If the SNP win a referendum on Scottish independence, what do you think the criteria will be for moving there and getting a Scottish passport?

[Kendodd]

I'm English, live in England but love Scotland. If they became independent I would definitely want to move there if at all possible (if they let me). What do you think the rules would be for moving there and citizenship?

Hating the English - well it wasn't necessarily the English who were the baddies. Most battles were to do with religion - Catholic highlanders fought against SScotland Protestants (Covenanters) for example. Our history is v complex.

I wonder if this nightmare ever comes to pass if I will be able to keep my British passport. I don't want a Scottish passport and would greatly resent having a Scottish nationality foisted on to me.

[quote Elvesaremagic]Gladly back up with numbers. Scottish government’s own stats - GERS. 2019-20 revenue per person £12,058, expenditure £14,829. www.gov.scot/publications/government-expenditure-revenue-scotland-gers-2019-20/[/quote]
Just bumping this for it's common sense and facts

Anti English sentiment isn't racist as it is directed at people from a country and doesn't identify them as a racial group

Oh dear. You really are wrong there. The law says otherwise.

They won't win. Too much to lose.

Scotland appeals greatly, such a majestic landscape, however rather let down by the appalling anti English sentiment I’ve encountered on holiday there. Have to remind myself not to even consider going back when I start thinking of it.

Have been to Edinburgh several times and found people lovely though, perhaps it’s more cosmopolitan.

I hope they get their independence if it’s what they want. Most English people aren’t bothered. I’ll be glad not to tune into question time and find it’s from Scotland and full of Scottish issues.

You don't "do Scots" if it's your own language, which for most Scottish children it is.

What absolute pish.

Hahahaha, I just realised that the poster giving away my sex-based rights is the same poster posting the positively Trumpian ‘if you don’t like it go back to where you came from’.

That must be confusing.

Again, racism includes treating someone detrimentally because of their nationality or national origin. From the Equality Act:
Race
(1)Race includes—
(a)colour;
(b)nationality;
(c)ethnic or national origins.

@slitheringsnakes

Again, racism includes treating someone detrimentally because of their nationality or national origin. From the Equality Act: Race (1)Race includes— (a)colour; (b)nationality; (c)ethnic or national origins.

That proves that your "you can't be racist about English people" comment is wrong even if you can't see it.

www.socresonline.org.uk/9/2/mcintosh.html

The only certain thing about any future referendum is that Scots living outside Scotland will not get a vote.

@StarryEyeSurprise

Actually, Scotland's already seeing a big influx from down south. It's normal so I wouldn't worry about anti English sentiment * we know you're likely to despise Johnson as much as we do. I wouldn't go for the places you've mentioned. Just come up on a holiday pnce allowed. EvelynBeatrice- less than half pay tax?! Biggest pile of nonsense I've ever heard!

So how many people do you think pay tax in Scotland?

Had a wee look :

4.5 million adults in Scotland 2019/20
2.5 million pay tax
Around 2 million adults or 44.6% will not pay income tax as they earn less than personal allowance .

Scotgov figures

Yeah you missed my later comment. Scotland 's the same as the UK - 43 per cent don't pay tax in the UK.

The SNP need to be honest with voters about Scotland’s £15 billion deficit, the collapsed oil price, and the massive subsidy from England that pays for the furlough scheme during the pandemic. And the fact that their deficit is three times higher than the EU permitted maximum for new members.
Not to mention the fact that every major Scottish bank and finance company would have to move their registration to London, as Scotland can’t afford to underwrite them as lender of last resort, without the Bank of England’s cash reserves. Scotland will lose their share of all the corporation tax.
You never hear Sturgeon admitting the massive financial loss an independent Scotland would face. She just appeals to the lowest instincts of “us and them” nationalist division.

I’ve lived in Scotland for the past 45 years and find the rise of nationalist poison sickening,

For those in Scotland -

On the back on @Babdoc post

After the experience of the Brexit referendum with the subsequent accusations of lies, broken promises, aggressive tactics and there being no details .... how much detailed explanation of the pros of independence, cons of remaining and opposition from labour and conservatives are you expecting ?

And will the free University Education continue , free prescriptions and old age care ? If people move here for above they’d better check they will still be free with independence.

@Babdoc

The SNP need to be honest with voters about Scotland’s £15 billion deficit, the collapsed oil price, and the massive subsidy from England that pays for the furlough scheme during the pandemic. And the fact that their deficit is three times higher than the EU permitted maximum for new members. Not to mention the fact that every major Scottish bank and finance company would have to move their registration to London, as Scotland can’t afford to underwrite them as lender of last resort, without the Bank of England’s cash reserves. Scotland will lose their share of all the corporation tax. You never hear Sturgeon admitting the massive financial loss an independent Scotland would face. She just appeals to the lowest instincts of “us and them” nationalist division. I’ve lived in Scotland for the past 45 years and find the rise of nationalist poison sickening,

I know - I don't get the English hatred - it's bad. If we have another referendum can you imagine what it will be like the last one was bad enough.

@annabelindajane

Had a wee look :

4.5 million adults in Scotland 2019/20
2.5 million pay tax
Around 2 million adults or 44.6% will not pay income tax as they earn less than personal allowance .

Scotgov figures

About 300,000 pay the higher rate and 16,000 pay the top rate.

@CountessFrog

Scotland appeals greatly, such a majestic landscape, however rather let down by the appalling anti English sentiment I’ve encountered on holiday there. Have to remind myself not to even consider going back when I start thinking of it.

Have been to Edinburgh several times and found people lovely though, perhaps it’s more cosmopolitan.

I hope they get their independence if it’s what they want. Most English people aren’t bothered. I’ll be glad not to tune into question time and find it’s from Scotland and full of Scottish issues.

Countess, are you aware that Edinburgh is in fact in Scotland? Your whole post is insulting, with some patronising thrown in for good measure.

I am really unsure why so many people here are talking as though Scotland is broke. We're not. We have plenty of resources - natural as well as business /economic, we have industries that any small to medium sized country would be very glad of. We have a decent tax take. You are aware, surely, that we don't get a handout from WM? We hand over ALL of our money, and get a BIT of it back as our budget. We don't have proper borrowing powers. Westminster allocates some of their spending to us and says that's our debt. They spend it on things like defense, that are not devolved, but we also have to pay for UK spending on things like HS2, Heathrow airport runway, London sewers and other such United Kingdom items. Our GDP puts us comfortably in the 'doing quite well' leagues. But to hear you lot going on, Scotland might as well not have an economy at all.

Scotland spends more than it earns. Your post is a fantasy.

Which part isn't true? Just because you've been told it over and over doesn't mean Scotland is incapable of doing well as an independent country. Why shouldn't we do well?

Lots of people will get a big surprise when independence does happen. There's a reason WM doesn't want to let us go, and it's an economic reason.

Oh my god Nyx. Where to start?

We get a bit back as the budget as only a bit of Scotland’s costs are borne by Scotland. A lot of the UK’s costs are for things that cover Scotland too. Like the vaccines. An international aid.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/18675490.deficit-warning-triggers-row-economics-independence-ahead-gers-figures/

The IFS, totally apolitical talking about how screwed Indy Scotland would be. But keep your fingers in your ears and keep singing to yourself if you like.

What one thing have the SNP done to support Scottish Business? I can’t think of anything. They have sat on the millions of pounds the UK gave them to had out to Scottish businesses suffering post Covid, they have put income tax up higher than the rest of the UK to make it harder to attract talent. They have locked down harder and longer with no significantly better Covid figures. They’re a joke.