could you name an honourable, principled one from anywhere?
I'd be hard pushed but some are worse than others! I'm sure there are plenty to be honest but they are probably quietly working away in the background trying to represent their constituents. It's only when heads peek over the parapet that we find out all the shite.
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